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gab13by13

(30,887 posts)
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 10:06 AM Nov 28

Russia Is Sending Troops To Venezuela

Russia is sending troops along with advanced military systems, including air defense systems.

We have a toddler for president who is holding a loaded gun in a room full of people.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-is-sending-troops-to-venezuela/vi-AA1Rl0Ra?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=6929b78998824299a3306ba7db8f2967&ei=13

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Russia Is Sending Troops To Venezuela (Original Post) gab13by13 Nov 28 OP
Here we go. Another war for oil. travelingthrulife Nov 28 #1
It's a war for Epstein. usonian Nov 28 #3
He always wants this. If you recall, he said we should steal Iraq's oil to pay for our illegal invasion of their travelingthrulife Nov 28 #5
It's the oil. Billsdaughter Nov 28 #26
Distraction from Epstein is a side effect. ananda Nov 28 #33
With him, it's personal gain and loss aversion. usonian Nov 28 #41
No argument that any distraction will do. ananda Nov 28 #43
So what now? FalloutShelter Nov 28 #2
Create a big giant mess... Hope22 Nov 28 #9
Arggggh!!!!!! FalloutShelter Nov 28 #14
Monroe doctrine is applicable Henry203 Nov 28 #4
Until he unilaterally ends it. travelingthrulife Nov 28 #6
He has no idea who James Monroe Henry203 Nov 28 #8
The same can be said for a good portion of the US, alas. nt Shipwack Nov 28 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author Stacey Grove Nov 28 #10
I'm surprised that Russia is willing to make that sacrifice True Dough Nov 28 #7
Probably no more than token force Happy Hoosier Nov 28 #11
I bet my golf clubs gab13by13 Nov 28 #12
I just wish True Dough Nov 28 #17
Dunno about the Epstein Files, but I'm very sure the evidence of major financial crimes AZJonnie Nov 28 #18
It's probably just the crews manning complicated air defense systems CanonRay Nov 28 #24
Putin might be taking a play from Trump, for once. Shipwack Nov 28 #39
Looks like Trump is helping Zelenskyy after all. Baitball Blogger Nov 28 #13
I imagine the headline was over the top, gab13by13 Nov 28 #15
What I wonder is, if Putin succeeds in pushing Trump off Venezuela, will Baitball Blogger Nov 28 #21
Do they have any troops? Traildogbob Nov 28 #16
Trump will say this is good news, Putin will straighten things out newdeal2 Nov 28 #19
Great news! Fiendish Thingy Nov 28 #20
Well, there is that Jilly_in_VA Nov 28 #29
I thought the Wagner group was dissolved/absorbed after Putin killed the leader. Nt Fiendish Thingy Nov 28 #30
Don't bet on it Jilly_in_VA Nov 28 #32
Now led by Boo1 Nov 28 #35
I suspect this will be a ... Whiskeytide Nov 28 #22
Interesting. Along with being totally absurd. (if in fact true) stopdiggin Nov 28 #23
Trump won't go to war with his friend, smart move by Venezuela dem4decades Nov 28 #25
Poo Tin doesn't even have enough troops to wage the war he already has Blumancru Nov 28 #27
Real Headline. Putin humiliates Trump & US again bronxiteforever Nov 28 #28
Shades of Viet Nam. bif Nov 28 #31
We know where Trump's loyalty is... homegirl Nov 28 #34
Will they have to flyc ommercial to get there? Boo1 Nov 28 #36
Russia still has air defense systems? They supposedly are running out of missiles by February at current rate. TheBlackAdder Nov 28 #38
Will Venezuela be the first domino to fall? BidenRocks Nov 28 #40
A nuclear war. Justice matters. Nov 28 #42
Venezuela asked both Russia and China for military assistance airplaneman Nov 28 #44
After seeing the poor bastards they're sending to Ukraine, all I can say is Maru Kitteh Nov 28 #45
Playing with fire. Xolodno Nov 28 #46
An evil genius vs a guy that calls women ugly, stupid and piggy Norbert Nov 28 #47

usonian

(22,895 posts)
3. It's a war for Epstein.
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 10:11 AM
Nov 28

Wag the dog. Trump doesn't know oil from water.

He knows what he did and doesn't want to pay for it.

travelingthrulife

(4,075 posts)
5. He always wants this. If you recall, he said we should steal Iraq's oil to pay for our illegal invasion of their
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 10:15 AM
Nov 28

country.
He also knows about the minerals there. He has to please the fossil fuel lovers.

He also doesn't want the Epstein files out.

Narcissist. He wants it all.

Billsdaughter

(114 posts)
26. It's the oil.
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 11:35 AM
Nov 28

No other reason. It steals. That's the sole reason for existing. It has been enriching and stealing for itself and its ner-do-well family.

ananda

(34,178 posts)
33. Distraction from Epstein is a side effect.
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 11:55 AM
Nov 28

The ultimate purpose is to get control of
Latin America and plunder its resources.

usonian

(22,895 posts)
41. With him, it's personal gain and loss aversion.
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 01:03 PM
Nov 28

YMMV, but I suspect that with Epstein disclosures, especially "if" he is the head honcho of the worldwide sex and extortion ring (1), he stands to lose everything. And even Argentina might be hard pressed to take him (Saudi and Qatar, who knows?)

Marginal gain by attacking Venezuela but 100% loss if he fails to distract from L'Affaire Epstein. (2)

Just my two trillion dollar's worth.


(1) https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220735608
Just hear me out, what if he's not just in the Epstein files
But actually a part of the trafficking ring. He ran the Rump Modeling Agency and owned the Miss Teen America Pagent.

(2) With disclosures to come, not just the ones sealed in the ion trap at DOJ, he seems to be losing this Armageddon battle.

ananda

(34,178 posts)
43. No argument that any distraction will do.
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 01:52 PM
Nov 28

However, I think Latin America is a powerplay
to get control of resources, especially oil.

Greenland and Canada didn't quite work out.

Hope22

(4,381 posts)
9. Create a big giant mess...
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 10:18 AM
Nov 28

And then proclaim that we can’t change presidents in a time of war!

Response to Henry203 (Reply #4)

True Dough

(25,432 posts)
7. I'm surprised that Russia is willing to make that sacrifice
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 10:16 AM
Nov 28

when they are struggling mightily to overtake the Ukrainians.

Happy Hoosier

(9,334 posts)
11. Probably no more than token force
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 10:25 AM
Nov 28

Just enough to ensure Trump fills his diaper. Not that I favor this ridiculous Venezuela gambit. But Trump is
terrified of Putin.

gab13by13

(30,887 posts)
12. I bet my golf clubs
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 10:27 AM
Nov 28

that Putin has a copy of the Epstein files. Putin owns Krasnov so I'm not sure what this move by Putin signifies.

He is becoming extremely unpopular in Russia, maybe he needs a diversion away from Ukraine?

True Dough

(25,432 posts)
17. I just wish
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 10:51 AM
Nov 28

he'd be removed from office. I'm talking about Russia (but I understand perfectly if you thought I was referring to the U.S.)

AZJonnie

(2,498 posts)
18. Dunno about the Epstein Files, but I'm very sure the evidence of major financial crimes
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 11:14 AM
Nov 28

e.g. blatant and illegal money-laundering of the oligarchs money (some of them no doubt under US or international sanctions), most likely over DECADES is definitely at Putin's fingertips, as well as some very compromising letters and/or recordings of phone calls where IQ47 is professing his fealty to Russia over the USA.

And Epstein was also well aware of what he was up to in this regard.

CanonRay

(15,866 posts)
24. It's probably just the crews manning complicated air defense systems
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 11:31 AM
Nov 28

I doubt it's ground combat troops.

Shipwack

(2,956 posts)
39. Putin might be taking a play from Trump, for once.
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 12:54 PM
Nov 28

Distracting from the war in Ukraine by talking about shipping arms to Venezuela.

Not to mention setting things up to get Venezuelan support for Russia, both diplomatically and economically.

gab13by13

(30,887 posts)
15. I imagine the headline was over the top,
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 10:37 AM
Nov 28

Russia is mainly sending its air defense system and people to train how to use it. I seriously doubt that Russia will send any grunt soldiers.

Baitball Blogger

(51,571 posts)
21. What I wonder is, if Putin succeeds in pushing Trump off Venezuela, will
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 11:21 AM
Nov 28

Venezuela give him foot soldiers in return?

Not that I expect it will go well for him because those soldiers already know that anyone who fights for Russia becomes cannon fodder and winter is coming.

Traildogbob

(12,326 posts)
16. Do they have any troops?
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 10:40 AM
Nov 28

Can they spare any from killing Ukrainian women and children?
I guess NATO will not protect us from this takeover.
Where are OUR Liberator's? Like the Cheney Admin said, you will be welcomed as such.
Better hurry.

Jilly_in_VA

(13,659 posts)
29. Well, there is that
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 11:45 AM
Nov 28

I wonder if these are as sad-looking as the ones he is sending to Ukraine, or if they are Wagner Group?

Jilly_in_VA

(13,659 posts)
32. Don't bet on it
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 11:48 AM
Nov 28

They've either got a new leader of Putin's choosing, or they've been absorbed into the Russian military.

Whiskeytide

(4,618 posts)
22. I suspect this will be a ...
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 11:28 AM
Nov 28

…” we will stop our support of Venezuela if you’ll stop your support of Ukraine” deal in a couple months. It will be Fo卐ified into a “great deal worthy of a Peace Prize”.

stopdiggin

(14,839 posts)
23. Interesting. Along with being totally absurd. (if in fact true)
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 11:28 AM
Nov 28

Theater of the absurd - on about a hundred different levels.

Blumancru

(138 posts)
27. Poo Tin doesn't even have enough troops to wage the war he already has
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 11:39 AM
Nov 28

How will he spare any meaningful number?

bronxiteforever

(11,013 posts)
28. Real Headline. Putin humiliates Trump & US again
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 11:39 AM
Nov 28

Great move MAGA Mike and the GOP idiot Caucus. You too little Marco.
Meanwhile you are trying to destroy Europe and Ukraine. GOP you are clowns.

homegirl

(1,907 posts)
34. We know where Trump's loyalty is...
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 12:36 PM
Nov 28

In 1987 Trump ran $130K of full page ads aggressively attacking
NATO and he did that during the Cold War, right after returning
from his very first visit to Moscow.

Trump’s trip to Moscow in 1987 was organized by the
KGB’s travel agency ‘INTOURIST.’

GET IT?

Boo1

(101 posts)
36. Will they have to flyc ommercial to get there?
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 12:45 PM
Nov 28

I doubt Russia has any military transport capable of reaching Venazuela.

TheBlackAdder

(29,915 posts)
38. Russia still has air defense systems? They supposedly are running out of missiles by February at current rate.
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 12:52 PM
Nov 28

BidenRocks

(2,620 posts)
40. Will Venezuela be the first domino to fall?
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 12:55 PM
Nov 28

Excuse me! This is where I entered the world in 1955.
Same bullshit, only this time the propaganda reason is drugs.
If someone ODs on drugs I do not care!
Like other things chumps maga bans, like women's healthcare.
Your life, your business. Freedom!

What's next? A global war on prostitution?

Justice matters.

(9,204 posts)
42. A nuclear war.
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 01:17 PM
Nov 28

The easy to make connections to the predictions in his own for-profit bible anti-christ in the white house and his band of greedy, selfish, moronic oligarchs are doing everything they can to kill us all, themselves included.

airplaneman

(1,362 posts)
44. Venezuela asked both Russia and China for military assistance
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 03:11 PM
Nov 28

Both countries obliged to help Venezuela against the US.

-Airplane

Maru Kitteh

(31,094 posts)
45. After seeing the poor bastards they're sending to Ukraine, all I can say is
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 03:34 PM
Nov 28

okay.

I don’t think their “troops” will be much good in Venezuela, but that’s more bodies and machinery that’s NOT in Ukraine.

Xolodno

(7,260 posts)
46. Playing with fire.
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 05:18 PM
Nov 28

Maduro already had 1000 Russian mercenaries protecting him. And Venezuela was already getting military assistance from both Russia and China. They are just raising the ante. Kill Russians or Chinese there, they will retaliate somewhere else. Or worse...

Whoever is advising Trump on this, doesn't have a fucking clue.

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