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KS Toronado

(22,494 posts)
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 07:21 PM Thursday

MAGAts at the cancer center today

Exact same couple I've run into twice already, they say their piece about tariffman and then turn their backs
to me like "that's all we're gonna say now that we owned a libtard, end of conversation."

Had no one else to talk to so plenty of time for gears turning upstairs. Was hoping the nurse would call my
name first and she obliged.

Got up, walking past the MAGAts I told them "Boy I sure hope our great President tRump kills Social Security
and Medicare like the super wealthy want him to do, they shouldn't have to help pay for our hospital bills, they
need all their money" then showed them my backside walking away.

Have never talked to an R like that before and never will again, just felt like giving them a taste of their own
medicine they like to dish out to Liberals. These 2 are true loyalists who worship Der orange Fuhrer.

The shocked look on their faces was worth it plus they were speechless.

So anyway I'm hooked up getting my hourly drip drip drip and thinking what I just did when it dawned on me
what should be our party's message going forward and it's so simple some of you will laugh at me and
dismiss it.......FOLLOW THE MONEY should be our rallying cry.

Isn't that the problem today? The 600? wealthiest families control most of the money, they use it to buy
R politicians who will write laws favorable to the super rich only. Plus it's the Rs who always want to cut
Social Security and Medicare while our side would love to increase them.

Rs give them huge tax breaks then our Government turns around and borrows it back from them with interest.

Some of the wealthiest pay no income tax but the IRS pays them money because of loop holes. Hey Mr & Mrs
poor R voter is that fair?

I truly believe if we make the next 2 elections about poor vs rich and if we had more money to spend because
of a higher minimum wage, we would be spending it creating more factory jobs to fill demand. The economy
would boom under our leadership.

And then there's follow the Epstein money to the really rich people who Rs are doing their best to keep secret
from the public, PEDOPHILE PROTECTORS because the rich have the money they want.

Donvict was billions in debt when elected, now he's billions to the good, FOLLOW THE MONEY.

Going forward my response to anyone wanting to talk politics will be FOLLOW THE MONEY if you want to know
how to improve this Democracy plus informational bits like millionaires on our side say tax me more while
millionaires on the R side say give me more money and loop holes.

FOLLOW THE MONEY needs to be repeated over and over again by all our Politicians and ourselves to get the
poor R voters to vote their pocketbook.

Some on our side already talk about wealth inequality, let's get everyone on board with the rallying cry
FOLLOW THE MONEY, you'll be glad you did. The rich don't need millions more to live comfortable.

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MAGAts at the cancer center today (Original Post) KS Toronado Thursday OP
I like this one.... multigraincracker Thursday #1
Looked up Minimum Wage Rates By State KS Toronado Thursday #2
But - soldierant Thursday #5
Come on not every R is that stupid KS Toronado Thursday #7
Accurate Scott Alan Swaggerty Yesterday #23
I imagine it would take a few hours for them to parse. "Mom - if I ain't a billionaire...." erronis Thursday #3
Ha Scott Alan Swaggerty Yesterday #21
Yes. That is good. Scott Alan Swaggerty Yesterday #20
That is a good one. nt leftyladyfrommo Yesterday #32
Yup. To quote someone from a few years ago, "Cui bono?" erronis Thursday #4
I volunteered at my local food shelf mgardener Thursday #6
Especially whenever Johnson adjourns the House Captain Zero Thursday #13
The wealthiest will trickle it down to the rest of us IronLionZion Thursday #8
REPUBLICONs popsdenver Yesterday #22
"FOLLOW THE MONEY" jfz9580m Thursday #9
MAGAt's are a cancer center AdamGG Thursday #10
Thank you KS Toronado Thursday #12
Pretty much Scott Alan Swaggerty Yesterday #24
TAX THE RICH AGAIN!!!!! And EAT Republican politicians who voted to Jack Valentino Thursday #11
Sounds like the Jessica Tandy movie Fried Green Tomatoes KS Toronado Thursday #14
A classic. "Les Beignets de Tomates Vertes" erronis Yesterday #26
If Ellison, Musk, Bezos, and Zuckerberg want to go to Mars... Initech Thursday #15
Yummy Scott Alan Swaggerty Yesterday #25
Just Remind Them modrepub Yesterday #16
Good for You! DET Yesterday #17
" I think that we need to focus on the corruption that the money creates." KS Toronado Yesterday #18
As DET said "...you need to find a way to calm yourself mentally during cancer treatment, for your own health." cyndensco Yesterday #27
Keep in mind this was the third time I have run into this couple in this red town KS Toronado Yesterday #30
I seldom knowingly encounter republicans and doubt I would try to have any kind of conversation with them. cyndensco Yesterday #35
Thank you KS Toronado Yesterday #36
K&R Scott Alan Swaggerty Yesterday #19
Stay belligerently honest and turn up the volume! Billsdaughter Yesterday #28
I'll pass on "belligerently" KS Toronado Yesterday #31
Use it as a Slogan? OKnow Yesterday #29
THANK YOU KS Toronado Yesterday #34
It's a skill alright. And they absolutely NEED to master it. calimary 19 hrs ago #42
Just blane it on the cencer drugs. He's carry8ng a heavy load right leftyladyfrommo Yesterday #33
Sorry, only assholes call a stranger a libtard split seconds after mentioning the price of eggs. KS Toronado Yesterday #39
The problem is with those regular folk magat types, they literally think if they follow the money Clouds Passing Yesterday #37
The bribing class The Wizard Yesterday #38
And I always just napped during chemo. xmas74 23 hrs ago #40
K & R Emile 20 hrs ago #41
What a grim scene for all involved. BannonsLiver 15 hrs ago #43

multigraincracker

(36,792 posts)
1. I like this one....
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 07:52 PM
Thursday

Your president said his base are the billionaires and uneducated. You don’t look like a billionaire. 👍

KS Toronado

(22,494 posts)
2. Looked up Minimum Wage Rates By State
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 08:02 PM
Thursday

It's basically all red states who are stuck at $7.25, we campaign on higher minimum wages we'd get
tons of poor Rs voting their pocketbooks.

https://www.ontheclock.com/State-Minimum-Wage.aspx

KS Toronado

(22,494 posts)
7. Come on not every R is that stupid
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 09:06 PM
Thursday

there's plenty who wished they made more money including your guy on the left.

erronis

(22,270 posts)
4. Yup. To quote someone from a few years ago, "Cui bono?"
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 08:47 PM
Thursday
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cui_bono%3F

Cui bono? (Classical Latin: [kui̯ ˈbɔnoː]), in English "to whom is it a benefit?", is a Latin phrase about identifying crime suspects. It depends on the fact that crimes are often committed to benefit their perpetrators; especially financially.


Good for you using your time in the medical establishment wisely!

mgardener

(2,262 posts)
6. I volunteered at my local food shelf
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 09:04 PM
Thursday

It should be required that all elected officials( local, state and Fed), cabinet members and Congressmen should be required to work a min of a weeks worth of shifts.


IronLionZion

(50,573 posts)
8. The wealthiest will trickle it down to the rest of us
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 09:46 PM
Thursday

so really they need lots more money because then they'll have more to trickle down to us.

popsdenver

(1,293 posts)
22. REPUBLICONs
Fri Dec 5, 2025, 01:00 PM
Yesterday

The best politicians and Supreme Justices corporate money can buy...........

I suspect, that soon, They will change the name of our country, from United States of America, to
United Corporations of America, or Corporate Fascist States of America.....

jfz9580m

(16,297 posts)
9. "FOLLOW THE MONEY"
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 10:09 PM
Thursday

I do try to hit back with my very average size wallet when I can. Which is why monopolies are a curse.

I wish Netflix wasn’t my streaming video service. This asshole is their ceo now:

https://deadline.com/2025/03/netflix-ted-sarandos-donald-trump-melania-trump-documentary-1236353536/

The last guy was a jerk too though I can’t remember exactly what it was. But he supported Musk’s lunatic worldview in some way. Can’t recall the details.

Any takers for the excuse that I like the critically acclaimed (!) “Yellowjackets”? No? Thought not.. Oh well..

I am only human..though apparently these days you need bazillion captchas to prove that


Jack Valentino

(4,137 posts)
11. TAX THE RICH AGAIN!!!!! And EAT Republican politicians who voted to
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 10:28 PM
Thursday

take SNAP money away from the poor while giving tax cuts to the rich!


(Even the House Speaker might be edible,
with enough time in the slow cooker
and a LOT of BBQ sauce!)

(or not?)

erronis

(22,270 posts)
26. A classic. "Les Beignets de Tomates Vertes"
Fri Dec 5, 2025, 01:37 PM
Yesterday

I remember walking in Paris 20+ years ago and one of the buses passed by with a placard for "Les Beignets de Tomates Vertes". It was very popular in France also.


Initech

(107,071 posts)
15. If Ellison, Musk, Bezos, and Zuckerberg want to go to Mars...
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 11:25 PM
Thursday

I say we send them there on a Space X rocket now.

modrepub

(3,978 posts)
16. Just Remind Them
Fri Dec 5, 2025, 05:49 AM
Yesterday

That they’ve probably paid more in federal income tax in the last decade than Trump did.

While it’s probably not true, Trump has never released his federal tax forms like most presidents. That’s probably because his tax payments are so low compared to his net worth.

DET

(2,334 posts)
17. Good for You!
Fri Dec 5, 2025, 06:43 AM
Yesterday

But you need to find a way to calm yourself mentally during cancer treatment, for your own health. Personally, I’m not sure that ‘Follow the money’ would resonate with the MAGATs. They can’t follow their own money, let alone anyone elses. Unfortunately, there are so many ways to launder, divert, and hide money now that it can be really hard to track. And even when we can track it, it often leads back to groups that the MAGATs support. I think that we need to focus on the corruption that the money creates. And the misplaced priorities (virtually unlimited ‘defense’ funds, almost nothing for social support). I know that there are creative minds out there who can craft the right message - if they’re allowed to.

KS Toronado

(22,494 posts)
18. " I think that we need to focus on the corruption that the money creates."
Fri Dec 5, 2025, 10:21 AM
Yesterday

"And the misplaced priorities (virtually unlimited ‘defense’ funds, almost nothing for social support)."

Like I said FOLLOW THE MONEY and how corrupt Rs are when they deal with it.

For any R voter working for minimum wage ($7.25),and there are millions of them, a new minimum wage
of $15 would resonate with them.

cyndensco

(1,756 posts)
27. As DET said "...you need to find a way to calm yourself mentally during cancer treatment, for your own health."
Fri Dec 5, 2025, 02:09 PM
Yesterday

When I see a maga hat or bumper sticker, I often feel my blood pressure increase. I am horrified you have to deal with these morons before a treatment.

Your health and well being are far more important than assholes that support the mf'er. Do you have earphones to play soothing music and drown out the imbeciles? Maybe if you just totally ignore them - totally disengage - they'll find something else to do?

Good luck with everything.

KS Toronado

(22,494 posts)
30. Keep in mind this was the third time I have run into this couple in this red town
Fri Dec 5, 2025, 03:54 PM
Yesterday

First time was at the grocery at the egg section and then I happened to get behind them at checkout, both times they said what was on their mind which was basically 'you low life libtard' and then both of them showed me their
backsides, 2nd time was at last months cancer treatment and again they were extremely rude and turned their backsides on me. I was ignoring them yesterday but the wheels up stairs were turning how could I possibly pay them back and get them to understand how IQ4.7 was screwing them when I came up with what I did. And I'm betting I'll see them at next month's treatment, we are on the same schedule it appears.

My blood pressure doesn't go up when I see a MAGA hat or bumper sticker, my mind starts wondering how I can best
educate them that they have their head up their ass without pissing them off, the whole time staying cool, calm, and collected.

Had more than one boss in life that's said "you can't intimidate him" referring to me. My dad taught me to question
everything in life, so I question Rs, even some who are MAGAts.

When is the last time you engaged in a meaningful conversation with a reQublican to show him the error of his ways?

cyndensco

(1,756 posts)
35. I seldom knowingly encounter republicans and doubt I would try to have any kind of conversation with them.
Fri Dec 5, 2025, 05:20 PM
Yesterday

While I admire people like you that try to enlighten those that think differently, I am not able nor care to do so. Being black, I have encountered racist people through the years and have developed a callous toward them. They are simply not worth my time.

I really do appreciate your efforts.





KS Toronado

(22,494 posts)
36. Thank you
Fri Dec 5, 2025, 05:46 PM
Yesterday

but please think twice about turning only one R person you know into a D, if everyone could do that there
would be no R party or super rich paying you pennies and demanding dollars for their products.
Have a nice weekend. Have you seen Friday's Condensed News Cartoons yet?

KS Toronado

(22,494 posts)
31. I'll pass on "belligerently"
Fri Dec 5, 2025, 03:59 PM
Yesterday

cool, calm, & collected works best for me, but thanks for wanting to light a fire under me.

OKnow

(4 posts)
29. Use it as a Slogan?
Fri Dec 5, 2025, 03:50 PM
Yesterday

I took the opening post a little differently. I took it to be recommending that exact phrase, "Follow the Money" as a Democratic Party slogan or meme. A slogan to be publicly spoken as often and as emphatically as possible. Just those three words to be used first whenever talking to or about the Publicans.

To me, this idea has merit. The other side is a master of branding by innuendo repeated from a playbook. We need the same. This phrase also has the happy merit of pointing to the truth.

I wish party leadership would work on succinct messaging more than they seem to do.

KS Toronado

(22,494 posts)
34. THANK YOU
Fri Dec 5, 2025, 04:26 PM
Yesterday

I honestly believe adding "FOLLOW THE MONEY" to our Democratic vocabulary would pay huge dividends
however one wanted to call it.

Everyone has heard the phrase and in my small brain it says "Go look for the truth in this", or "see the evil one"
and isn't that what we'd like to see Rs do is look at honest facts?

There are so many ways our side can talk about how the super rich & Rs use and abuse money that keeps the
99% poor or middle class. hope our party leadership is reading DU and giving our ideas for winning elections
serious thought. FOLLOW THE MONEY!

calimary

(88,687 posts)
42. It's a skill alright. And they absolutely NEED to master it.
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 12:20 AM
19 hrs ago

If you can come up with a good-enough slogan, you can talk your way around, and/or into, and/or out of ANYTHING.

KS Toronado

(22,494 posts)
39. Sorry, only assholes call a stranger a libtard split seconds after mentioning the price of eggs.
Fri Dec 5, 2025, 07:16 PM
Yesterday

Clouds Passing

(6,711 posts)
37. The problem is with those regular folk magat types, they literally think if they follow the money
Fri Dec 5, 2025, 06:09 PM
Yesterday

that they will eventually be rich. That is the big beautiful joke the rich Rs play on the poor Rs.

xmas74

(29,996 posts)
40. And I always just napped during chemo.
Fri Dec 5, 2025, 07:49 PM
23 hrs ago

It was when I had my follow ups at KU that people would try to talk. If I wasn't in the mood I'd tell them I was trying to study for my upcoming gyn exam and they'd promptly leave me alone.

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