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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat if the anti-abortion movement
was actually created to keep the supply of "disposable children" going into the pedo pipeline? I went down the rabbit hole this morning watching a YT video of a woman from Belgium who was trafficked during the late 60's and early 70's. She was considered a "disposable child" because she was born out of wedlock, and her mother eventually married the mayor of their small town. She was sold by her mother into a Belgian pedo ring.
What if the people who were funding the "unwed mother homes" during the 60's realized that the growth of birth control and abortion were going to limit the supply of disposable children? So, they work with the religious right to start this movement to prevent women from controlling when they bore children? I mean, it's a nightmare scenario, but plausible.
2naSalit
(101,313 posts)What happens to all those babies given up for adoption where the birth mother has no contact? And refugees and all those kids taken from their parents/guardians at the border, there quite a list of possibilities.
Deep State Witch
(12,670 posts)That's what I was wondering, too.
2naSalit
(101,313 posts)Those children who are orphaned, or not, during natural disasters where 'church' groups go and swoop them up. Some were caught trafficking them back when Puerto Rico had the hurricane devastation.
Norrrm
(4,486 posts)Religious schools/orphanages where the children were molested.
Unwed mother homes (again church run) where the mothers and children were abused and worse.
Politicians who did not care about abortion until an anti-abortion stance could bring in more votes.
Your theory might be a little far-fetched but not that far.
cbabe
(6,461 posts)'Oranges And Sunshine,' But Both Of Them Lies
OCTOBER 20, 20116:06 PM ET
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Jeannette Catsoulis
If anyone could be expected to stake out the angels' side of a social issue, it would be a son of Ken Loach, so it's no surprise that Jim Loach's first feature tackles one of the biggest social scandals of the past century. Oranges and Sunshine, based on the 1994 book Empty Cradles by Nottingham social worker Margaret Humphreys, deals with the fallout from the forced and largely secret migration of English children to Australia beginning in the 17th century and lasting, astonishingly, until the 1970s.
All in all, a staggering 130,000 children were shipped to the back of beyond, most of them working-class kids whose young, single mothers were told that they had been adopted by "better" families. (The children, many as young as 4, were told they were orphans.) But instead of the oranges and sunshine they were promised, many encountered horrific abuse and deprivation, mostly at the hands of youth-oriented Catholic ministries like the Christian Brothers.
"We built stations of the cross," says one traumatized survivor. "But who was crucified?" We'd all like to know the answer to that one.
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synni
(721 posts)valleyrogue
(2,641 posts)was less abortion and contraception as it was those young women were choosing to keep their babies. This began to be more and more common in the late 1960s and early 1970s even before Roe v. Wade and Eisenstadt v. Baird.
There is no turning back the clock--ever.
Currently, 40 percent of all babies born in the US are born to unmarried women or cohabiting couples. The adoption industry has to make do with a dwindling supply.
canetoad
(20,471 posts)I immediately thought of Marc Dutroux, the Belgian killer, rapist and pedophile who is apparently still imprisoned in solitary confinement, which is far too good for him. He was caught in 1996 so you may heve heard of him. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Dutroux.
I don't think the premise of a constant supply of young girls is too far fetched. Maybe it's conscious, maybe not; just a lizard brain reaction to their own needs.
Deep State Witch
(12,670 posts)Sounds like she was sold into the same circles, but her experience was more in the early 70's.
jmowreader
(53,014 posts)However, it's very likely that the anti-abortion movement and the private adoption industry are conjoined.
SheltieLover
(78,674 posts)cbabe
(6,461 posts)the last 60 years, over a million "orphans have been adopted by Western families. Many of them are now discovering that their past is a lie. International adoptions are at the center of an unprecedented scandal.
This scandal is far-reaching. It involves children stolen from their mothers during the Pinochet dictatorship, as well as people described as Africa's "fake orphans. The film follows investigative journalists, activists and researchers in South Korea, Sweden, France, Chile, Germany and Switzerland. How was this huge, lucrative market able to flourish? And why does it still exist today?
Even today, women are manipulated, threatened or deceived into giving up their babies - often with the blessing of state authorities. The fraudulent practices persist despite the Hague Convention, which has governed international adoption since 1993. That is because the system is flawed and encourages corruption.
In many cases, these practices come to light mainly due to pressure from adopted children who have grown into adults. After discovering the dubious conditions of their adoptions, they begin to search for their birth parents and demand explanations. These searches are often easier to conduct these days, thanks to social media, the Internet and the availability of genealogy websites.
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