This sounds like a good plan if Trump invades Greenland.

[Swede]

[CaliforniaPeggy]

1. This sounds pretty dire. It would be much better than a shooting war . . .

between us and NATO.

Scary nonetheless.

[Ars Longa]

25. Democrats run to repair all this!! If it is possible!!

[TBF]

42. OK, why don't you explain to us how "democrats run to repair all this!!" -

when Trump has a complete majority in House & Senate - and has the Supreme Court. You tell me how this is the democrats fault and how (and why) it is their job.

[Jack Valentino]

50. It's the job of Democrats because we are ALL that anyone has!!!!

[Shipwack]

49. Yes, they will, however....

We have shown the world that one branch of the government can behave lawlessly and the other two won’t stop him.

Even if we are able to go back to the status quo, we will still not be trusted. The Democrats can’t stay in power indefinitely. The next Republicans in power might do the whole thing all over again.

It’ll take decades (if ever) before we are trusted enough to have a major influence on the world stage again.

[LuckyCharms]

2. His goal is to use Greenland as a proxy to dissolve NATO. That's his intent.

Dissolve NATO with spinnable deniability as to that was his intent all along.

He's doing Putin's bidding.

[FakeNoose]

5. Actually that's Putin's goal ... Chump is just the useful idiot who's doing his dirty work

Needless to say, no American can sit by and allow this to happen.

[LuckyCharms]

9. Yes, that's what I meant when I said he was doing Putin's bidding.

And he's spinning it like it is because of US security interest.

He wants to dissolve NATO because his boss told him to.

And MAGA will hail him as a hero.

[orangecrush]

20. This

[dweller]

3. . . .

😐



✌🏻

[IcyPeas]

10. I hope that was don junior.

[thought crime]

22. If it was JD Vance the Polar Bear would choke and die

[Beartracks]

28. It can't be Vance. There's a spine. n/t

[Efilroft Sul]

32. Cocaine Polar Bear

[RockRaven]

4. All of those things are what America deserves for electing this piece of shit.

American voters chose, repeatedly, to destroy the US.

[LudwigPastorius]

6. Harsh, but fair.

Just ask the Germans about the consequences of putting Nazis in charge of your country.

[FakeNoose]

7. I'm an American in my 70s and I've never voted R in my life

Please don't lump us all together.

[Dave says]

11. Never voted R, never will

[thought crime]

24. Same here but the ship is going down and we're all on it.

[ananda]

34. Same

If a Dem wasn't on the ballot, I'd vote
Green before any Republican...

or not vote if there was only a R.

[Bluestocking]

38. I'm 60 and have only voted for Democrats.

Will never vote for anything else.

[calimary]

44. Same here.

For me it starts with the GOP’s infernal intentions to deny women our rights. To push us back into mere breeder status as our rights are taken away one by one.

I’ve always voted Dem.

[Joinfortmill]

54. He didn't win. Someday we'll learn how they cheated.

[yellow dahlia]

56. Truth.

[Patton French]

55. You're wishing those things on the 75+ million of us who voted for Kamala Harris?

No.

[RockRaven]

57. What has wishing got to do with anything?

What is coming for America is what Americans hath wrought.

That's got nothing to do with what I wish.

[Dan]

8. and the additional benefit would be

Trump would be impeached and convicted...

MAGA couldn't stop it - because this type of hurt would impact the "thinking parts" of America.

[Fil1957]

12. If DJT is made to believe that would happen if he invaded, he might change his mind, only because of losing the

Olympics and World Cup.

He could give a rat's ass about the other stuff.

[thought crime]

27. Macron needs to step up and provide nuclear deterrence.

[flashman13]

13. I believe everything in this post and much more will come to pass if Trump attacks Greenland.

Feel free to call me naive. The U.S. military will not let Trump destroy NATO. We have spent the last 80 years creating and nurturing NATO as much to shield us as to protect western Europe. The military is made up of a very large number of smart well educated people. They understand the consequences better than anyone. They would refuse to carry out an insane order to attack Greenland and in turn our allies.

I sure as hell don't want to test my theory.

[BComplex]

16. Yeah. Because the counter point powers that be have been so good about stopping him

so far? No. The powers that be are not stopping this, because in America, the supreme court is like the Pope to us: nobody tells their lawlessness to go take a hike, and the republican supremes are the ones allowing ALL of what is happening to us.

[flashman13]

45. I just want to mention that the military doesn't have to do anything that it doesn't want to do.

It has all the real guns. The military is always the power behind the throne. Historically, when they withdraw their support, the government falls and flees. We are so far out into uncharted waters anything is possible. I stand by my statement, the U.S. military will not destroy NATO.

[thought crime]

31. Use of the military could be a bluff.

But Trump's threats are already a Military Assault. He is taking Greenland at the point of a gun. Assault with a deadly weapon.

If his "negotiation" fails, the US Military could take over Nuuk in less than an hour. He would then announce that Greenland has been annexed. That's the kind of military action Trump likes.

[flashman13]

46. Of course they could take Nuuk in an hour. Then we are at war with NATO and Europe.

The consequences would be catastrophic. See Swede's opening post.

I stand by my statement, the U.S. military will not destroy NATO.

[rampartd]

43. the us military , like any roman legion or janissary army

protects the peace of he who pays them.

[flashman13]

47. If the military shows up at the Treasury and instructs the workers inside to issue paychecks, they will issue checks.

Of course that's a coup which will be staged in defense of the Constitution, NATO and world stability. That is how dangerous Trump is. He doesn't have to nuke the world to crash it. His insatiable thirst for power can crash everything with one intemperate move if the military lets him have his way. We just saw during the Covid pandemic how delicate world stability really is. Also remember it is only American power, coupled with NATO and our Asian allies, that keeps China and Russia from running amok.

I guarantee that if it comes to a choice between Trump's crazy shit or stability under the military, the bankers are going to back the military. I know that sounds beyond crazy. But that is how close we really are to the edge of chaos.

[rampartd]

48. i have been thinking that a decent general or junta would be preferable to this

we are going to need years to establish a stable democracy after this crazy shit.

[flashman13]

59. Actually I'm somewhat optimistic there. I think we could reestablish a functioning democratic government fairly quickly.

But it will take a generation at least to reestablish trust in the government by the people or trust in the U.S.A. by the world. And then only if post Trump America puts the needs of the many ahead of the greed of the few.

[LudwigPastorius]

60. "They would refuse to carry out an insane order to attack..."

I'm not very confident of that.

Trump and Hegseth's generals just invaded and kidnapped the head of state of a sovereign nation - a clearly illegal act initiated by clearly illegal orders.

[Jarqui]

14. There would be fallout from that plan

If the US economy collapses - the whole world economy collapses. That will topple other governments

Russia and China would have to see this as an opportunity. US bases close, Russia can grab more real estate.
Is Trump going to save Taiwan? He'll have too many other problems.

It would be a very unstable situation. The major military powers in the world may see it as an opportunity to grab countries from the vacuum that was NATO.

Very dangerous situation with Trump itching to fire some nukes at someone.

[Swede]

17. That's what happens when you start a war.

nt

[IronLionZion]

15. Putin loves this plan

It would take a long time to rebuild that trust. Like Germany after WW2.

[thought crime]

33. Spot on.

It is already going to take generation to recover from the damage Trump has caused.

[oldmanlynn]

18. What we really need is

We need the entire world shunning Maga. We need to let Europe and these other countries know that this is just a temporary nasty. Spell brought on by Maga Republicans.

[SSJVegeta]

19. Not so much a plan as pure facts

[VMA131Marine]

21. Trump is so stupid ...

that even if he understands all the bad things that will happen if he tries to annex Greenland he’s likely to still do it anyway.

[Mme. Defarge]

23. Any time

is TACO TIME. . .

[aggiesal]

26. Rumor in the White House says that they will not call it Greenland ...

instead it will be called RedWhite&Blueland.
I'm betting he'll call it the State of Trumpland.
🤣😂🤣

[thought crime]

36. We need to make sure Greenlanders understand this.

They may not like their association with Greenland, but if the US takes over they are done.

[Beartracks]

29. And Putin laughs and laughs and laughs.

[thought crime]

37. And Xi probably hopes and hopes and hopes.

Hopes Trump provides an perfect example for China to justify a take over of Taiwan "for national security purposes".

[Brotherhood_Knight]

30. Yea

Europe halt all buying of US bonds. Total Sanctions on the US; even join China in a massive sanction plan against the US

Europe needs to take this very seriously. It all needs to be ready to go on the same day Trump tries this.

I am no longer a supporter of the US in any way moving forward after this. Trump will have killed my beloved USA.

[LymphocyteLover]

35. Our local paper had a piece this morning claiming that Greenland really wants to break away from Denmark and is willing

to make a "deal" with the US. Sounds like some fine MAGA BS but it's truly gross that they are normalizing this fucking bullshit.

[NJCher]

39. did they state

why they wanted to break away from Denmark?

[dem4decades]

53. Your local paper sounds like the right-wing rag near us. I canceled it after years of being a subscriber.

People talk about supporting local press but not when they're just like the NY Post.

[Bluestocking]

40. I think because the repugs don't want to lose the maggot vote

Rather than impeachment or 25th amendment I think Rump will just die. The repugs will have him terminated permanently.

[Bluestocking]

41. NATO cannot just let this go

It is not like Venezuela, Cuba, Iran or North Korea. Doing nothing would be worse for everyone.

[leanforward]

51. Exit from NATO is a global depression

NATO is an economic generator “free trade”.
Trade has already been disrupted. Along with our business of our government.
What is our national deficit? It seems Republican leaders lean away from balancing the budget. And, take away from “we the people” and give it to the rich. And there goes the nation debt service payment.

[OC375]

52. If you're a billionaire, all that can be planned for

Doesn’t guarantee you’re going to get away, but you’ll have a head start… To some, that’s called “acceptable terms”, unfortunately.

[The Revolution]

58. I think they should give us a chance to impeach

And remove him. Should have already been done, obviously, but maybe this would actually be too far.