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Kid Berwyn

(22,723 posts)
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 03:19 PM 18 hrs ago

Trump 'authorized' Epstein's death, brother told FBI

"It's not personal, Sonny. It's strictly business."



Bombshell report reveals Epstein’s brother told FBI Trump 'authorized' his death

by Sarah K. Burris
Alternet.org, December 23, 2025

The documents in relation to the investigation of sex offender Jeffrey Epstein are slowly being released by the Department of Justice. One of those documents is the bombshell revelation that Epstein's brother, Mark, believed President Donald Trump "authorized" the death.

Mark Epstein met with the FBI in 2023 and told them that his brother was about to start revealing names of the men who knew about his trafficking, The Miami Herald reported on Tuesday.

The tip sent to the FBI came in on February 22, 2023.

“Jeffrey Epstein was murdered in his jail cell,” it reads. “I have reason to believe he was killed because he was about to name names. I believe Presient [sic] Trump authorized is [sic] murder.”

The documents detailing whether Mark Epstein spoke directly with the FBI haven't been uncovered yet.

Source w. links: https://www.alternet.org/msn-uk/trump-epstein-2674825370/

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Trump 'authorized' Epstein's death, brother told FBI (Original Post) Kid Berwyn 18 hrs ago OP
Recommended. H2O Man 18 hrs ago #1
Hey H2O Man. Are you getting snow? Easterncedar 18 hrs ago #3
Yes. H2O Man 18 hrs ago #4
Don't have a clue where you are Katcat 11 hrs ago #41
Bill Barr authorized psycho killer cop as Epstein's first cell mate. Kid Berwyn 18 hrs ago #9
Right. H2O Man 18 hrs ago #11
Small world! Steve Witkoff on the payroll of the Russian mob, too. Kid Berwyn 17 hrs ago #16
Small world. H2O Man 17 hrs ago #22
Which Watergate documentaries would you recommend? electric_blue68 13 hrs ago #38
This is worthy of markodochartaigh 16 hrs ago #29
Thanks for the article, Kid. yellow dahlia 15 hrs ago #32
"No collusion! No collusion!" Beartracks 8 hrs ago #47
He was Epstein's last cell mate. Wiz Imp 17 hrs ago #23
I can understand why people may be struggling to believe that account... Trueblue Texan 11 hrs ago #44
Who would be surprised by this? Easterncedar 18 hrs ago #2
Certainly Not Putin. Kid Berwyn 18 hrs ago #10
Or maybe "Lavrovage." 3catwoman3 17 hrs ago #18
And there is more...of course. yellow dahlia 15 hrs ago #33
With friends like Trump... milestogo 18 hrs ago #5
"What if I pushed her down the stairs?" Kid Berwyn 17 hrs ago #15
Way off course but BOSSHOG 16 hrs ago #28
Michael Wolff had better be careful with the Epstein stories FakeNoose 16 hrs ago #30
Of course he did. B.See 18 hrs ago #6
Epstein had yet to be convicted. Kid Berwyn 47 min ago #48
Meh malaise 18 hrs ago #7
Is there a better way to keep the rich and politicians in line? Kid Berwyn 43 min ago #49
Oh my! malaise 31 min ago #50
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise 18 hrs ago #8
With in 24 hours of Epstein speaking of Trump using his plane and Epstein using Trump's plane he was dead Botany 18 hrs ago #12
Duh.... PCIntern 17 hrs ago #13
The Trotskyites cover this story better than Corporate McPravda. Kid Berwyn 6 min ago #52
Easy to believe. lamp_shade 17 hrs ago #14
According to Wikipedia Epstein "died in his jail cell on August 10, 2019." KS Toronado 17 hrs ago #17
I didn't know this until recently canetoad 17 hrs ago #19
Alex Acosta would know whether it was Chump who dropped a dime on Epstein FakeNoose 16 hrs ago #31
I've thought about that canetoad 15 hrs ago #34
I hope Epstein's brother has hired some good bodyguards. TheRickles 17 hrs ago #20
KRASNOV's mob/cartel m.o. is to ditch anybody threatening or not useful anymore & take vengeance on the rest. UTUSN 17 hrs ago #21
I have always been suspicious of the power blackout Mme. Defarge 17 hrs ago #24
While I always found his death suspicious fujiyamasan 16 hrs ago #25
this could be big. barbtries 16 hrs ago #26
Bill Barr indeed knows way more than he's saying FakeNoose 14 hrs ago #35
Epstein / Barr connection Mime 11 hrs ago #43
there ya go. barbtries 11 hrs ago #45
I've always thought THIS stuff is what they're really hiding Cheezoholic 16 hrs ago #27
Well! If that is what Epstein's brother believes.... reACTIONary 14 hrs ago #36
Not exactly proof of anything tho. mucifer 14 hrs ago #37
Jesus...what a way to live. Totally Tunsie 13 hrs ago #39
Not the only one either, I suspect. Joinfortmill 13 hrs ago #40
Kick dalton99a 11 hrs ago #42
Nahhhhh. He died from Epstein-Barr virus. usonian 10 hrs ago #46
Even Maxwell claimed J Epstein..... Lovie777 20 min ago #51
Trump wouldn't have directly authorized killing Epstein. He may have said to one doc03 5 min ago #53
I have thought this also. Trump is desperateand has been desperate for several years. OLDMDDEM 5 min ago #54

H2O Man

(78,504 posts)
4. Yes.
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 03:27 PM
18 hrs ago

I was just watching five deer enjoying a meal out on my lawn. I don't have bird-feeders, so I just pour a pile of food out there. It has been a cold December, and I try to make sure there is food enough for everyone.

Kid Berwyn

(22,723 posts)
9. Bill Barr authorized psycho killer cop as Epstein's first cell mate.
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 03:40 PM
18 hrs ago
Nicholas Tartaglione, Jeffrey Epstein’s first cellmate, is a hulking ex-cop-cum drug dealer then-charged, now convicted, quadruple murderer. For some reason no one in authority found confusing, Epstein said he didn't appreciate it when he woke up to find the killer ex-cop's muscle-y hands around his neck.



To be fair, Tartaglione denied making the marks on Epstein’s neck when the presidents’ friend was found unresponsive in his cell the first time. Barr’s DoJ was surprised to hear the news and moved Tartaglione to another cell.

Perhaps this under-reported story is why many today think Epstein tried to kill himself.

https://yonkerstimes.com/dirty-westchester-ex-cop-is-epsteins-cell-mate/

The assignment of a violent psychopath as a cell-mate makes one wonder if Barr really had Epstein’s safety in mind. Otherwise, somebodies high up in the MAGANAZIGOP might have wanted to shut Epstein up permanently before there had been a trial, let alone a conviction.

Recently, Tartaglione told Rupert Murdoch’s New York Post that Epstein confided in him that the Feds offered Epstein a deal in exchange for dirt on Donnie Dipshit. Tartaglione added that Epstein told the Feds he barely knew Trump, that they didn’t like each other, but Dipshit was nice to females, and that he knew nothing about Trump’s politics. Right-o.

https://nypost.com/2025/01/18/us-news/feds-offered-jeffrey-epstein-a-deal-for-dirt-on-trump-ex-cellmate/

PS: Might've been Epstein's last cell mate, too.


H2O Man

(78,504 posts)
11. Right.
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 03:47 PM
18 hrs ago

This fellow was on the payroll of the local Russian mob. He had an assignment.

Kid Berwyn

(22,723 posts)
16. Small world! Steve Witkoff on the payroll of the Russian mob, too.
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 04:08 PM
17 hrs ago
Who Is Steve Witkoff, and Why Is He in Charge of Negotiating Ukraine’s Future?

by Craig Unger
WhoWhatWhy.org, November 26, 2025

Excerpt...

But at least one chapter of Witkoff’s life has not been explored by the mainstream media — namely his ties to the Russian Mafia. In 2013, The Real Deal, a trade publication that covers the real estate industry, reported that Witkoff submitted a recommendation for indicted Russian mobster Anatoly Golubchik several years earlier when Golubchik applied to live in a condominium building at 971 Madison Avenue.

The recommendation is of special interest because, according to indictments in the US District Court for the Southern District of New York, Golubchik played a key role in a high-stakes gambling ring based out of Trump Tower. According to Poker News, a trade publication for the gaming industry, the poker game was often attended by a glitzy clientele that included Hollywood actors Leonardo DiCaprio, Ben Affleck, and Matt Damon. (The story behind it was later made into a movie called Molly’s Game, starring Jessica Chastain and Idris Elba.)

The gambling ring was busted in April 2013, when “police burst into an apartment on the sixty-third floor of Trump Tower on Fifth Avenue, just three floors below Donald Trump’s penthouse.”

With its 24-karat-gold faucets, alabaster walls crafted by Portuguese artisans, and $350,000 bathroom floor made of amethyst imported from Tanzania, the apartment was one of the most ostentatious apartments in what was already one of the most ostentatious buildings in America.



Semion Mogilevich, FBI, wanted poster

More importantly, it was also populated by a number of colleagues of mobster Semion Mogilevich. A multibillionaire mafioso known as the Brainy Don, Mogilevich was one of the most powerful figures in the Russian Mafia and a one-time denizen of the FBI’s Ten Most Wanted List. He ran drug trafficking and prostitution rings on an international scale; in one characteristic deal, he bought a bankrupt airline to ship heroin from Southeast Asia into Europe. He used a jewelry business in Moscow and Budapest as a front for art that Russian gangsters stole from museums, churches, and synagogues all over Europe. He has also been accused of selling some $20 million in stolen weapons, including ground-to-air missiles and armored troop carriers, to Iran. “He uses this wealth and power to not only further his criminal enterprises,” the FBI says, “but to influence governments and their economies.”

Snip...

Now that Witkoff has come up with a “peace plan” that gives Putin everything he wants, his ties to the Russian Mafia are of particular interest because, in Russia, the Mafia has long been a de facto state actor serving the FSB, the state security service that is the successor to the feared KGB.

Continues...

https://whowhatwhy.org/international/who-is-steve-witkoff-and-why-is-he-in-charge-of-negotiating-ukraines-future/

The pros likely have this all on tape for Putin, ready for public release as needed for blackmail, etc etc etc. It's just another coincidence, I'm sure.

H2O Man

(78,504 posts)
22. Small world.
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 04:47 PM
17 hrs ago

I watched a few Watergate documentaries last night. Always a holiday favorite! And thinking of how long the White House was able to stall and cover up. We are seeing something very similar, though on a grander scale.

Trueblue Texan

(4,155 posts)
44. I can understand why people may be struggling to believe that account...
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 10:37 PM
11 hrs ago

It says Epstein didn't appreciate waking up to find Tartaglione's hands around his neck, then later it says Tartaglione denied making the mark on Epstein's neck when he was found unresponsive in his cell the first time.

Does this mean Epstein may have been assaulted by Tartaglione more than once before they moved him to another cell? Otherwise, it's not really a believable account.

Kid Berwyn

(22,723 posts)
10. Certainly Not Putin.
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 03:43 PM
18 hrs ago
Jeffrey Epstein claimed he gave Russians insight into Trump

Newly released emails show the late convicted sex offender’s extensive network of foreign contacts, whom he corresponded with about Trump’s policy decisions.


By KYLE CHENEY and NAHAL TOOSI
Politico, 11/12/2025

Nearly a month before President Donald Trump met Russian leader Vladimir Putin in Helsinki in 2018, Jeffrey Epstein attempted to pass a message to Russia’s top diplomat: If you want to understand Trump, talk to me.

“I think you might suggest to putin that lavrov can get insight on talking to me,” Epstein wrote in a June 24, 2018, email to Thorbjorn Jagland, a former prime minister of Norway who was leading the Council of Europe at the time of the exchange. Lavrov was an apparent reference to Sergei Lavrov, Russia’s longtime foreign minister.

In the email exchange, one of hundreds released Wednesday by congressional investigators, Epstein indicated he had previously talked about Trump with Vitaly Churkin, Russia’s forceful ambassador to the United Nations, before Churkin died in 2017.

“Churkin was great,” Epstein, the late convicted sex offender, wrote. “He understood trump after our conversations. it is not complex. he must be seen to get something its that simple.”

Continues…

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/12/jeffrey-epstein-donald-trump-russia-emails-00648919



Above, Lavrov in the Oval Office. “You call it 'Leverage.' We call it, 'Blackmail.' Whatever. It works.”

Kid Berwyn

(22,723 posts)
15. "What if I pushed her down the stairs?"
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 04:04 PM
17 hrs ago

Michael Wolff says Trump talked to Epstein about MURDERING HIS WIFE IVANA after finding out Marla Maples was pregnant:

"Trump said, 'what if I pushed her down the stairs?'"

BOSSHOG

(44,601 posts)
28. Way off course but
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 05:35 PM
16 hrs ago

I’m reminded of a line from the maid in Paper Moon talking to Tatum O’Neal. “once I tried to push her out a window in a Little Rock.”

FakeNoose

(40,001 posts)
30. Michael Wolff had better be careful with the Epstein stories
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 05:45 PM
16 hrs ago

... or Michael himself may get pushed down the stairs. I hope it doesn't happen, but he has put the word out that he has a shit-ton of interview material on Epstein, going back many years. I'm sure he'll do a book on Epstein, but he might be waiting until Chump has his meeting with the Grim Reaper.

Kid Berwyn

(22,723 posts)
48. Epstein had yet to be convicted.
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 09:08 AM
47 min ago

There was no “reason” for him to take his own life. Had he been convicted and sentenced to life behind bars, then a suicide is understandable.

We’ll never get his testimony or hear his side of story on the reasons why DOJ redacted the names of strong, powerful, prominent and rich men would have been mentioned at his trial.

Kid Berwyn

(22,723 posts)
49. Is there a better way to keep the rich and politicians in line?
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 09:12 AM
43 min ago


Leaked Emails Reveal Jeffrey Epstein's Connections to the Surveillance Industry

by Matthew Petti
Reason, Wed, August 27, 2025

After his first arrest for sex crimes, Jeffrey Epstein tried to get into a new line of work: surveillance. In 2015, he partnered with former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak to invest in a security tech startup called Reporty Homeland Security, now known as Carbyne. Leaked emails show that Epstein was using Barak to seek out opportunities in the surveillance industry and build connections with powerful figures around the globe, including American businessman Peter Thiel, the former director of Israeli signals intelligence, and two people in Russian President Vladimir Putin's circle.

After he was first caught sexually exploiting teenage girls, Epstein had pleaded guilty to soliciting prostitution in 2008; he served a little over a year in detention. Meanwhile, he invested his wealth in bizarre projects, including a ranch to breed women with his DNA and "efforts to identify a mysterious particle that might trigger the feeling that someone is watching you," according to The New York Times.

The leaked emails show that Epstein was also interested in more mundane means of spying on and manipulating people, which overlapped with the technologies governments often pursue. This interest crossed borders.

Barak's email inbox was quietly posted by Distributed Denial of Secrets, a website widely considered to be a successor to WikiLeaks, on a file-sharing platform for verified journalists and researchers in May 2025. The contents came from Handala, a hacker group named for a Palestinian cartoon character that has been leaking files taken from senior Israeli officials for several months.

Although the emails were posted without technical metadata or cryptographic signatures that would allow their authenticity to be verified, they include dozens of images, videos, voice recordings, and scanned documents from Barak and his friends and family that have never been published elsewhere. And they include information that was not publicly known at the time of the email leaks, including a reference to Epstein's birthday book.

Continues…

https://reason.com/2025/08/27/inside-jeffrey-epsteins-spy-industry-connections/

Global reach, money has. Same for blackmail.

Response to Kid Berwyn (Original post)

Botany

(76,248 posts)
12. With in 24 hours of Epstein speaking of Trump using his plane and Epstein using Trump's plane he was dead
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 03:49 PM
18 hrs ago

Both guards just happened to fall asleep @ the time and the video monitors went out too.
You can’t blame the guards either. “Hey, Mr.Guard here is a nice picture of your home and family.
Shame anything might happen to the house and people.”


Kid Berwyn

(22,723 posts)
52. The Trotskyites cover this story better than Corporate McPravda.
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 09:49 AM
6 min ago
Epstein’s co-conspirators remain protected in new DOJ file release

by Kevin Reed
World Socialist Web Site, December 24, 2025

The chaotic dump of material into the public domain—riddled with redactions, unexplained anomalies and overt political spin—expresses the crisis of the American ruling class and its determination to shield its own from exposure and accountability.

According to media tallies, the latest batch consists of upwards of 11,000 separate files totaling nearly 30,000 pages, making it the largest single release to date under the Epstein Files Transparency Act. The documents span court records, FBI and DOJ communications, emails, news clippings, spreadsheets, photos and “hundreds of video files,” together with materials related to Epstein’s 2019 death in federal custody.

The release was accompanied by an extraordinary but unsurprising political disclaimer from the DOJ posted on social media at 7:34 am:

Some of these documents contain untrue and sensationalist claims made against President Trump that were submitted to the FBI right before the 2020 election. To be clear: the claims are unfounded and false, and if they had a shred of credibility, they certainly would have been weaponized against President Trump already.


The tranche comes on top of earlier data sets which included thousands of investigative photos of Epstein’s New York and Virgin Islands properties, travel images, call logs, police files, and grand jury presentations and interview transcripts. On a purely quantitative level, the state acknowledges that the overall archive will ultimately amount to “several hundred thousand” documents revealing that what is being presented to the public remains partial, selective and tightly managed.

The large volume and unstructured character of Tuesday’s release, without coherent explanation, indexing or contextual analysis, is clearly intended to overwhelm and confuse. Tens of thousands of pages are posted in bulk, packed with duplicative material, press clippings, procedural minutiae and, crucially, heavy redactions that render key documents unintelligible.

Continues…

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/12/24/bheh-d24.html

Rich people and their slaves. Er, I mean, “toys.”

canetoad

(20,076 posts)
19. I didn't know this until recently
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 04:26 PM
17 hrs ago

When trump and Epstein fell out, ostenibly over the purchase of a Palm Beach mansion that trump eventually purchased, two weeks later Palm Beach police received a tip that young women had been seen entering and leaving his house.

https://archive.md/W4dkk
...snip
'He's a real creep'
It is unclear when Trump learned of allegations that Epstein was preying on teenage girls. In a 2002 interview, he gave no indication of concern, telling New York magazine that Epstein “enjoys his social life.”
“It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side,” Trump said.
On Nov. 28, 2004 — less than two weeks after the mansion auction — Palm Beach police fielded a tip that young women were seen coming and going from Epstein’s home, then-Police Chief Michael Reiter said in a deposition. Reiter declined to comment.


Did trump dob him in? I'll bet he did, even though tsf 'won' the auction, we've all seen the extent of his spite and retribution. This is a 2019 article from WaPo, although I've seen it mentioned elsewhere in archived articles.

FakeNoose

(40,001 posts)
31. Alex Acosta would know whether it was Chump who dropped a dime on Epstein
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 05:51 PM
16 hrs ago

However the falling out you mention happened because Chump screwed his old friend Jeffrey out of a prime piece of property. I don't believe Chump had the motive to make the call. Jeffrey might have had a motive, and he eventually did tell many of Chump's secrets to Michael Wolff, but it happened almost 10 years later when Chump was running for President.

canetoad

(20,076 posts)
34. I've thought about that
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 06:53 PM
15 hrs ago

But you never know what goes on in tsf's mind. Whether Epstein aggrieved him by wanting the house or something else. We will never know what transpired between those two.

UTUSN

(76,698 posts)
21. KRASNOV's mob/cartel m.o. is to ditch anybody threatening or not useful anymore & take vengeance on the rest.
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 04:40 PM
17 hrs ago

Mme. Defarge

(8,881 posts)
24. I have always been suspicious of the power blackout
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 04:52 PM
17 hrs ago

in NYC later that night. Maybe searching Epstein’s New York residence for incriminating evidence on his clients?

fujiyamasan

(1,127 posts)
25. While I always found his death suspicious
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 04:59 PM
16 hrs ago

It’s becoming less and less likely this was just a suicide. There are too many convent coincidences in this whole twisted drama for them to be just that. Too many ties between the players. Epstein clearly had leverage on Trump and likely on Barr as well (and Barr had it on Trump too; that’s probably why he hasn’t been indicted yet even though trump hates him).

I have a feeling that’s also why Barr didn’t side with Trump on contesting the election. He knew this would all spill out at some point and he wanted out. Barr was Trump’s bagman. He knows where the bodies are buried. Like any bagman, he’s also not stupid. He knew the job was done and by dragging things out he was going to implicate himself at some point. Notice his name hasn’t really come up recently. I don’t think that’s just luck.

I think the real concern for Trump was this would be out in time for the 2020 election, which he was possibly on track to winning until COVID.

I’m usually not one to entertain conspiracy theories, but sometimes conspiracies aren’t just theories.

barbtries

(31,096 posts)
26. this could be big.
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 05:03 PM
16 hrs ago

I've never thought the man killed himself. always thought Barr arranged the murder, whether or not it was on a direct order from krasnov. I thought it was maybe something like "will no one rid me of this man who has the ability to destroy me?" and someone did.

FakeNoose

(40,001 posts)
35. Bill Barr indeed knows way more than he's saying
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 07:05 PM
14 hrs ago

... that's a sure thing. Whether he can point out who murdered Epstein or not ... well that remains to be seen.

Mime

(32 posts)
43. Epstein / Barr connection
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 10:33 PM
11 hrs ago

Barr's father Donald was the Headmaster of the Dalton School in NYC when Jeffrey Epstein was hired as a math teacher.
Donald Barr also wrote a book in 1973, Space Relations, science fiction about a planet ruled by oligarchs who engage in child sex slavery.

barbtries

(31,096 posts)
45. there ya go.
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 10:39 PM
11 hrs ago

I know it will probably never come out, but I think that's what happened. barr did the dirty work - not the actual murder, but setting it up, making the payments, etc.

Cheezoholic

(3,508 posts)
27. I've always thought THIS stuff is what they're really hiding
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 05:19 PM
16 hrs ago

Just as his disgusting sex ring was an intersection for the most vile aspects of power, not just sex.

Totally Tunsie

(11,529 posts)
39. Jesus...what a way to live.
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 08:32 PM
13 hrs ago

It must get tricky trying to keep track of who you own and who owns you. Make one mistake or underestimate just one point or two and the house of cards comes tumbling down on top of you. No wonder Dozing Donnie can't get a good night's sleep. His mind - what's left of it - must be doing spirals whenever he closes his eyes. It's not enough to look over his shoulder. He must tie himself in knots at times trying to avoid the landmines in his life. BOOM!
Couldn't happen to a more deserving guy!

doc03

(38,787 posts)
53. Trump wouldn't have directly authorized killing Epstein. He may have said to one
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 09:50 AM
5 min ago

of his sycicopants you know things could happen to Epstein in prison, but there are no Trump fingerprints
on it. After all why would he, he barely knew anything about Epstein other than meeting him once.

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