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Sean Duffy on slashing fuel economy standards: "This rule will actually allow you to bring back the 1970s station wagon. Maybe a little wood paneling on the side. We can bring back choice to consumers."
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2025-12-04T13:23:34.925Z
doc03
(38,726 posts)Ocelot II
(128,585 posts)Maybe Elon will make a wood-paneled Tesla station wagon?
demmiblue
(39,070 posts)
Ocelot II
(128,585 posts)Kudos, I think...
Rob H.
(5,763 posts)BlueSpot
(1,234 posts)Diamond_Dog
(39,448 posts)A 1970s era wood paneled station wagon is the perfect symbol for what Republicans want for America.
Rebl2
(17,256 posts)would we want to bring back the ugly station wagon?
dameatball
(7,648 posts)
carpetbagger
(5,401 posts)The smallest kid fit sideways in that space between the 2nd and 3rd rows.
If you call me bitter and traumatized, I'll throw my prunes at you and chase you off my lawn.
rampartd
(3,285 posts)i lived in that sucker when my wife left.
eppur_se_muova
(40,666 posts)dsc
(53,282 posts)it was massive and got horrific gas mileage. Frankly school buses do better now than that did 20 years ago. It was, to be fair, a great car to move from Ohio to NC in. I was able to move a whole bunch of my stuff. But it was otherwise very impractical. I just bought a Hyundai Elantra Hybrid. I get just under 50 mpg in it so far. I literally had no American made option in terms of sedans.
kysrsoze
(6,392 posts)How can this adminstration be so completely out of touch, and idiotic about EVERYTHING?
MichMan
(16,446 posts)GM CEO Mary Barra said that in order to meet the current standards 50% of sales would need to be EV. She didn't see consumers interested in buying them in those numbers.
Fuel efficiency standards now being rolled back under President Donald Trump would have required a fleet average of about 50 miles per gallon by 2031. That effectively meant that most carmakers would have to get more than half of their sales from EVs by that time.
If those EV sales didnt materialize and the rules werent reduced by Biden in response GM would have had to limit sales of gasoline-powered vehicles and possibly shut down some of its production, Barra said at the New York Times Dealbook conference in New York on Wednesday.
We were going to have to start shutting down plants, Barra said.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/gm-s-barra-says-tough-auto-mileage-rules-risked-plant-shutdowns/ar-AA1REiGC?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=LCTS&cvid=6930ca569a1e44d88d66e91dd8baccca&ei=11
travelingthrulife
(4,075 posts)I remember one of these cars. We had 10 kids in our family. Those stuck in the back of the car of course had no seat belts so you would kind of roll around and most ended up nauseated.
llmart
(17,213 posts)There were seven kids and my parents and that's the only vehicle that would hold us all. We even had an Edsel station wagon and one time we had a funeral car. It had kneelers that folded down in the middle seat and we used to fight over who was going to get those seats. They were always used cars as we were poor. My parents never had a new car or two cars.
betsuni
(28,586 posts)Wiz Imp
(8,456 posts)
?w=768&h=525ForgedCrank
(2,997 posts)to disagree.
Vehicle emission systems were at peak effectiveness in the early 90's. In that era, we had catalyst systems and MFI that eliminated most pollutants. Since then, EGR and EVAP systems have grown out of control and are a plague for the consumer. That's not to even mention the 100+ sensors now required to monitor all of it and the dozens of other tech that has been implemented in an attempt to gain 0.01% extra efficiency. It's madness at this point.
All of the stuff added since then have been for minor, and I mean extremely minor gains and all at a massive cost. Not only cost in development and manufacturing, but they consume the vast majority of repair bills over the life of the vehicle, often sending otherwise mechanically serviceable vehicles to the scrap yard as they are no long worth fixing from a monetary viewpoint, or the mfg simply stopped making the parts.
The idea was taken way too far and it is the primary reason you now have to get 7 year loans to afford a new vehicle. The entire system needs to be revisited and brought back to a reasonable level. It is way out of control.
Americanme
(332 posts)I don't want to burn more gas every mile.
Hey Joe
(339 posts)Unless its a scheme to generate wealth from shaking down the world before killing the planet. That appears to be all that they are capable of.
travelingthrulife
(4,075 posts)Prairie Gates
(6,969 posts)unweird
(3,271 posts)We bought one a couple of years ago for retirement roadtripping. I was pleased that PA actually registered it as a station wagon and not an SUV.
Prairie Gates
(6,969 posts)purr-rat beauty
(891 posts)Off a short pier in a 1970s station wagon
Vinca
(53,116 posts)the way it was in the 1950's. It's taken decades to clean up and now we can look forward to starting all over again.
yardwork
(68,760 posts)I remember flying into LA in July 1975. We walked out of the airport into a greenish yellow haze that burned our eyes. It looked and smelled like Hell.
miyazaki
(2,584 posts)and/or spending recess inside the gym.
You can still see it in particular episodes of Adam 12 and Emergency! filmed in that time.
snowybirdie
(6,509 posts)way toocrowded with my 5 rug rats and dog. Forget groceries in the back. Isn't this the guy who has 6 or 7 kids?
Wiz Imp
(8,456 posts)Baitball Blogger
(51,571 posts)RockRaven
(18,542 posts)of MAGAt freaks wants a car like that anymore.
no_hypocrisy
(53,963 posts)and allow lead in gasoline while youre at it.
yellowcanine
(36,695 posts)jmbar2
(7,498 posts)I owned 5, one was the wood toned wagon. I enjoyed them all very much! 😆 easy to work on, cheap, and not a single one exploded!
My first was a 70 1/2 model year 71 with a sn# under 10,000
jmbar2
(7,498 posts)I had forgotten what they looked like. I still would not want to be rear-ended in one.
VGNonly
(8,297 posts)jmbar2
(7,498 posts)VGNonly
(8,297 posts)with Val Kilmer
tinrobot
(11,908 posts)It was a pile of crap.
DBoon
(24,583 posts)
yes, the picture is from 1948, but you had similar conditions until the early 1980s
tanyev
(48,453 posts)get the red out
(13,907 posts)Will we get back the wooden paneling look too?
ThoughtCriminal
(14,693 posts)At 6 MPG hwy, I think I'd prefer Cousin Eddies RV.
The Madcap
(1,653 posts)Oh, my aching back.
dalton99a
(91,484 posts)jmowreader
(52,825 posts)Isn't that what a Chevy Suburban is? The only differences between a station wagon and an SUV are about a foot of ground clearance and a driven front axle on the SUV.
haele
(14,961 posts)Boy howdy I really want one; what with gas averaging around $3 - $5 per gallon wherever it is you're located. Heck, bring back those leaded fumes while you're at it.
Give me a cream colored woodie, one with 3 on the tree or 4 on the floor. I don't care! (What, you never drove stick?)
I need that vroom, vroom feeling to take me back to my childhood.
Ah. The scent of car-sick six-year olds and naugahyde rear facing bench seats in the back of the wagon...
Duffy's a F'ing idiot.
On edit. Corrected the mpg in the header. I looked up my uncle's old Impala station wagon; averaged 10 city/12 highway.
Dad's Valiant (considered a compact vehicle) got an average of 15 mpg.
llmart
(17,213 posts)The headlines should read, "Sean Duffy wants a woodie." Let social media play with that meme for awhile.
There were a lot of off-colored jokes about owning a "woodie". You get my drift.
sakabatou
(45,611 posts)Arazi
(8,648 posts)If you want woody panels Im sure a body shop can add them (and we can laugh at you for it)
haele
(14,961 posts)I think you can get them on the ID Buzz as a trim wrap, too.
Kid Berwyn
(22,502 posts)
New!...from the Tires Down.
https://www.gr86.org/threads/1946-bulgemobiles-%E2%80%94-new%E2%80%A6from-the-tires-down.10826/
LetMyPeopleVote
(173,596 posts)Link to tweet
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Ocelot II
(128,585 posts)underpants
(194,245 posts)

NickB79
(20,199 posts)DBoon
(24,583 posts)and fueling on odd/even days?
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beaglelover
(4,405 posts)It had a V8 engine with a very smooth ride. But I loved driving my Mom's 1977 Camaro with the V8 more!
maxsolomon
(38,011 posts)about 300' long.

flvegan
(65,575 posts)Nobody wants that, Sean, you dipshit.
BTW, anyone that actually DOES want a 70s station wagon can buy one on Bring a Trailer or Cars n Bids or eBay Motors. They were shit when new, they are shit now, and they'll always be shit.