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applegrove

(129,773 posts)
Sat Dec 13, 2025, 05:08 PM Yesterday

Charlie Kirk killing: Anti-Christian hate crime?

"Three months after the assassination of Charlie Kirk, the Justice Department is weighing how to bring federal charges against the shooter, including under a novel legal theory that it was an anti-Christian hate crime..."

Because that was the only defining characteristic about Kirk... 😑😒🙄

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Charlie Kirk killing: Anti-Christian hate crime? (Original Post) applegrove Yesterday OP
Hardcore narritive push gay texan Yesterday #1
What's also amusing is the self-own implied here. AZJonnie Yesterday #2
An anti-hate hate crime I could believe CanonRay Yesterday #3
Bullshit Jilly_in_VA Yesterday #4
It was an anti-Kirk hate crime. Iggo Yesterday #5
Wouldn't he have to be Christian for this to be an anti-Christian hate crime Jerry2144 Yesterday #6
They're rebranding him as a Xian Soldier as we speak. Iggo Yesterday #7
Looks like the DOJ (Department of Jesus?) is run by a bunch of theo-nuts. It's not a crime to be against christ (sic). RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Yesterday #8
From a prosecutorial perspective drmeow Yesterday #9
I dont care at all about Charlie Kirke. Like who was he anyway.!!!!! Trueblue1968 23 hrs ago #10

gay texan

(3,138 posts)
1. Hardcore narritive push
Sat Dec 13, 2025, 05:20 PM
Yesterday

They want to make this a thing as it fits right into their playbook

AZJonnie

(2,593 posts)
2. What's also amusing is the self-own implied here.
Sat Dec 13, 2025, 05:22 PM
Yesterday

The suspect said "I'm sick of his hate". Seems like, in order to argue, based only on that evidence, that religious animus motivated him, one has must argue that "hate" is a defining feature of "Christians". But maybe my syllogism is fallacious, I've not thought TOO deeply on it.

Really they just want to a) grandstand for the cult of clapping seals, and b) Make a mockery of Hate Crime laws generally, which conservatives have always ... you know

Jilly_in_VA

(13,709 posts)
4. Bullshit
Sat Dec 13, 2025, 05:27 PM
Yesterday

more shit, piled higher and deeper.
Whatever Charlie Kirk's killing was, it wasn't "ant-Christian". Anti-Nazi, anti-some faction or other, anti-him because he was against LGBT, anti-whatever, or just mad at him on general principles, or trying to make a name for oneself, or a targeted shot by someone NOT named Tyler Robinson---think we'll ever REALLY know the truth? But it most definitely was NOT "anti-Christian" and they can shut that playbook right now because Tyler Robinson was a Mormon, or at least raised one, and they consider themselves Christian, even if they are weird.

Iggo

(49,550 posts)
5. It was an anti-Kirk hate crime.
Sat Dec 13, 2025, 05:46 PM
Yesterday

Dude was an asshole. Nobody should be surprised that, in the Land of Gunfuckers, some gunfucker took a shot at him.

Jerry2144

(3,153 posts)
6. Wouldn't he have to be Christian for this to be an anti-Christian hate crime
Sat Dec 13, 2025, 06:03 PM
Yesterday

I’ve seen no evidence he follows His teachings

RedWhiteBlueIsRacist

(1,679 posts)
8. Looks like the DOJ (Department of Jesus?) is run by a bunch of theo-nuts. It's not a crime to be against christ (sic).
Sat Dec 13, 2025, 07:39 PM
Yesterday

drmeow

(5,875 posts)
9. From a prosecutorial perspective
Sat Dec 13, 2025, 07:45 PM
Yesterday

this seems like a pretty stupid idea. To prove an "anti-Christian" hate crime, I think they would have to present evidence that the shooter said things about Charlie Kirk's Christianity as well as Christianity in general. I don't think he did so - which raises the risk of a not guilty verdict, at least for that charge. I'm SURE those are the optics they are hoping for, right?

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