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OAITW r.2.0
(32,159 posts)a fucking moron.
Deuxcents
(26,934 posts)Emile
(42,300 posts)Norrrm
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Silent Type
(12,412 posts)I'd darn sure be studying AI, even if not a major because it's useful in just about every endeavor.
With that said, yeah we are going to have to be ready if, in fact, millions are displaced and there are no other jobs. That didn't happen with internet or computers, despite doomsday prediction.
highplainsdem
(62,167 posts)wasted on hallucinating LLMs churning our fake writing and images and video and music, and scrambled summaries and inferior code, while students aren't learning, adults are being deskilled, and our information ecosystem is being degraded hour by hour.
There's been plenty of indication that LLMs are not the path AI development should be taking, but the AI companies have invested so much time and money they don't want to admit they were wrong, and they keep hoping moar data, moar infrastructure, will somehow magically conjure AGI, while they make a wreck of society and the planet.
China's cracking down on AI slop: https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/china-cracking-down-ai-slop
We're not, because con men like Sam Altman think the way to get more customers is to tell them how much fun they'll have generating AI slop like this...and the.nitwit didn't even notice that his new image generator even got the calendar wrong. As I said, dumbed down. But hey, great AI abs...
They're giving us Idiocracy. And if they're all too stupid to apply the brakes to this madness, the bubble bursting and a very cold AI winter would be a good thing.

Silent Type
(12,412 posts)those ethical and accurate. Besides, before AI, memes and calendars were just photoshopped. Not much new.
highplainsdem
(62,167 posts)profiting from slavery. You have to deaden at least part of your conscience and awareness to feel okay using it.
I've met too many people harmed by genAI to consider it acceptable.
Silent Type
(12,412 posts)highplainsdem
(62,167 posts)consisting only of what's in the public domain and what they have obtained advance permission to use.
Of course the AI companies have already admitted that wouldn't be enough, and they couldn't afford to pay for enough.
Most of the value of genAI is the stolen intellectual property. Greatest theft of IP ever. The thieves should spend some time in prison.
Silent Type
(12,412 posts)highplainsdem
(62,167 posts)generated and felt stupidly proud of, and thought would make people eager to use OpenAI's tools and pay more. That idiotic AI slop was all over X.
highplainsdem
(62,167 posts)I don't need AI to think or write for me.
I can't count on it for reliable information or any type of research, because of the error rate.
Same problem with the error rate goes for AI summaries.
Ditto for calendars. AI is known to screw up calendars and appointments/events.
I wouldn't trust a chatbot to suggest what news I should read, let alone summarize it.
I don't need to code, but if I did, I'd learn to code, rather than using AI to pretend I could.
As tempting as it might be to use AI for music or visual art, I know anything it would generate from a prompt wouldn't be my creation, any more than the Skechers I ordered yesterday were designed and cobbled together by me. You really have to be both delusional and egotistical to believe that anything AI generates for you was your work - your creativity.
I know I can't trust AI recipes, and I already have a couple of shelves of cookbooks. If I want more recipes, they're easy to find in other books or magazines, or on websites with content from humans - as long as those websites survive despite AI companies repeatedly stealing their content with the intention of offering so much of the stolen content through their AI that people - and ad dollars - stop there.
I'm not so lonely I need to talk to a machine designed to flatter people and keep them engaged. And I'm also well aware of how dangerous the flattery and manipulation can be, and how much of a waste of time it is. DIY machine sycophants were never a good idea.
I would never have AI read and answer email for me, since that's both stupid and dishonest, and can really derail communication if chatbots are being used by both people to both summarize email received and turn a short prompt for the reply into a longer letter. That can quickly turn into a game of Telephone via AI.
I really miss the loved ones I lost, but I can't think of anything that would be more disrespectful of them or stupid/delusional of me than creating or having someone create an AI simulacrum of them.
fujiyamasan
(1,695 posts)It saves me a ton of time wasted on Google searches.
Contrary to what some posters will state (who dont even use the technology), it can be used to educate and teach and analyze data. It has improved considerably. Is it full proof? No, but Im using it as a tool not some sort of oracle.
Im ignoring the posters constantly harassing others about using it. Its absurd. It appears some view this as some sort of litmus test on morality.
Silent Type
(12,412 posts)highplainsdem
(62,167 posts)it's basically fraud. Any writing, art or music it generates when I type in a prompt isn't MY work, any more than if I asked another person to do something for me. The error rate means you don't really save much time using it, unless you don't check the results.
And before there were studies showing it dumbs users down, I was hearing about that from teachers in despair over the damage AI was doing to education.
haele
(15,405 posts)As the tool was "saving" me in compiling data and putting it in the right categories to work with.
For instance, two months ago, MS Co-Pilot and a Power BI shell almost cost my project $4.2 million dollars mishandling the final FY 28 Spend Plan data that last year I spent a day of manual inputs and another half day double-checking and putting into a trend graph to brief the resource sponsor.
It took me one week to fix, between finding missing and mis-categorized inputs from other departments and vendors, manually enter the data into last year's worksheet, importing a copy of that worksheet into the AI tool after I went through a day-long process of deleting and denying the old data and file, modeling the tool to see where I had to condense or further manipulate program specific data, further fix a copy to get the correct result, then forcing the AI to use my manual file copy upload.
And I still spent a day checking the Power BI file they were using to ensure when I pushed the data to my sponsor, the data would be correct.
If I had taken DRP, there would have been all sorts of shortages, because the Co-Pilot AI I'm being forced to use did not recognize unique system situations inherent to my particular program, and almost outright refused to allow me to make the formulaic and category changes I needed.
And the Systems Engineering and Program Management component of my program- oof.
AI still can't seem to figure out the difference between MBSE and basic Systems Engineering. It can tell me when there can be risk, but there's no determinative risk assessment result, even if I give it something like "schedule predecessors risk completion first, then budget risks" prompts.
I'm not doing basic home/business accounting on Quicken Books with interest accrual, depreciations, and common tax situation formulas built in.
Honestly, I can see where AI as it is now can be decent is a curated environment or as a isolated check widget for a specific function...but in my experience - it's working harder than it is smarter, and it spends too much time telling me what it thinks I want to hear than what I need to hear - which leads to inaccurate data.
It may do what you need it to do, but honestly - it really ain't there yet for a lot of critical, complex systems with multiple rapidly changing and evolving dependencies. Unfortunately, that's what the invested AI developers supporters are pushing the product as it is now to be. The path to the answer to life, the Universe, and Everything, and if you don't get on the bandwagon now, you're a primitive nobody or worse, a Luddite *....
And in the wrong program, managing economies or people's lives and livelihoods, AI can cost trillions of dollars wasted along with people's lives and futures.
Don't force me to use AI, let me use what part of it I need and can trust it to provide.
* BTW, Luddites weren't against technology per day,, what they were against was the refusal of manufacturing plant owners to pay wages compensatory to the production and massive profits the workers were making for the owners once the initial investments were paid off.
highplainsdem
(62,167 posts)and X the last couple of years (not so much on Bluesky, because a higher percentage of people there seem to be anti-AI).
Anyway, stories like yours are one of the reasons the Trump regime's use of AI has seemed especially worrisome. Even if they were well-intentioned and competent, AI could easily make a mess of every agency. But they're neither. They're lazy, too. Disastrous, when using AI.
And their attitude toward AI makes it very likely they'll be much more tolerant of (or oblivious to) errors/hallucinations in weapons systems using AI, which is a separate nightmare.
OAITW r.2.0
(32,159 posts)"Likes"?
Silent Type
(12,412 posts)it's just another opinion.
Now, when they put Obama's photo on some white wing post, that should be illegal. And I suspect, Obama or anyone else has reason for a lawsuit when they do.
OAITW r.2.0
(32,159 posts)much to the angst of the IBM data-keepers. We did a lot of great things with that $50MM purchasing database.
Silent Type
(12,412 posts)OAITW r.2.0
(32,159 posts)But who is this "you"?
Silent Type
(12,412 posts)OAITW r.2.0
(32,159 posts)highplainsdem
(62,167 posts)OAITW r.2.0
(32,159 posts)Do we want Trump minions controlling AI?
Silent Type
(12,412 posts)highplainsdem
(62,167 posts)companies headed by unethical, dishonest people who don't care about democracy and other liberal values.
A Democratic win wouldn't have made the con artists behind crypto good guys, either.
Johonny
(26,189 posts)agingdem
(8,855 posts)Ping Tung
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(2,278 posts)Understands the concept since he tried to explain why his first-grade papers were identical to those of his desk-mate.
There are numerous tree stumps, especially those with attached mycelial networks, that have far more cerebral capability than he does.
highplainsdem
(62,167 posts)Mme. Defarge
(9,022 posts)I had to write a paper on what the future might have in store for businesses and workers. The topic i chose was robotics. In conclusion I wrote that the future of work was robots making robots in lightless factories.