When Pope Leo is a principle force standing against the evisceration of US democracy

[pat_k]

Last edited Sun Nov 23, 2025, 05:24 AM - Edit history (1)

things are getting seriously strange.

Who can tame Trump? An unlikely candidate is emerging: the Catholic church
Simon Tisdall
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/nov/23/who-can-tame-trump-pope-leo-xiv-catholic-church-usa

[pat_k]

1. This goes so far beyond political or religious affiliation.

Chicago-born Leo, increasingly outspoken in opposing Trump’s “inhuman” policies since his election in May, now stands at the head of this clerical revolt.

Earlier this month, he demanded ICE rethink its demonization of migrants – more than 2 million “illegal aliens” have been involuntarily removed this year and record numbers detained, official figures indicate.

He criticised lethal US strikes on suspected drug smugglers off Venezuela, warning violence would fail.

And he has challenged Trump’s climate-crisis denial, telling Cop30 that God’s creation is “crying out” for action.

Organized opposition to Trump among Catholic and other faith groups on the “Christian left” is spreading at grassroots level.

From New Jersey to California, parish priests and pastors have led local protests, boycotts and initiatives to counter ICE’s depredations. “Catholics are particularly well positioned to lead such a movement,” wrote Maria J Stephan, a specialist in non-violent civil resistance.

[LuvLoogie]

2. I don't understand the wording of your opening post

given your listing of Pope Leo's positions in the following post.

[JI7]

3. Yes, the title makes it seem like Leo is getting in the way of the Democratic Party agenda

[pat_k]

15. It seems someone accessed my account

Unless I've developed multiple personality disorder, the OP wasn't posted by me. I took a shot at correcting, and left the follow up post, but I didn't actually post either. I've changed my password, which has been the same for about 20 years, so....

I'm baffled. Seems a strange thing to post with a hack.

[pat_k]

9. Edited, but I'm trying to figure out how this was posted. I've changed my password.

[RandySF]

4. Title contradicts body.

[pat_k]

10. It seems someone accessed my account.

Unless I've developed multiple personality disorder, the OP wasn't posted by me. I took a shot at correcting, and left the follow up post, but I didn't actually post either. I've changed my password, which has been the same for about 20 years, so....

I'm baffled.

[Raine]

5. I don't understand your title wording 🤔nt

[pat_k]

11. It seems someone accessed my account??

Unless I've developed multiple personality disorder, the OP wasn't posted by me. I took a shot at correcting, and left the follow up post, but I didn't actually post either. I've changed my password, which has been the same for about 20 years, so....

I'm baffled. Seems a strange thing to post with a hack.

[ananda]

6. You mean Republican party -- change your title

now

[pat_k]

12. It seems someone accessed my account.

Unless I've developed multiple personality disorder, the OP wasn't posted by me. I took a shot at correcting, and left the follow up post, but I didn't actually post either. I've changed my password, which has been the same for about 20 years, so....

I'm baffled. A strange thing to post with a hack.

[ananda]

22. Wow. I'm glad it wasn'r you.

...

[pnwmom]

7. Pope Leo isn't standing against all the positions of the American party.

He agrees with us about the poor, about immigrants, and the environment, for example.

[pat_k]

13. It seems someone accessed my account

Unless I've developed multiple personality disorder, the OP wasn't posted by me. I took a shot at correcting, and left the follow up post, but I didn't actually post either. I've changed my password, which has been the same for about 20 years, so....

I'm baffled. Seems a strange thing to post with a hack.

[pnwmom]

20. Whoa. That's scary!

[pat_k]

21. It is just so weird I haven't gotten to scary.

It is such an odd thing to have posted -- with detail in the reply to the OP. That's not how people post (at least it's not how I post). Like a strange test balloon. I looked up and found a recent article so I decided to edit the weird OP to make sense.

Anyway, I probably should have just deleted, but somehow deleting without explanation didn't seem right.

What is a bit sad is that I've developed courses on cybersecurity for various corporate clients. I have no excuse for being so lax with my non-financial accounts. As I said, I don't think I've updated my DU password for about 20 years and it was a wimpy password to start with. But I don't actually get what someone would gain by trying to post as me. Like I wouldn't notice??

IDK.

Still baffled in Seattle.

[rampartd]

8. pat I agree with your explanation in the 1st reply

the op needs a little work.

[pat_k]

14. It seems someone accessed my account

Unless I've developed multiple personality disorder, the OP wasn't posted by me. I took a shot at correcting, and left the follow up post, but I didn't actually post either. I've changed my password, which has been the same for about 20 years, so....

I'm baffled. Seems a strange thing to post with a hack.

[rampartd]

16. it sure sounded wrong

i guess change of password seems warranted.

I'm a fan of the pope, one of the few leaders of any kind opposing the hostile takeover of planet earth.

[pat_k]

17. I'm still baffled to see these posts on "My Posts"..

I wasn't sure what to do. Delete the OP without explanation? That didn't seem right.

So I just changed my password and edited to be more "me"...

I just don't know what to make of it. A weird, but relatively innocuous post. Perhaps someone taking a shot at posting as "me" to see if they could get away with it?

Or perhaps I did lose my mind.

IDK.

[Rhiannon12866]

18. I did wonder, you might run this concern by EarlG.

[pat_k]

19. Good tip. Thanks!