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AverageOldGuy

(3,828 posts)
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 11:56 PM Nov 2025

The two dogs that did not bark today

I assume we all are familiar with the Sherlock Holmes case solved by "the dog that did not bark." Sherlock wondered why the dog did not bark when and intruder committed a crime -- elementary, my Dear Watson -- because the intruder was the dog's owner, thus, the dog did not bark at the person he knew.

Tonight two dogs did not bark at information that is pouring out, little by little tying Trump directly to Jeffrey Epstein and little girls. And why are these dogs not barking? You decide.

The first dog that is not barking, as pointed out by Lawrence O'Donnell, is JD Vance. Lawrence reminded us that Gerald Ford sat silent as Nixon's crimes caught up with him because Ford knew he would be next in the Oval Office -- soon. JD is standing strangely silent as the Epstein files come pouring out of Congress.

The second dog that is not barking is Trump himself. Tonight as more and more Epstein emails are being released, Trump signed the bill ending the government shutdown. We would expect Trump to sign the bill then rave on and one about the great victory over the Democrats. Trump signed the bill, stood up, and left the room, ignoring the press.

Two dogs did not bark tonight -- because both of them know the truth -- and that truth will sink Trump.

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The two dogs that did not bark today (Original Post) AverageOldGuy Nov 2025 OP
Ol' JV is licking his chops knowing he will be king soon. chicoescuela Nov 2025 #1
King of the couches! DaBronx Nov 2025 #2
Mega points for the Sherlock Holmes analogy! LearnedHand Nov 2025 #3
Thanks for explaining the reference to "the dog that did not bark." Sogo Nov 2025 #4
Under what circumstances would the Epstein files lead to his being evicted from the White House? 3Hotdogs Nov 2025 #5
They can force him to resign if revelations/optics are bad enough. Got Nixon. But trump has survived this crud before. Silent Type Nov 2025 #6
His base will not be spooked by this. Frasier Balzov Nov 2025 #7
I think Fiddlelady11 Nov 2025 #8
Argentina was good enough for the nazis. rubbersole Nov 2025 #14
Democrats can win without ANY of 'Trump's base'--- Jack Valentino Nov 2025 #9
+1. If we convert a few that swung trump late and those who sat on side, we win. A 5% swing would be huge, Silent Type Nov 2025 #11
His base are the ones that were pushing all things Epstein to begin with. W_HAMILTON Nov 2025 #15
I'd rather keep the stupid fuck there, for as long as he lives--- Jack Valentino Nov 2025 #10
Would They Be The Norman Conquest Circumstances? ColoringFool Nov 2025 #12
Here's Lawrence O'Donnell, for those who missed it: Rhiannon12866 Nov 2025 #13
Yep. Makes ya wonder. johnp3907 Nov 2025 #16
"Ol' JV is licking his chops knowing he will be king soon." J_William_Ryan Nov 2025 #17
Old dogs still bark BaronChocula Nov 2025 #18
... and I CANNOT wait!!! calimary Nov 2025 #19

DaBronx

(771 posts)
2. King of the couches!
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 12:13 AM
Nov 2025

United sofa beds of America -
Make America spring open again
Commander of sectionals, don’t ask don’t tell
Leather, chenille? Tell us your preferences Mr President.

LearnedHand

(5,495 posts)
3. Mega points for the Sherlock Holmes analogy!
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 12:28 AM
Nov 2025

This right here is the kind of insight I come to DU for. Thank you for this.

Sogo

(7,191 posts)
4. Thanks for explaining the reference to "the dog that did not bark."
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 12:32 AM
Nov 2025

I must admit to not knowing what that meant.

3Hotdogs

(15,362 posts)
5. Under what circumstances would the Epstein files lead to his being evicted from the White House?
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 12:42 AM
Nov 2025

Do any of us think the Republicans will vote for impeachment?

Under Norman circumstances, there would be a criminal investigation. What Republicans will vote for that and risk a primary?




 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
6. They can force him to resign if revelations/optics are bad enough. Got Nixon. But trump has survived this crud before.
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 12:55 AM
Nov 2025

Frasier Balzov

(5,060 posts)
7. His base will not be spooked by this.
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 01:04 AM
Nov 2025

So as useful as it might be, a year away from the mid terms, to beat this like a drum, the next move on a different topic needs to be considered.

rubbersole

(11,222 posts)
14. Argentina was good enough for the nazis.
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 02:03 AM
Nov 2025

Would $40 billion be enough to feather the nest?

Jack Valentino

(5,011 posts)
9. Democrats can win without ANY of 'Trump's base'---
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 01:16 AM
Nov 2025

because everyone else outnumbers them!

(and, some of them are getting pretty pissed off at him as well,
for abandoning 'America First'! )

'Independents'--- who now number nearly as many as the two major parties COMBINED,
according to polling--- now also give him negative numbers by a clear majority!


No point in trying to convert MAGATs---
just get more of the rest of us to VOTE!---
and DRUMPH is clearly motivating us,
and the mid-term wind is at our backs, this time!


 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
11. +1. If we convert a few that swung trump late and those who sat on side, we win. A 5% swing would be huge,
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 01:28 AM
Nov 2025

but not impossible.

Jack Valentino

(5,011 posts)
10. I'd rather keep the stupid fuck there, for as long as he lives---
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 01:19 AM
Nov 2025

because of how deep he is dragging the GQP down---


(other than fears about him ending the world with his little finger....)


Rhiannon12866

(255,517 posts)
13. Here's Lawrence O'Donnell, for those who missed it:
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 01:55 AM
Nov 2025


Lawrence: In newly public emails Epstein says 'of course' Trump 'knew about the girls' - The Last Word - MSNBC
https://www.democraticunderground.com/132160437


J_William_Ryan

(3,496 posts)
17. "Ol' JV is licking his chops knowing he will be king soon."
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 03:15 AM
Nov 2025

Then Vance is a naïve fool – along with anyone else who thinks the Epstein ‘thing’ is going to force Trump out of office.

BaronChocula

(4,549 posts)
18. Old dogs still bark
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 03:28 AM
Nov 2025

Sometimes it just takes them longer. We'll hear plenty from Jumpseat Digger and the Dark Lard-Ass about the Epstein Files long before this is all over. I guarantee it.

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