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FadedMullet

(641 posts)
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 07:36 PM 13 hrs ago

Call me "Pollyanna" but I see an upside to the "Ice" immigration raids and attempts at sending in the......

......National Guard to protect them. I love the fact that regular people are confronting the agents and protecting and hiding the immigrants and, maybe even more surprising, some states are fighting back and even passing laws to stop the roundups and police force cooperation. This gives lie to the fiction that Trump encourages that we all want these folks to kicked out as they are all "rapists and murderers".

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mucifer

(25,501 posts)
1. Supreme court said today the national guard can't come to Chicago . But, will they ignore them?
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 07:39 PM
13 hrs ago

mr715

(2,598 posts)
2. Small silver lining is resistance
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 07:51 PM
13 hrs ago

I wish it were more pointed, organized, and proactive. But I guess the reason why we "feel" the fight when people stand up to ICE is because these are people that would otherwise be minding their own business.

I don't see any upside to ICE/Homeland Security being loosed on the American people exactly as many people knew it would, ultimately, when it was consolidated after 9/11.

There are many good people in the US, but there are many wretched people as well. Deplorable people, if you will.

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,166 posts)
3. Meanwhile, thousands of people have had their lives destroyed. Organizing is always valuable but "upside" is not
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 07:58 PM
12 hrs ago

necessarily the term I would use.

FadedMullet

(641 posts)
6. You're right about "upside". I meant to go on to say that the realization that there was more support for immigrants....
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 11:24 PM
9 hrs ago

......here than I would have guessed was, to me at least, an upside. And that this support was not organized, but organic, coming from the neighborhoods.

Ms. Toad

(38,093 posts)
4. Meanwhile, the cost of this policy is borne by those who can least afford it.
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 07:59 PM
12 hrs ago

Poor, racial minorities, those who lack access to social resources to assist them once they are kidnapped. Hard to see a wake-up call that most people won't even notice as an upside.

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