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no_hypocrisy

(53,984 posts)
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 05:44 AM Thursday

My theory why The Queen didn't rein in Andrew Mountbatten Windsor:

It's reminiscent of dilemma faced by Teddy Roosevelt when he was in the White House. He had a wayward child, Alice, who was scandalous at the time. He was confronted with trying to limit her antics.

And TR famously said, "I can either run the country or I can control Alice. I can't possibly do both."

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My theory why The Queen didn't rein in Andrew Mountbatten Windsor: (Original Post) no_hypocrisy Thursday OP
He was her favorite... hlthe2b Thursday #1
Coupled with pragmatism. no_hypocrisy Thursday #2
Royal family has a history of looking the other way when their men act badly. Irish_Dem Thursday #3
Given the royal family's first allegiance is to "The Firm," I doubt that she had a fling. 3Hotdogs Thursday #5
Ha ha. Well known that Phillip had a separate family. Irish_Dem Thursday #9
As do billionairs get the red out Thursday #12
The ultra wealthy have Bettie Thursday #13
All aristocrats malaise Thursday #17
Bad analogy: I don't recall Alice Roosevelt ever raping children. Chasstev365 Thursday #4
Seriously?? Alice's "scandalous" bevaviour at 19 was not being the demure niyad Thursday #6
Yep. OldBaldy1701E Thursday #7
I've often thought it was because of her sister Margaret rpannier Thursday #8
The Queen doesn't edhopper Thursday #10
The Queen didn't rein in Andrew because she didn't have to dlk Thursday #11
No one in the adult version of reality is a "Queen" or a "Prince" GreatGazoo Thursday #14
I believe with all due respect, PCIntern Thursday #15
Here are King Charles' conceivable powers GreatGazoo Thursday #16

Irish_Dem

(78,741 posts)
3. Royal family has a history of looking the other way when their men act badly.
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 05:55 AM
Thursday

And Andrew was the Queen's favorite.
It was rumored he was not Phillip's child.

3Hotdogs

(14,889 posts)
5. Given the royal family's first allegiance is to "The Firm," I doubt that she had a fling.
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 07:19 AM
Thursday

Irish_Dem

(78,741 posts)
9. Ha ha. Well known that Phillip had a separate family.
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 07:51 AM
Thursday

And his many affairs are documented fact.

Andrew was a child rapist and QE protected him.
Harry is a serious drug addict who beats up prostitutes and commits other crimes.

I could go on and on.

British aristocrats have a different morality than the rest of us.

get the red out

(13,910 posts)
12. As do billionairs
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 08:22 AM
Thursday

People who have everything at their fingertips want more, immoral (and often criminally immoral) activities are all that's left. Power, money (or Royalty) enables it.

Bettie

(19,185 posts)
13. The ultra wealthy have
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 09:28 AM
Thursday

different morality than the rest of us....that covers most of them.

Once you hit a certain level of wealth, rules and laws cease applying to you, unless you commit the cardinal sin of fucking over other rich people.

niyad

(129,043 posts)
6. Seriously?? Alice's "scandalous" bevaviour at 19 was not being the demure
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 07:20 AM
Thursday

little, empty-headed, silent, doll that was expected of females at the time. She did not commit crimes, she did not rape children, she did not pay off victims of crimes, since there were no crimes.

OldBaldy1701E

(9,799 posts)
7. Yep.
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 07:33 AM
Thursday

She was 'strong-willed', which was the usual description of a female that actually had a brain and was not afraid to use it.

rpannier

(24,829 posts)
8. I've often thought it was because of her sister Margaret
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 07:49 AM
Thursday

Margaret was a bright and talented woman, who was cursed as being the second child. The Queen recognized Margaret's frustrations and I've read it bothered her. I think some of the feeling/understanding was what made her so supportive of Andrew, and possibly blinded her to his failures

dlk

(13,080 posts)
11. The Queen didn't rein in Andrew because she didn't have to
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 08:19 AM
Thursday

When people are considered to be “royal” and above everyone else, accountability for crimes gets swept under the rug. Anyone who has studied history knows there has always been a very long list of royal crimes throughout the world.

GreatGazoo

(4,376 posts)
14. No one in the adult version of reality is a "Queen" or a "Prince"
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 09:34 AM
Thursday

The continued use of such terms is part of what enables bad behavior without accountability. Stripping their archaic titles only AFTER their scandals can no longer be denied seems too late and convenient.

PCIntern

(27,908 posts)
15. I believe with all due respect,
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 09:37 AM
Thursday

that you are living in an alternate Universe. We, at least to this exact moment, do not have a King or Queen, but Britain’s Monarchy is inconceivably powerful if they have to be. Make no mistake.

GreatGazoo

(4,376 posts)
16. Here are King Charles' conceivable powers
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 10:18 AM
Thursday

1. Can travel without a passport
2. Can drive with no license and at speeds above posted limits
3. Tax exempt
4. Can avoid jury duty
5. Exempt from laws regarding race, ethnic and gender equality
6. Can move to any adjacent square that is not threatened by opponent's pieces.
7. Can move inside of either Rook on rank 1 of the board if neither has previously moved.

https://time.com/6275480/king-charles-iii-privileges-laws-exempt/

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