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ProudMNDemocrat

(20,545 posts)
Mon Dec 22, 2025, 08:53 AM 21 hrs ago

Conservative Infighting Explodes At Turning Point USA's AmericaFest

It appears there is MAGA TROUBLE in MAGAland, ladies and gentlemen. Factions within the ultra MAGA universe cannot decide what is means to be all Pro-White America. Let the infighting commence as the divides over how to address conspiracy theories and antisemitism were put on full display.
Get ready to read more about the term "Heritage American"



Top conservative influencers repeatedly turned on each other at Turning Point USA’s annual confab this past week while grappling with how to take on rising antisemitism and bigotry in the Republican Party.

The sold-out gathering, which was billed as AmericaFest and held in Phoenix, was the first event of its magnitude since TPUSA’s founder Charlie Kirk was shot and killed earlier this year. The infighting points to deeper divides the party is struggling to address, particularly since many of its younger members have embraced Nick Fuentes, a white supremacist and Holocaust denier, and other extremist views.

Ben Shapiro, a prominent conservative commentator, opened the event with a scathing takedown of a slew of Republican pundits, including some he accused of elevating conspiracy theories and antisemitism.

“The conservative moment is also in danger from charlatans who claim to speak in the name of principle, but actually traffic in conspiracism and dishonesty,” Shapiro said. “These people are frauds, and they are grifters, and they do not deserve your time.”

More at......https://www.huffpost.com/entry/turning-point-usa-ben-shapiro-tucker-carlson_n_6948be6be4b099a75cbd47c6?origin=home-latest-news-unit


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Conservative Infighting Explodes At Turning Point USA's AmericaFest (Original Post) ProudMNDemocrat 21 hrs ago OP
I'm ok with them destroying each other.............. Lovie777 21 hrs ago #1
So am I. calimary 18 hrs ago #5
I'm more than okay. ShazzieB 16 hrs ago #9
I'm loving it IronLionZion 11 hrs ago #13
My take on "Heritage American" is a RACIST trope that means.... ProudMNDemocrat 21 hrs ago #2
I think they'd really like to reinstate slavery radical noodle 20 hrs ago #3
We have also seen that recently with MTG and Matt Gaetz. keep_left 18 hrs ago #6
They do mental gymnastics to justify their idiotic hatred IronLionZion 11 hrs ago #14
The only true Heritage Americans are Native Americans. Lonestarblue 19 hrs ago #4
Your words are true. chouchou 11 hrs ago #15
Good Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin 17 hrs ago #7
"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." Dulcinea 16 hrs ago #8
Hilarious! bonzotex 13 hrs ago #10
Amen. I woke up a little few minutes ago, read this discussion and thought another reality had snuck in.. chouchou 11 hrs ago #16
In the Republican Civil war, Ben Shapiro is losing womanofthehills 9 hrs ago #18
Good! This movement is terrible. The sooner it dies, the better! Initech 13 hrs ago #11
It pegs my S-Meter .. Bo Zarts 12 hrs ago #12
Republican food fights are always the most besterest! /nt artemisia1 11 hrs ago #17

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,545 posts)
2. My take on "Heritage American" is a RACIST trope that means....
Mon Dec 22, 2025, 09:02 AM
21 hrs ago

Last edited Mon Dec 22, 2025, 01:26 PM - Edit history (1)

If you are not from a country that settled in America prior to the American Revolution(England or the Netherlands), YOU are NOT an AMERICAN. Immigrants from other parts of the world appear not to count.

So what about the Africans that were brought to this new continent AGAINST their wills to satisfy the lust of owners of huge tracts of land that became plantations? What of the people from other parts of Europe that spoke languages not English? This term "Heritage American" applies to those of Anglo-Saxon origins(England) only?

Do these TPUSA freaks want APARTHEID for the United States? Why do they not just say that right out?

keep_left

(3,143 posts)
6. We have also seen that recently with MTG and Matt Gaetz.
Mon Dec 22, 2025, 12:01 PM
18 hrs ago

IIRC, MTG and Gaetz were planning to start a "WASP-American 'think' tank" of sorts, feeling that those Americans who couldn't trace their history back to the Mayflower weren't "real" Americans: the Irish, Italians, Slavs, Poles, etc. It's about as extreme and anti-American as it gets, but here we are.

IronLionZion

(50,726 posts)
14. They do mental gymnastics to justify their idiotic hatred
Mon Dec 22, 2025, 06:54 PM
11 hrs ago

Nick Fuentes is a self-hating Mexican-American who hates "the wrong kind" of Mexicans. It's idiotic.

We know what actual Nazis would do with Ben Shapiro and other conservative minorities. They'd probably get Fuentes too for being Hispanic.

Lonestarblue

(13,194 posts)
4. The only true Heritage Americans are Native Americans.
Mon Dec 22, 2025, 11:31 AM
19 hrs ago

White people are Johnny Come Latelies compared to Native Americans.

bonzotex

(872 posts)
10. Hilarious!
Mon Dec 22, 2025, 05:15 PM
13 hrs ago

He's actually right of course, but when Ben Shapiro becomes your voice of reason, you are truly drinking from an intellectual diarrhea fountain.

chouchou

(2,735 posts)
16. Amen. I woke up a little few minutes ago, read this discussion and thought another reality had snuck in..
Mon Dec 22, 2025, 06:57 PM
11 hrs ago

womanofthehills

(10,686 posts)
18. In the Republican Civil war, Ben Shapiro is losing
Mon Dec 22, 2025, 09:11 PM
9 hrs ago

It’s the war of Israel First vs America First. On line, the America first Republicans like Tucker, Candace, Massie etc are getting huge audiences while the Israel first like Ben Shapiro, Mark Levin, etc are losing podcast numbers. Ben might have to stop his podcast for lack of funds while Candace & Tucker are in top 5 in world. Young Turks going into this on X.

Initech

(107,240 posts)
11. Good! This movement is terrible. The sooner it dies, the better!
Mon Dec 22, 2025, 05:23 PM
13 hrs ago

Until then, let them fight!

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