is this elimination of professional status part of project hellscape (2025)?

[AmandaRuth]

I've trying to do some research on this, it doesn't seem to be specifically addressed, and I can't make heads or tails of some of the gobbledygook, but Project Hellscape does seem aimed at dragging women back to the kitchens and bedrooms, and the professions targeted seem to be mainly occupied by women. Other than an excuse to reduce salaries, what exactly is the reasoning behind this? I question, because I have some friends that are nurses and they are PISSED. Like flames coming out of the ears pissed.

I am interested in y'alls thoughts, but bear with me, I am off to the grocery store, due to poor planning, and since it's the day before the big day, I may not get out alive (LOLOLOL)

AmandaRuth

[LAS14]

1. Could you explain what you're referring to? Nt

[Skittles]

4. ...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/11/21/what-considered-professional-degree-explained/87396245007/

[Silent Type]

2. trump admin really screwed up their messaging. I think they tried to divide graduate studies into high cost like

doctor, dentist, lawyers, eligible for $200,000 in graduate loans vs. those eligible for $100K.

Nurse advanced degrees are much less than say docs. That’s just a fact.

But, they shouldn’t have used the term “professional.” I’ve worked with plenty of BSNs who were much more professional than doctors or lawyers.

[SamuelTheThird]

5. Why are theologians eligible for 200k and nurses not ?

This is more than a messaging snafu

[Silent Type]

6. Because the great white Jesus would be offended. Here's a list of those eligible for $200K--

Eligible Programs
The following eleven specific fields are currently defined as "professional degree" programs under the new rule:
Medicine (M.D.)
Pharmacy (Pharm.D.)
Dentistry (D.D.S. or D.M.D.)
Optometry (O.D.)
Law (L.L.B. or J.D.)
Veterinary medicine (D.V.M.)
Osteopathic medicine (D.O.)
Podiatry (D.P.M., D.P., or Pod.D.)
Chiropractic (D.C. or D.C.M.)
Theology (M.Div. or M.H.L.)
Clinical psychology (Psy.D. or Ph.D.)
———-
Personally, I would have excluded Chiropractic and Theology.

[NotHardly]

8. Ain't that the truth!

[ecstatic]

3. Apparently so, I just saw a YouTube where the poster read a p25 "study"

That basically says the government is making it too easy for Americans to go to college. College takes away from time that could be spent getting married and having children. The study was asserting that certain jobs shouldn't even require college anymore.

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[TommyT139]

7. A key point about Project 2025

The document we have access to is merely the tip of of the iceberg -- very detailed, but just the "executive summary" of a plan so detailed that tens of hours of video trainings were made for those interested in pursuing paid work with these efforts under a trumpist regime.

But broadly, declassifying these professions (as you noted, many being lower paid because traditionally held by women) means the Dept of Ed doesn't need to oversee financial loans at such great amounts. That means less "work" for the Dept of Ed which helps it taper out of existence.