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https://wtfdetective.blog/veteran-cant-believe-america-ice-arrest/Why did you vote for him? a member of Congress asked.
Because I was an idiot, the veteran replied. Evangelical Christian people were lied to, if you really want to know the truth. And thats exactly what happened. He said he believed deportations would only target criminals, but instead his wife someone devoted to serving others was detained. My wife and I, when we dont work, were ministers. We help the needy. Thats what we do. And thats who theyre arresting.
Link to tweet
Orrex
(66,599 posts)Bettie
(19,219 posts)and they weren't "lied to" that orange man and his minions told them exactly what they were going to do, he simply chose not to listen and to assume that the terrible things he was cheering for would somehow not impact him.
Vogon_Glory
(10,171 posts)Almost all the MAGA voters refused to see who they were voting for as well what they were voting for. My sympathy for them is paper-thin at best: they not only voted for Donald John but they took the rest of us with them.
When reason, logic, morality, and appeals to their higher selves fail like nine-pins, theres always pain, and the wounds were self-inflicted.
Mysterian
(6,145 posts)He's a fucking idiot.
tblue37
(68,116 posts)hurting the people he's supposed to hurt!"
UpInArms
(53,960 posts)what jolted him awake ..
It was when
IT AFFECTED HIM
Fuck him with a chainsaw
Orrex
(66,599 posts)UpInArms
(53,960 posts)Stupid
slightlv
(7,396 posts)Bengus81
(9,758 posts)bluestarone
(21,066 posts)What pisses me off is they think it's ok to vote maybe against TSF, but then turn around and vote for Repubicon house and Senate members. WTF is wrong with these fuck heads??
IbogaProject
(5,565 posts)Goodbye fool.
Polybius
(21,394 posts)When it affects them personally?
Irish_Dem
(79,382 posts)pazzyanne
(6,745 posts)Hey Joe
(376 posts)Convenient consumerism, rampant greed, xenophobia and warm comforting lies have overtaken facts and objective reality to grease the skids of our downfall as a nation once revered but now disgraced.
Irish_Dem
(79,382 posts)yardwork
(68,885 posts)Hundreds of millions Americans are fools.
Walleye
(43,710 posts)gab13by13
(31,063 posts)criminals have a right to due process also. What exactly do you preach when you do your ministering?
Ray Bruns
(5,932 posts)Omnipresent
(7,299 posts)He probably never thought it through or he was for trump for other reasons.
Squaredeal
(706 posts)And neither are most of Trump supporters. (Americas apex of its Bell Curve is only 98. The higher the IQ and education level, the more likely the voter is a Democrat. Even Fox News admits it.)
DaBronx
(751 posts)Emile
(40,321 posts)My god, after what that idiot did his first four years they still voted.him.
Justice matters.
(9,281 posts)"just want your vote" these morons didn't understand?
It just boggles the mind! They voted for a convicted felon, an adjudicated sex assaulter and insurrectionist liar with tens of thousands of documented lies who told them he doesn't care about them!
They are reaping what they have sown... as their cult said...
Scrivener7
(58,151 posts)malaise
(292,257 posts)He told you FAFO
TheBlackAdder
(29,981 posts)kellytore
(254 posts)Doesn't care about anything until it affects them personally.
ybbor
(1,701 posts)Why is it eating my face?
FAFO
Bengus81
(9,758 posts)Joinfortmill
(19,909 posts)twodogsbarking
(17,484 posts)Blues Heron
(8,255 posts)Doodley
(11,573 posts)Vogon_Glory
(10,171 posts)But also by themselves. Hillary Clinton didnt force them to believe the con-mans spiel. The libs at NBC didnt force them to believe Donald John. George Soros didnt force them to buy into MAGA BS: they chose to believe it themselves.
Thunderbeast
(3,760 posts)The pre-frontal cortex was unable overcome the instincts drumming in their heads from their brain stems.
Eat, breathe, reproduce... pretty much done.
Glaisne
(618 posts)How come he doesn't know that Trump and Republicans don't give a damn about the needy and work to make their lives worse? What a clueless dummy.
MrsCheaplaugh
(263 posts)They wanted to believe the lies, just like this nitwit. No surprise that rubes who already believe a dead man walked out of his tomb and the earth is 6000 years old would swallow more horse shit about Donald Trump loves America.
Now Stupid regrets his vote. A fat lot of good that does now.
mwooldri
(10,783 posts)I could be naive but I feel Christians should at least know what Jesus is all about. DJT's message isn't Christian. But then the mitigating circumstances here are there are too many false preachers in the Christian community that are teaching falsehoods. Especially this "prosperity gospel" stuff. So if you have these false preachers leading their flock to DJT... I get it. It's not just DJT... It's the whole right wing so-called Evangelical community.
UTUSN
(76,705 posts)evolves
(5,726 posts)that a compulsive liar would have lied??
C_U_L8R
(48,794 posts)You got exactly what you wished on someone else.
3Hotdogs
(14,982 posts)on is ministering duties when he tells the sucke --- sorry parishioners about welcoming strangers and Mary and Joe not being treated too good in the town where they were strangers.
Johonny
(25,293 posts)You knew he committed fraud, you knew about Jan 6th, you knew about him stealing stop secret documents, you knew about Epstein, you knew about the ten counts of obstruction of justice in the Russian investigation, there were two impeachment (2!), you knew about access Hollywood tape, you knew about his complete lack of a Covid vaccination plan, you knew all this and . . . What you decided not to know, because all this shit was out there. Fuck people like this.
FalloutShelter
(14,138 posts)Jesus wept.
This was an easy test and this jerk failed.
Rapist, Traitor, Felon or Kamala Harris.
This was a layup pass-fail.
F-
Go directly to Hell.
durablend
(8,880 posts)Doubtful
ecstatic
(35,003 posts)But even I, as a fully documented, "natural born" American (with no ties to anyone undocumented that I'm aware of) understood what would be coming.
When you listen to magats, it always boils down to the same reasons. Rarely (if ever) do they mention crime. They were concerned about a hypothetical trans person joining a girls' soccer team, or they were full of jealousy when they heard about undocumented individuals (who literally have nothing) receiving a voucher to stay at a New York hotel on a freezing cold night. Sometimes they even throw in the nonsense excuse of wanting to stop abortion.
I wonder if the people who became radicalized when the undocumented were given temporary housing ever considered what it would look like if the undocumented, who were transported to New York under false pretenses, were not given housing and were instead left to starve and freeze on the street. Is that the type of country they want to live in?
That type of cruel approach is 100% out of step with biblical teaching, by the way. The Bible specifically references how people should treat foreigners.
haele
(15,030 posts)Especially people who are living fairly comfortably but don't like that they still have to budget.
I mean, all those influencers and TV shows have working middle class folks like them able to just brunch at the coffee shop with friends every day, buy whatever they need for their Chi-Chi homemade dinners, or go out on a monthly date night - pay for a babysitter, dinner and movie - and still not have to worry about paying rent/mortgage, utilities, groceries, auto, insurance, medical bills, ect...
It's a matter of petulance for them. They aren't getting what they want, so f' helping lesser people who don't deserve the help anyway.
If they died in the street, it serves them right.
Aristus
(71,539 posts)Fucking deal with it.
qanda
(10,434 posts)You would still be supporting this monster if his actions didn't come to your front door.
Hassin Bin Sober
(27,361 posts)
catbyte
(38,578 posts)
Wonder Why
(6,518 posts)That makes it three times as bad.
Being stupid and voting for a monster.
Violating the oath he took.
Knowing that the Ugly Pig wanted to deport immigrants when his wife was one.
Justice matters.
(9,281 posts)and covered it up by signing checks to buy her silence before the election, no less.
iemanja
(57,314 posts)Though many don't seem to want it. I for one would like to see the next President be a Democrat.
Keepthesoulalive
(2,098 posts)He would be the same asshole if it didnt affect him. Placating him wont change his core, only he can give a crap about something other than himself.
iemanja
(57,314 posts)Its about driving away voters, which is exactly what insulting them does. The result is another Republican administration, which isnt a logical goal of Democrats. Yet people care more about anger and vengeance than winning. This is the continual response to disillusioned Trump voters, which suggests people either cant control their emotions or dont know how to win. Either way, the result is increased authoritarianism and death.
Keepthesoulalive
(2,098 posts)As they are being handcuffed and taken away and that child is put in a cage with other children. Many never to be united, Tiki torches in Charlottesville, a grieving pregnant widow and so many other atrocities and you vote for him again. I will give you the same sympathy you gave others. If his wife was not a victim of Trumps cruelty he would vote the same. Were winning elections without assholes like him because our voters are motivated. The majority of white men in the last elections we have had have voted for republicans. We need to motivate our base and to hell with the haters.
iemanja
(57,314 posts)You think its about whether he is a good person. Thats a question for his conscience and his god. What Democrats should care about is winning elections. If its up to the people who want retribution, we will lose in perpetuity and extend human suffering. It shouldnt be a difficult decision.
Keepthesoulalive
(2,098 posts)He saw what happened the first term and learned nothing. Perhaps pain will teach him and I will not stop that learning nor will I make it hurt less. As adults we should learn from experience. After the fall of Germany during world war 2 many Germans still loved Hitler but they passed strict laws and made sure people learned history the good and the bad. After the civil war in the United States , we let them up easy and we are still seeing the south trying to rise again. Their identities are tied up with trump and the Republican Party, nothing said on democratic underground will change that.
iemanja
(57,314 posts)Trump voters to continue to vote Republican. Im sure if you have your way, they will. And so the Republicans will keep winning.
We get the government we deserve.
Keepthesoulalive
(2,098 posts)They were not mistaken, they were prideful and hateful. Maybe if you speak in comforting language and tell the folks of West Virginia please vote for the democrats they may see the error of their votes. I will not give the oppressor a map, he must find his own way out. Because he would put me and those like me on a plane to nowhere and cheer as it takes off. I want to win therefore I bust my ass to get more and better democrats in office, I do not waste my time with collaborators .
hatrack
(64,176 posts)But he couldn't be bothered to pay attention, or (apparently) to learn anything at all about the asshole he voted for in 2024.
His decision came after ten full years of Trump's arrogance, rage, stupidity and corruption on full public political display, and after four full years of his shambolic performance as president with an insurrection as the cherry on top of the shit sundae.
Where was this guy between 2017 and 2021?!?
Now we're expected to hold his hand, and pat his head, and encourage him with cookies and fruit rollups to come with us to the nearest library in hope that he'll occasionally read a book or a fucking newspaper?
iemanja
(57,314 posts)The only question is do you want the votes of disillusioned Trump voters or do you want to lose to the Republicans?
hatrack
(64,176 posts)Buh-bye.
iemanja
(57,314 posts)You want to indulge your anger. That doesnt interest me. I care about winning the next presidential election, and that means not driving away voters.
JI7
(93,115 posts)nobody lied to you. If anything you lie to yourself.
If this had not happened to his wife yet he would be cheering on what is happening to others.
lonely bird
(2,710 posts)It has always been America. Groups that come here in any significant number have always been crapped on and blamed for other peoples woes.
Timewas
(2,626 posts)FAFO, this is the FO part
niyad
(129,334 posts)members suckers and losers, a man who loves dictators, hates our allies, and is actively destroying that which you took an oath (with no expiration date) to defend. You ae beyond stupid, you are complicit.
Oh, and by the way, many of us out here strongly object to you reichwing evangelicals shoving your version of christianity down our throats, trying to force your version of shaaria law and living on the rest of us.
yardwork
(68,885 posts)Rebl2
(17,334 posts)understand. He said evangelicals were lied to? Why is it the majority of democrats knew many years ago that trump has been lying to people for years! He has also cheated people out of their money for many, many years.
Deep State Witch
(12,537 posts)Those leopards are gonna need Ozempic.
patphil
(8,670 posts)They wanted to believe Trump would do what they wanted, even though he told them what he was going to do. They ignored the cognitive dissonance of the actual situation in favor of a self-imposed fantasy of Trump being a good leader.
For those who can actually do it, the awakening is slow and painful.
There's very little critical thinking going on in MAGA land.
aeromanKC
(3,802 posts)(1940's era PSA)
Jacson6
(1,740 posts)Listen to their talk shows and read conservative forums. People don't understand that fact.
sakabatou
(45,709 posts)You're worse than an idiot! You're a complicit idiot!
GoodRaisin
(10,697 posts)are very confused people.
purr-rat beauty
(944 posts)...Elections have consequences
Or is it...
womp womp
Martin68
(26,942 posts)helpisontheway
(5,365 posts)Whatever..Karma!
Initech
(107,245 posts)B.See
(7,634 posts)he ran out and voted for scum who peddled hate and promised authoritarian rule.
Got what he fkn DESERVED.
flvegan
(65,682 posts)Cha
(316,438 posts)Not "America" anymore.
kairos12
(13,456 posts)It wasn't Jodie who got your girl, it was Trumpie.
Zelda_Orchid
(28 posts)
tblue37
(68,116 posts)trust obvious, repeated liars and felons.
meadowlander
(5,087 posts)OAITW r.2.0
(31,337 posts)and that was likely a majority of voters.
The Roux Comes First
(2,123 posts)Neighbor who doesn't look like you, worship like you, and join you in a hate-spree several times a week."
Just like their bible apparently says. Are they still fixated on Ussher's Year 4004?
Tactical Peek
(1,398 posts)
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mcar
(45,598 posts)Did you not know that?
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mcar
(45,598 posts)There are dozens of forums for special interests. Also, hundreds of OPs a day on various issues. You have picked this one to comment on - and threaten us with your departure if we don't pull ourselves together. Interesting from a 2 post new member.
Conjuay
(2,863 posts)only for the last 2000 years or so...
Blaukraut
(5,979 posts)This motherfecker knew exactly what he was voting for unless he slept through Trumps first term. He clearly wanted Trump to enact his entire agenda as long as it benefited him, not hurt him. Selfish pieces of shit like this guy get no sympathy from me. I am fresh out of fucks to give.
Fiddlelady11
(101 posts)Please suffer the rest of your life.
Susan Calvin
(2,397 posts)Who knew or should have known what they were voting for and then cry when they get it.
Skittles
(169,244 posts)they just didn't think it would negatively affect THEM
Upthevibe
(9,993 posts)Idiot and....he's right....
tavernier
(14,217 posts)would be criminals, rapists and murderers, I can forgive him for being stupid because Ive done a number of stupid things in my life. If I end up hating everyone, even those who now see the truth, how can I expect forgiveness when I screw up?
calimary
(88,861 posts)You were lied to? You didnt listen to anybody else?
You didnt read the warnings from so many people who knew him and how he deceived people and how there was coverage about all the holes in his assertions?
You didnt watch anything other than Pox Noise?
What worries me most is how too many people will allow themselves to be conned again, either by him or those coming after him who want what he got (or conned you for, or lied to you about, or just flat-out stole from you and all the rest of us).
Betty Boom
(364 posts)These people only care when an issue directly affects them. How laughable that he would hold himself up as some sort of representative of faith. Screw him and screw his wife. There are better people to worry about.
Skittles
(169,244 posts)IT BOGGLES THE MIND
underpants
(194,594 posts)RockRaven
(18,625 posts)The Dotard said he was going to do everything that he is doing! These assholes ignored the parts they didn't want to hear, and now whine that they were lied to. They were lied to... BY THEMSELVES.
ColoringFool
(202 posts)Blues Heron
(8,255 posts)Blumancru
(180 posts)Want to know a secret, MAGAts? He hates you only slightly less than he hates Democrats. He secretly calls you suckers. And you are, thats why you have earned his contempt.
rustbeltvoice
(479 posts)at least not at the same time. Jesus was a logician. You make a choice of one or the other.. Jesus was talking about God and Mammon; but same principle here.
Norrrm
(3,875 posts)I Dont Care About You. I Just Want Your Vote
Trump claims it was a joke but it turns out to be true.
Link to tweet
Scalded Nun
(1,590 posts)camartinwv
(139 posts)Some people just think they are better than others and are shocked when they get what they asked for.
W T F
(1,186 posts)DFW
(59,689 posts)Trump promised to arrest the worst of the worst.
Hes arresting Evangelical ministers who voted for him
Yeah. So? Where is the inconsistency?
Old Crank
(6,605 posts)I would say that he and his wife are con artists also.
Birds of a feather like Trump.