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gab13by13

(31,728 posts)
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 09:22 AM 4 hrs ago

If Nancy Guthrie's Kidnapper Is Caught

If he confesses he kidnapped her because Savannah interviewed Epstein victims and made Trump look bad, we will never ever hear about that with Kash Patel in charge of the FBI.

Krasnov has wrecked our institutions, it will take generations to recover. When the Republican party turns into the party that protects pedophiles there is no bottom to its depravity. Wishing more Congressional Democrats would speak out like Thomas Massie and Ro Khanna are, then again they would get death threats. I used to think the death threats always came from unwashed Magats but I now believe that the administration has set up a system to issue the death threats themselves, maybe Big Balls is in charge?

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If Nancy Guthrie's Kidnapper Is Caught (Original Post) gab13by13 4 hrs ago OP
Oh, wow. Do you think that's it? I haven't been following closely, but she is such a puzzling choice for a victim. Scrivener7 4 hrs ago #1
I wouldn't bet my golf clubs on it, but gab13by13 3 hrs ago #5
98% convinced planj07 3 hrs ago #2
The interview with the victims was done in 2019. milestogo 3 hrs ago #3
How long ago was it when President Obama gab13by13 3 hrs ago #6
There have been a lot of interviews with victims. milestogo 2 hrs ago #12
He did it because he's sloppy Renew Deal 2 hrs ago #17
?? tintinvotes 3 hrs ago #4
Yes, I forgot about that, gab13by13 3 hrs ago #8
They're talking about "gloves" found in the field that belong to investigators. milestogo 2 hrs ago #13
Yep, very unusual since FBI lab is the best in the world. tintinvotes 2 hrs ago #16
I'll take Greg_In_SF 3 hrs ago #7
Why did the invader spend 41 minutes in the house gab13by13 3 hrs ago #9
We do Greg_In_SF 3 hrs ago #10
So in your opinion gab13by13 3 hrs ago #11
Why would somebody send a ransom message to TMZ? milestogo 2 hrs ago #14
I think it's Greg_In_SF 2 hrs ago #15
You sure are iffing a lot Jilly_in_VA 2 hrs ago #18
At this point I'm desperate for the case to be cracked just so I don't have to hear about it anymore. BannonsLiver 1 hr ago #19

Scrivener7

(58,949 posts)
1. Oh, wow. Do you think that's it? I haven't been following closely, but she is such a puzzling choice for a victim.
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 09:24 AM
4 hrs ago

gab13by13

(31,728 posts)
5. I wouldn't bet my golf clubs on it, but
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 10:02 AM
3 hrs ago

something is off with this investigation.

Either the kidnapper is a moron or a genius. The guy tries to cover up the doorbell camera with flowers from the garden. If those were his black gloves they found that was a dumb move.

Then the kidnapper sends a ransom message so sophisticated it can't be traced.

Put yourself in a journalist's shoes right now, giving an interview to an Epstein victim may get you death threats. Pam Bondi got her orders from Krasnov to wrap things up, all of the Epstein files have been released, so she says.

Thomas Massie has to go public and state that if he ends up dead it will be murder.

2 people are leading the charge to get the Epstein files released; Thomas Massie and Ro Khanna.

I had a taste of death threats in my small town 45 years ago, they caused me many sleepless nights, but I got the town to have my back even when our main local newspaper wouldn't cover our group's protect our watershed meetings. People speaking out in numbers is the way to beat cowards who lurk in the dark. I ran for council and got the most votes, at my 2nd council meeting I looked our solicitor straight in the eye and told him that he needed to recuse himself when the issue of stripping coal on our watershed was discussed, his father owned the company. Every other council member hung his head and said nothing, but it made the newspaper and we ended up putting so many restrictions on the coal strippers that we saved our watershed even though the law was not on our side thanks to Dick Cheney.

I cringe when I hear debates between moderates and progressives, we need fighters, people with courage as Jason Crow just said publicly, I think he was speaking to his fellow members.

planj07

(58 posts)
2. 98% convinced
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 09:50 AM
3 hrs ago

The kidnapping was done by the government. Nothing about it makes sense otherwise. Why did they kidnap her?

Was it meant to serve as a distraction from the files? The media has played along in a number of cases to make it a headline story above the Epstein files.

milestogo

(22,856 posts)
3. The interview with the victims was done in 2019.
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 09:54 AM
3 hrs ago

That's a long time to wait to send a message.

gab13by13

(31,728 posts)
6. How long ago was it when President Obama
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 10:07 AM
3 hrs ago

publicly humiliated Krasnov at the correspondence dinner? Krasnov hasn't gotten over that yet, look what he just did to Obama.

milestogo

(22,856 posts)
12. There have been a lot of interviews with victims.
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 10:51 AM
2 hrs ago

I think the idea that he is going to attack the families of journalists is a stretch. TSF tends to do things in public, not in private.

Renew Deal

(84,800 posts)
17. He did it because he's sloppy
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 11:22 AM
2 hrs ago

I'm not convinced he saw the entire video. His response indicates he didn't. But he can't admit not seeing the entire thing and he can't admit that he did see it. Either he's careless or he's racist. We know it's both.

tintinvotes

(132 posts)
4. ??
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 10:02 AM
3 hrs ago

A couple of days ago I read that the Sheriff refused to turn over evidence to the FBI (the glove) and had it sent to a private lab.

gab13by13

(31,728 posts)
8. Yes, I forgot about that,
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 10:10 AM
3 hrs ago

Maybe he doesn't trust the FBI's lab? That is very much out of the ordinary isn't it?

Right wing Krasnov fluffers have been attacking the sheriff for doing that, FOX even put a retired FBI agent on to call it too time consuming.

milestogo

(22,856 posts)
13. They're talking about "gloves" found in the field that belong to investigators.
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 10:52 AM
2 hrs ago

So the FBI just throws their gloves on the ground?

gab13by13

(31,728 posts)
11. So in your opinion
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 10:39 AM
3 hrs ago

the ransom message is a fake? If it was intended to be a kidnapping why would the perp spend 41 minutes inside the house?

What does make sense?

milestogo

(22,856 posts)
14. Why would somebody send a ransom message to TMZ?
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 10:55 AM
2 hrs ago

They could have left one in the home.

Greg_In_SF

(1,042 posts)
15. I think it's
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 10:59 AM
2 hrs ago

highly possible that the ransom note was either an after thought, or that it didn't even come from the suspect.

I think it was a home invasion that later turned in to a kidnapping after things went south, hence the long time period spent in the house. He could have just been trying to figure out his next steps when his original plan fell through.

Jilly_in_VA

(14,145 posts)
18. You sure are iffing a lot
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 11:30 AM
2 hrs ago

I think it's more likely that someone screwed up a an armed robbery/home invasion (they like to call it that nowadays), panicked, took her, probably killed her either on purpose or accidentally, and is now hiding out somewhere scared to death. Occam's razor.

BannonsLiver

(20,321 posts)
19. At this point I'm desperate for the case to be cracked just so I don't have to hear about it anymore.
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 12:11 PM
1 hr ago
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