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Swede

(39,491 posts)
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 03:44 PM Nov 2025

"Non-Christians living among us are...not entitled to political equality."

The Thiel-linked Intercollegiate Studies Institute (ISI) hosted a panel featuring Stephen Wolfe (author of the Case for Christian Nationalism) who wrote that “Non-Christians living among us are…not entitled to political equality.” ISI supports over 70 student-run publications across the country. 1/

Jenny Cohn (@jennycohn.bsky.social) 2025-11-17T18:46:54.086Z

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"Non-Christians living among us are...not entitled to political equality." (Original Post) Swede Nov 2025 OP
Well, that is traditional. Not the newfangled Constitution from the 18th century, but the OG 17th century intoleration muriel_volestrangler Nov 2025 #1
That sounds way more fun jfz9580m Nov 2025 #32
Despicable creeps...More like the case for Christian bullshit-alism... wcmagumba Nov 2025 #2
Read the effin constitution shitheads malaise Nov 2025 #3
Agree..just saw you ahead of me.. Deuxcents Nov 2025 #5
Roy Torcaso and the Supremes have said otherwise. no_hypocrisy Nov 2025 #7
The current Court feels precedent is irrelevant. nt Shipwack Nov 2025 #21
Written with the recent memory of horrific European religious wars DBoon Nov 2025 #11
Ah, the good old days COL Mustard Nov 2025 #27
It's obvious they do not understand or want to live by our Constitution..which is giving them their right to spew this Deuxcents Nov 2025 #4
So obvious malaise Nov 2025 #6
Yeah Jilly_in_VA Nov 2025 #8
To hell with that. GoCubsGo Nov 2025 #13
Even better malaise Nov 2025 #14
Do these people hear themselves? Scrivener7 Nov 2025 #9
Tragically, yes. They mean it. pat_k Nov 2025 #31
What is going to happen in the event Christianity collapses? And in its collapse, so goes any country without adequate RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Nov 2025 #10
I knew it was just a matter of time. Lars39 Nov 2025 #12
I gave up on Christianity when I was 12 and the priest gave me the "God works in Ping Tung Nov 2025 #15
Priests today will tell you that God revealed himself to humans 4,000 years ago, and told them. ancianita Nov 2025 #18
I always thought the "mysterious ways" gambit was BS. A simple "I don't know" would have sufficed. patphil Nov 2025 #26
Ping Tung. I asked the same question. Priest was talking about Alpha and Omega. I asked "how could something come from debm55 Nov 2025 #39
Ignorant is what they are...and stupid. Try reading the constitution...losers Demsrule86 Nov 2025 #16
Deez nutz are not entitled to decide who is or is not entitled. ancianita Nov 2025 #17
How does Thiel think Christian Nationalists view his sexuality? ChicagoTeamster Nov 2025 #19
Probably one (or more) of these thoughts: Shipwack Nov 2025 #22
Yeah, his 35 year old boy toy accidently TexasBushwhacker Nov 2025 #29
I think he also has a husband and adopted kids (maybe he donated, who knows) ChicagoTeamster Nov 2025 #42
Yes, he is married and has been with his husband a long time TexasBushwhacker Nov 2025 #43
Someone should let them know about the FBI Director Hassler Nov 2025 #20
These privileged little shitstains Mr. Evil Nov 2025 #23
Should be noted angrychair Nov 2025 #24
I don't think they realize that they're saying they aren't entitled to political equality. patphil Nov 2025 #25
The person who said that thinks they are Christian TNNurse Nov 2025 #28
Sick fucks. spanone Nov 2025 #30
If they were real christians they would be acting more like Jesus and feeding the hungry Tribetime Nov 2025 #33
Nat-C Or Nazi No Matter The Name The Sordid Depravity's Always The Same; MayReasonRule Nov 2025 #34
The Christian Taliban. nt Hotler Nov 2025 #35
They are just missing an S at the end of their name newdeal2 Nov 2025 #37
Another right-wing purity test to be an American. Emile Nov 2025 #36
Christianity I_UndergroundPanther Nov 2025 #38
The ISI?! I remember when they were basically a CIA front... keep_left Nov 2025 #40
Traitors to the U.S. Constitution Mysterian Nov 2025 #41

muriel_volestrangler

(106,207 posts)
1. Well, that is traditional. Not the newfangled Constitution from the 18th century, but the OG 17th century intoleration
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 03:51 PM
Nov 2025

when if you the wrong sect, you were out of the colony. And if that didn't work, there was always executing witches for dallying with Satan ...

jfz9580m

(17,188 posts)
32. That sounds way more fun
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 06:30 PM
Nov 2025

“ witches for dallying with Satan”
Would you happen to know how one may sign up for this?

Incidentally, The Satanic Temple is one of the groups helping women get abortions after these creeps deep-sixed Roe v Wade:

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/us-news/satanic-abortion-clinic-named-honour-35394904

Satanists have marked Donald Trump's birthday by opening another 'free' abortion clinic in the US.

The President's Yuge Most Beautiful Tremendous Satanic Abortion Clinic opened its doors on June 14 in Maine, as the massive military parade took place in Washington DC on the same day as the Orange Manbaby's 79th birthday.

Spokesman Lucien Greaves said: "With an average cost of $91 per procedure, we provide the lowest-cost option for pregnancy terminations in the entire state. We’ve also helped cover travel and medication costs for those facing financial hardship, and we’re honored to have made a positive impact on so many lives during what can be a difficult time.”


Good for them..they are doing a real social service.

wcmagumba

(6,177 posts)
2. Despicable creeps...More like the case for Christian bullshit-alism...
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 03:53 PM
Nov 2025

Thanks, but no-thanks you bunch of theo-racists...

no_hypocrisy

(54,904 posts)
7. Roy Torcaso and the Supremes have said otherwise.
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 04:01 PM
Nov 2025

No discrimination against non-Christians and Non-believers.

DBoon

(24,983 posts)
11. Written with the recent memory of horrific European religious wars
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 04:13 PM
Nov 2025
The Thirty Years' War,[h] fought primarily in Central Europe between 1618 and 1648, was one of the most destructive conflicts in human history. An estimated 4.5 to 8 million soldiers and civilians died from the effects of battle, famine, or disease, with parts of Germany reporting population declines of over 50%.[19] Related conflicts include the Eighty Years' War, the War of the Mantuan Succession, the Franco-Spanish War, the Torstenson War, the Dutch–Portuguese War, and the Portuguese Restoration War.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty_Years%27_War

Deuxcents

(26,914 posts)
4. It's obvious they do not understand or want to live by our Constitution..which is giving them their right to spew this
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 03:55 PM
Nov 2025

GoCubsGo

(34,913 posts)
13. To hell with that.
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 04:34 PM
Nov 2025

Send him, and the rest of his ilk to ADX Florence, where they belong.

pat_k

(13,371 posts)
31. Tragically, yes. They mean it.
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 06:30 PM
Nov 2025

So much for the table of fellowship welcoming everyone.

These Un-Christian, Un-American people believe in one thing, power. And for them money equals power.

If their grasping greed manifested in their physical appearance they would all be disgusting Jabba the Huts

And they've even created their own little "rules" where obscene power and money are God given, and therefore, the poor must be "bad" and the wealthy must be "good," however many horribly evil things those "good" people do. It must be God's will and all...

RedWhiteBlueIsRacist

(2,034 posts)
10. What is going to happen in the event Christianity collapses? And in its collapse, so goes any country without adequate
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 04:08 PM
Nov 2025

separation of Church and State. The domino effect will also take out Judaism, and perhaps the collapse of Israel (who's gonna get their nukes?).

Ping Tung

(4,370 posts)
15. I gave up on Christianity when I was 12 and the priest gave me the "God works in
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 04:45 PM
Nov 2025

mysterious ways" run-around when I asked him where did God came from?

At 12 I thought that was a reasonable question. I still do.

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
18. Priests today will tell you that God revealed himself to humans 4,000 years ago, and told them.
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 05:23 PM
Nov 2025

But tho OP has nothing to do with Christianity. It's just their patriarchal sickness that still sickens too much of humanity. Because patriarchy was around thousands of years before Abraham, Moses or Jesus ever showed up.

patphil

(9,067 posts)
26. I always thought the "mysterious ways" gambit was BS. A simple "I don't know" would have sufficed.
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 06:17 PM
Nov 2025

I hung on a little longer; left the Catholic Church in my mid twenties.

debm55

(60,603 posts)
39. Ping Tung. I asked the same question. Priest was talking about Alpha and Omega. I asked "how could something come from
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 02:04 PM
Nov 2025

nothing?" He told me I must have faith. I was 12 and I didn't understand. I thought it was an easy question. Never asked a question in Religion class again.

ChicagoTeamster

(951 posts)
19. How does Thiel think Christian Nationalists view his sexuality?
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 05:36 PM
Nov 2025

If you’re going to craft excuses for twisting the texts of Constitution and Bible to justify your bigotry, you open the door for other zealots to craft excuses for their bigotry as well.

Shipwack

(3,064 posts)
22. Probably one (or more) of these thoughts:
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 06:02 PM
Nov 2025

1) Rules for me, but not for thee.
2) He’s a sinner, but God sent him to us so we can use his dirty, dirty money to fulfill His will.
3) They’ll ignore it until they get everything they want, then put him into a conversion camp along with the other “degenerates “.

As for opening doors, they either don’t care or haven’t thought about the hungry leopards yet.

“You get a bigotry, and you get a bigotry…!”

Hassler

(4,921 posts)
20. Someone should let them know about the FBI Director
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 05:39 PM
Nov 2025

Who's "involved" with a good, wholesome, white American woman, and country music singer.

Mr. Evil

(3,457 posts)
23. These privileged little shitstains
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 06:03 PM
Nov 2025

are nothing but racists, would-be rapists and killers. They just want to have their way and what they want like children in a toy store. They want absolutely no accountability for white male christians. They want a country that's more akin to Augusto Pinochet's Chile in the 1970's and 80's. Brutality, torture, murder.

angrychair

(12,280 posts)
24. Should be noted
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 06:05 PM
Nov 2025

Belief in and participation in organized religion has been falling dramatically over the last couple of years per a recent Gallup poll.

patphil

(9,067 posts)
25. I don't think they realize that they're saying they aren't entitled to political equality.
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 06:14 PM
Nov 2025

After all, they've certainly demonstrated that they aren't Christians. One has to follow the teachings of Jesus to qualify, and they don't.

TNNurse

(7,541 posts)
28. The person who said that thinks they are Christian
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 06:20 PM
Nov 2025

and have indeed missed the point entirely.

Tribetime

(7,145 posts)
33. If they were real christians they would be acting more like Jesus and feeding the hungry
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 06:36 PM
Nov 2025

Giving shelter to the homeless. Loving your neighbors

I_UndergroundPanther

(13,369 posts)
38. Christianity
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 01:58 PM
Nov 2025

Was originally Gnostic. Gnostic texts were written closer to the time Jesus allegedly existed than the Dead Sea scrolls and other texts used in modern edited and re edited bibles

These assholes would be rejected as evil incarnate servants of the archon by the gnostic version of xtianity. Where Jesus says the kingdom of heaven is inside you.

keep_left

(3,210 posts)
40. The ISI?! I remember when they were basically a CIA front...
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 02:32 PM
Nov 2025

...for recruiting college kids, supported by National Review types like the late William F Buckley Jr. Now they're just another megaphone for Thiel? Well, I guess I should have figured that when I saw the execrable Michael "Know-Less" Knowles on the ISI college circuit giving his usual pseudo-intellectual talks; the one I saw had something to do with Dante's Divine Comedy, although Knowles' logic was generally inscrutable.

Mysterian

(6,482 posts)
41. Traitors to the U.S. Constitution
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 02:52 PM
Nov 2025

In a rational world, these people would be investigated for seditious conspiracy.

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