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WOW! Rachel was @ Cheney's funeral!!!!!! (Original Post) elleng Nov 2025 OP
Gross. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2025 #1
To support Liz, perhaps, and/or her sister. elleng Nov 2025 #2
That''s nice of her. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2025 #3
Well, i hope anyone you have considered a friend - will think of you and not their disdain for your hlthe2b Nov 2025 #19
So we hate her now? And call her names? Srkdqltr Nov 2025 #4
We are not small. elleng Nov 2025 #6
I don't watch cable news so I don't care about her either way. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2025 #8
Not me. electric_blue68 Nov 2025 #14
I guess some would have us hate on Biden, Gore, Harris, and Dr. Fauci as well, Ocelot II Nov 2025 #28
Kirking him yankee87 Nov 2025 #5
He was my #1 object of hatred, until tmp showed his little prick. elleng Nov 2025 #7
Indeed. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2025 #9
Well now he's dead MorbidButterflyTat Nov 2025 #10
Yes, It was most important to oppose him during the 2000 elections JI7 Nov 2025 #11
I think it's gross he was allowed a funeral. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2025 #21
She's been friends with... Mike Nelson Nov 2025 #12
she used to have Pat Buchanan on her show regularly, in the early days eShirl Nov 2025 #13
also she called him Uncle Pat with genuine fondness. :) nt Raine Nov 2025 #17
Is Buchanan still alive? Cherrycheeks Nov 2025 #20
I was thinking about "Dick" today. I thought he was Satan's understudy....the war and weapons of mass destruction ... albacore Nov 2025 #15
Cheney was evil, but trump is in a league of his own, indeed. elleng Nov 2025 #16
Cheney was a War Criminal SamuelTheThird Nov 2025 #18
People do go to funerals out of respect of other people in the family etc. Jbraybarten Nov 2025 #22
Anthony Fauci, Rachel Maddow and James Carville seen sitting together at Dick Cheney's funeral in DC. LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2025 #23
Watch this space!!! Prairie Gates Nov 2025 #24
Him and Rove made tRump possible. Blue Full Moon Nov 2025 #25
Obviously she is more broad/open minded than a lot here Srkdqltr Nov 2025 #26
It's a shame that these closed minded individuals are disrespecting this war criminal. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2025 #34
Kick orangecrush Nov 2025 #27
It's called decency. orangecrush Nov 2025 #29
It's a big club Stacey Grove Nov 2025 #30
I would have gone, but only to make sure he was dead. surfered Nov 2025 #31
Nuance is for the elite. TheProle Nov 2025 #32
Well said flamingdem Nov 2025 #33
Rachel is still a journalist, is she not? Beaverhausen Nov 2025 #35
Yes, she writes, and she studies. elleng Nov 2025 #36

ForgoTheConsequence

(5,186 posts)
3. That''s nice of her.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 12:34 AM
Nov 2025

Perhaps we should have a funeral for the 200,000+ Iraqis and the 4,500 service members killed in his illegal war?

hlthe2b

(113,954 posts)
19. Well, i hope anyone you have considered a friend - will think of you and not their disdain for your
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 06:30 AM
Nov 2025

deceased family member at a time such as this. Funerals are for the living, after all. Not to mention, Rachel reported for many years on Cheney's culpability for the Iraq war and other offenses. She chose to be there yesterday out of due respect for Liz--someone Rachel would not have agreed with in terms of policy at all, either, but who stood up for those Capitol police and the Constitution on Jan 6 and thereafter.

As you demonstrate, many Dem/Progressives are criticized because, unlike our RW opponents, we can see shades of gray. There is a time and place for black and white thinking, but when it comes to supporting family members who had nothing to do with what made their deceased family members so offensive for so long and so many, I think a bit of empathy is not too much to expect. So, you say, what about the Trump family when their ultimate disgrace finally dies? Well, if you can tell me one thing any of that crowd did to help the American people, defend democracy and the Constitution--as Liz did--then I might agree with you. But, I'd bet the farm that you cannot. Thus, they will get nothing in defense of the horrific man that was their father, husband, or other family member-- even as he disgraces this country for the very last time. As such, I see the situations entirely differently.

ForgoTheConsequence

(5,186 posts)
8. I don't watch cable news so I don't care about her either way.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 12:38 AM
Nov 2025

I used to listen to her on the radio when that was a thing.

I will call Cheney a war criminal, though. I'm not willing to rewrite history and cover for Bush and Cheney, like so many others. The Iraq War was illegal, immoral, and those responsible will never see consequences. That is a shame.

Ocelot II

(130,528 posts)
28. I guess some would have us hate on Biden, Gore, Harris, and Dr. Fauci as well,
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 04:15 PM
Nov 2025

since they were also there. Or better yet, we can try not to be petty.

yankee87

(2,824 posts)
5. Kirking him
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 12:35 AM
Nov 2025

Like Kirk, whitewashing Cheney’s legacy. He was piece of 💩 and was responsible for millions of deaths. Fuck him and his daughter.

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,507 posts)
10. Well now he's dead
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 12:56 AM
Nov 2025

Maybe it's gross President Biden and Jill were there? VP Harris? Al Gore?

Funerals are for the family and friends of the deceased. They deserve support and respect.

ForgoTheConsequence

(5,186 posts)
21. I think it's gross he was allowed a funeral.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 08:04 AM
Nov 2025

He should have died in prison. I'll save my grief for the hundreds of thousands that died in his illegal war. I hope that Haliburton money can buy a nice place in Hell.

Mike Nelson

(10,943 posts)
12. She's been friends with...
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 04:05 AM
Nov 2025

... conservatives, all along. I think she was close with one of the big media moguls- maybe Roger Ailes? I was surprised to see learn was close with Greta Van Susteren and, I heard, other conservative TV hosts. I think she is a Cheney family friend.

eShirl

(20,255 posts)
13. she used to have Pat Buchanan on her show regularly, in the early days
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 04:25 AM
Nov 2025

she'd introduce him saying, "It's Pat!" (reference to an old SNL skit)

albacore

(2,747 posts)
15. I was thinking about "Dick" today. I thought he was Satan's understudy....the war and weapons of mass destruction ...
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 04:28 AM
Nov 2025

...and all those dead innocents.
Now he seems like a minor figure...compared to trump.
By withholding aid and medical care and food aid overseas as well as this country, trump may rack up a larger body count than Cheney before he takes the dirt nap.
Cheney was evil, but trump is in a league of his own.

ForgoTheConsequence

(5,186 posts)
34. It's a shame that these closed minded individuals are disrespecting this war criminal.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 06:05 PM
Nov 2025

We should make "war criminals" a protected class.

Stacey Grove

(156 posts)
30. It's a big club
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 04:28 PM
Nov 2025

and we aren't in it.

These people are all part of the same world and financial "ecosystem."

The one most of us ARE NOT a part of.

TheProle

(3,980 posts)
32. Nuance is for the elite.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 04:39 PM
Nov 2025

We are considered foot soldiers. Party leaders and party-affiliated talking heads retain the freedom to rub elbows with the same people that they have a vested interest in making us hate.

The result is that the former "evolve" and "show class" while we are left to froth at the mouth and carry forward the villainy narratives.

The elite feel no obligation to mitigate nor release us from that specific hatred as it remains useful as a general tactic so, in many case, we end up with bewildered folks saying, "Wait, I thought I was supposed to hate them!"

I prefer to treat the political opposition as just that and not commit my emotional state to the cause of people who will then go glad-hand the very people they train us to hate.

flamingdem

(40,891 posts)
33. Well said
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 04:59 PM
Nov 2025

We are supposed to carry the narrative that they themselves do not due to friendships with benefits.

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