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Then, multiply it by 100. That is what we have with the Epstein files, in my opinion.
The center of the corruption and sex rings are in Russia and the Ukraine area, imo.
The Russian Mafia is real. The American Mafia is a gnat compared to those that work with Putin and the oligarchs.
Every nation has their "incorrigibles" and they will always be with us. Trump and Epstein are two of America's most incorrigibles. They follow money and power. Sex is their reward for their risks.
In my opinion, these wealthy power brokers and oligarchs saw weakness in the nations that they were operating in and made the decision to tear them down. They saw democracy at a weak point and took advantage. That is why Russia became involved in our 2016 election, in my opinion.
Epstein may have been a "double agent", for Israel and Russia? He may have been a "triple agent", but I think he was only using Trump and America primarily for Russia's benefit. He used Israel to give himself legitimacy thru his relationship with Robert Maxwell, in my opinion.
He reported to Putin on Trump's vulnerabilities. Putin has controlled Trump for decades, in my opinion. And from what we have seen since he took the White House in 2016, he has done nothing to disprove that theory.
The bigger part of the conspiracy was to control the world's currency. Control the currency and you could control the politics. In my opinion, they are halfway to fruition on this part of their "plan" with all the Bitcoins and digital currencies that are challenging the US Dollar. In my opinion, that is why Trump is attacking the Federal Reserve and its Chairman.
The child sex rings were just a part of the huge operation of this international gang of criminals. Putin is the Godfather, not Trump. But Trump wants to be the King of the World.
Baitball Blogger
(51,880 posts)the white male power structure that is responsible for undermining our criminal justice system and poisoning our society will be exposed and destroyed.
Wounded Bear
(63,962 posts)is an onrushing train.
Kid Berwyn
(23,574 posts)We shoulda gone after them from Day 1 -- and thrown the book at the orange traitor and not stopped until he was in jail, ruined by hard labor, broke of every last penny, and returned to his natural state of bald.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214598494
We can still speed it along.
yellow dahlia
(5,138 posts)A compromised and complicit Congress has been crucial for the evil plans.
OC375
(531 posts)No secrets, no power. Release the files.
kentuck
(115,264 posts)...at hiding his secrets?
OC375
(531 posts)Thus far...
Tesha
(21,110 posts)homegirl
(1,937 posts)read:
AMERIKAN KOMPROMAY by Craig Unger
PatSeg
(52,513 posts)Though I still don't expect to see JFK Jr. in Dallas anytime soon.
That said, this is all so surreal and I get the feeling there is far more than what we're seeing and hearing.
You know, maybe that was the point of all the Qanon wild theories. So that when rational people hear these stories in the Epstein files, they might think they are just more crazy conspiracy theories or worse, become immune to it all.
cate94
(3,056 posts)Putin got involved with the 2016 election because he wants to break up the U.S. because we broke up the Soviet Union, in my opinion.
31st Street Bridge
(126 posts)... when it wasn't and 2024 WAS.
kentuck
(115,264 posts)It has been documented that his dream is to unite the old Soviet Union back to where it was before it collapsed and it is a revenge motive to destroy all the democracies he can.
alittlelark
(19,102 posts)That is now in the public domain.
Amaryllis
(11,088 posts)Javaman
(65,375 posts)it comes out in drips and drabs but at the end of the day this is so far reaching and affecting so many rich fucks, that they way they are trying to cover it up is by doing the obvious: release the salacious details of well known people to distract the prols and keep us divided.
no one single major donor (to the RNC or the DNC) will ever be named. and that's the very heart of all of this.
leftstreet
(39,410 posts)Or, did all these rich pedos suddenly get cured?
yardwork
(69,074 posts)Trump himself was at the center of it.
rubbersole
(11,093 posts)...and they're throwing their deteriorating asset djt to the clickbait starved American media. The collateral damage to a few horney old perverts is just a distracting bonus.
Joinfortmill
(20,440 posts)leftstreet
(39,410 posts)yep definitely
Exp
(814 posts)communications are compromised.
You can bet Putin has the same info rec'd from Epstein in trade for more and more young Russian women to blackmail powerful men.
Follow the money: Epstein's bank account deposits of blackmail gains.
This is a National Security matter.
I just spent much of the morning call Dem and GOP Reps in the House telling them that this IS a National Security issue.
https://www.house.gov/representatives
cally
(21,837 posts)over and over. (Me, too, Womens Gymnastics, Sex trafficking). They are all complicit.
I am terrified and scared at how far reaching this is and also wonder who took over the operation. I believe it continues.
yardwork
(69,074 posts)I've suspected this for a long time but now I'm sure.
Children and babies separated from their families by ICE are being sold into unimaginable horrors.
I also suspect that some of the young men and women supposedly deported by ICE may be sold to organ harvesters. No proof but if we survive all this a new DOJ needs to look into it.
mdbl
(8,251 posts)These are truly disgusting people.
3825-87867
(1,823 posts)While it's nice to see the "light", the real problem is the length of that tunnel!
BurnDoubt
(1,575 posts)Pin anything on anybody in the Cabal with mountains of evidence, but a hint-of-a-notion-of-an-inkling is enough to issue a warrant for Brown people, or anyone "committing Journalism".
There are more criminals and threats to our Republic sitting around the table in the Cabinet than there are running loose in your town.
Why don't we hear more about all the "Worst People" being rounded up?
Joinfortmill
(20,440 posts)H2O Man
(78,846 posts)I will suggest that it is an error to think that Putin/Russia played a top role in the Epstein sex operations. Epstein was primarily funded initially by five billionaires, all connected closely to the intelligence agency of a Middle Eastern country. Thus, when we view the sweetheart deal Epstein got in Florida, there was no Russian involvement. It was due to Epstein's role with that foreign intelligence agency.
After the Florida case, Epstein, the French scumbag, and the felon did get females -- including underage girls -- with offers per modeling and beauty contests from Eastern Europe. This was the front for the sex operation, and then for laundering money for a variety of sources, including Russians.
kentuck
(115,264 posts)I would be more inclined to believe that Donald Trump helped Epstein procure young "models" than anyone, thru his beauty pageants and Mar-a-Lago spa, etc. After he married Melania, I could see him cutting back on his events with Epstein, since Epstein reportedly introduced Melania to Donald.