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New York City supermarket billionaire John Catsimatidis went nuclear in June, when Zohran Mamdani, who had proposed opening a cheap city-run grocery story in each of the five boroughs, won the democratic primary for mayor. Catsimatidis held a press conference with Bodega owners; publicly threatened to shut down his 30-plus stores if the democratic socialist won the election; and ranted on TV. Hes not qualified... this is silly, he said on FOX News, comparing Mamdani to Fidel Castro. Its one big con game.
He also called President Trump, who publicly backed his friend. [Mamdani] actually wants to take over the grocery stores of John Catsimatidis, whos a great guy, a rich guy, Trump said of his buddy, whose net worth Forbes pegs at $4.8 billion, He actually called me the other day, hes concerned his stores are going to be taken from him, and they wont be run like John runs them, believe me, he runs a good operation.
Now that Mamdani has been elected, Catsimatidis is once again agitating. I think a lot of business people are reducing their exposure to New York City, he tells Forbes. Catsimatidiswhose $7.8 billion (revenue) Red Apple Group also owns a Pennsylvania oil refinery, some 400 convenience stores and a portfolio of real estate stretching from New York to Floridahad been looking to move Red Apples headquarters to New Jersey if Mamdani became mayor. He changed his mind after Tuesdays election. New Jersey didn't go the right way, he saysafter the state resoundingly elected Democrat Mikie Sherrill as governor. Now, hes looking for friendly states to relocate operations, with Florida being the most likely candidate. The key word is a common sense place to do business in, explains Catsimatidis.
The nearly lifelong New Yorker, who immigrated to the city from Greece at six months old, dropped out of New York University his senior year to open the first Red Apple grocery store in 1971. Within four years, Catsimatidis had ten stores and was making $1 million a year. Today, Red Apple Group, which acquired Gristedes supermarkets in 1986 and recently gained a controlling share in D'Agostino stores, says its the largest supermarket chain in New York City, with most of its stores in Manhattan.
More at:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/martinadilicosa/2025/11/07/supermarket-billionaire-john-catsimatidis-threatens-to-cut-workforce-move-to-florida-after-mamdanis-win/
And a pass the paywall, if you get blocked

(He doesnt look like he has missed any meals)
https://archive.ph/EOZmv
Prairie Gates
(8,157 posts)Fuck off!
Your filthy grocery stores are a disgrace anyway.
legallyblondeNYC
(171 posts)rather gross - IMHO.
Lived in Manhattan for 20+ years. Yuck.
LR3
(177 posts)$4.8B is not enough for people like this
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(14,260 posts)2naSalit
(102,804 posts)On your way out!
From the looks of him, Mother Nature might have a say about this.
As a consequence, just think of the space freed up where small businesses can open and thrive, co-ops...
orangecrush
(30,261 posts)Celerity
(54,411 posts)
drmeow
(5,989 posts)"Catsimatidis claims its also his struggle. We don't have any profit margins, he says, explaining that his stores have been losing money for at least two years. "
Hmmm - why am I so suspicious about this claim? Maybe because he'd have closed the stores if he was losing money for that long cause he sure doesn't give a flying f**k about ensuring that people have access to good groceries where they live? Maybe because right wing assholes lie whenever they open their mouths? Maybe because I suspect there is some creative accounting going on that allows him to claim he's losing money so he doesn't have to pay NYC city taxes? Maybe because I don't trust douchebags? So many reasons!
Have 500 million in profit, pay yourself 500 million plus in salary, that is losing money.
TheProle
(3,982 posts)But in a city where capitalism reigns supreme, Mamdani's proposal has faced significant opposition. The democratic socialist's road to having it adopted will hinge on a variety of factors, including City Council and state support.
Mamdani has said his plan "is part of a vision of a public option for produce, an understanding that for far too many New Yorkers, groceries are out of reach, and the importance in city government of reasonable policy experimentation."
Walleye
(44,807 posts)I think Ill go back to San Juan.
I know a boat you can leave on.
Bye-bye
MarineCombatEngineer
(18,060 posts)Scrivener7
(59,522 posts)Solly Mack
(96,943 posts)Baitball Blogger
(52,350 posts)mwmisses4289
(4,186 posts)global1
(26,507 posts)Let him move to Florida. Make room for city run grocery stores.
Looking at your picture - I don't think you can handle the heat/humidity in Florida.
no_hypocrisy
(54,908 posts)Doodley
(11,914 posts)Paladin
(32,354 posts)As if trump has any notion of what "a good operation" is when it comes to grocery stores.
Iggo
(49,928 posts)mwmisses4289
(4,186 posts)Iggo
(49,928 posts)Humans? Not so much.
republianmushroom
(22,326 posts)travelingthrulife
(5,179 posts)democratsruletheday
(1,880 posts)just like his BFF, tOrange Shitter. God Repukes are ugly, whiney piss ants.
allegorical oracle
(6,480 posts)that's cooler and less humid than Fla. He'll become a large puddle of sidewalk grease in his first summer.
maxrandb
(17,428 posts)Iggo
(49,928 posts)Response to UpInArms (Original post)
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bucolic_frolic
(55,143 posts)but the real question is always, HOW did they start their first business, where did the money come from? Businesses started on $100 that amount to anything are rare. If they borrowed or got an government loan, I suppose that's fair. But some inherited it. It's easy to move up in life if you get the capital at critical points in time. Not so easy for the ordinary folks who lack skills, insight, money, etc.
Cha
(319,087 posts)wolfie001
(7,667 posts).... you're gonna need one of these:
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D00ver66
(24 posts)This guy is gross. Maybe New York should take him over and kick him out of business in new York ? Not sure how all that works but Trump gets away with shit tons of illegal stuff, why not?
Ray Bruns
(6,362 posts)mountain grammy
(29,035 posts)BidenRocks
(3,267 posts)His fat cat ranting had me wishing he would stroke out.
Poor rich fuck. He hasn't missed any meals!
popsdenver
(2,307 posts)the Republicans start calling Mamdani some despicable name they think is cute........
We should start calling Trump: Mad Man Donnie.........
C Moon
(13,643 posts)Why do these bastards want so much money?
Wake up ace hole, cuz u cant take it with you.
dobleremolque
(1,121 posts)kinds of threats actually worked, Rush Limbaugh and a whole bunch of "I'll-leave-the-country-if..." others would have died overseas. But good news. Limbaugh's still dead!
Fil1957
(707 posts)gulliver
(13,985 posts)I really don't see how it pays off, either for city residents or business owners. You say things that threaten the business model of existing grocery stores, quick marts, and bodegas before you build their replacements? I suspect almost everyone (including existing grocers, Mamdani, and most voters) knows that's ludicrous. Maybe, just maybe, New Yorkers will end up with something like subsidized private businesses, tax breaks, etc., that will get groceries more available.
Viable city-run grocery stores that provide high quality, nutritious groceries affordably? No way for that to happen. It's just an example of the "cheap guy" always ending up paying the most. It's hiring a handyman to do a root canal.
MichMan
(17,151 posts)sop
(18,626 posts)A lot of cities had them, many still do. I joined a community food co-op years ago in my college town. One could pay a small membership fee, or volunteer to work at the store a few hours a week.
MichMan
(17,151 posts)Pretty certain they will be represented by NYC unions
Deminpenn
(17,506 posts)Suppose each store has 20 employees, that's 100.
Suppose employees are paid $20/hr, 365 days a year. That amounts to 5.84M per year total. I'm sure the city owns buildings suitable for a grocery. They could be powered by renewable energy. Would there be initial start up costs? Sure, but hardly insurmountable.
Further these stores could serve as a buyer for local dairy and farm products, sustainable farming, a customer for those farms who lost contracts to supply food banks and likely more.
All it takes is a little imagination and can do spirit. What's more American than that?
MichMan
(17,151 posts)Couple both working full time will earn over $100k per year. Of course that will apply to everyone.
Where is it stated that there will only be five?
Deminpenn
(17,506 posts)$30/hr is probably the minimum one needs to live in NYC unless you are in a grandfathered hard rent controlled apt, but I doubt that would happen right away in any event.
A quick search shows NYC and it boroughs rent for an average of 2k/mo, much more if you want to live in Manhattan.
That means just an apt costs $24k a year. If you are making $30/hr, your total income would be about $60k before local, state and federal taxes. Subtracting 24k off the top leaves one with $36k to pay for everything else including taxes, health insurance, transportation and food.
Deminpenn
(17,506 posts)and customers seem to love it.
Joinfortmill
(21,169 posts)flvegan
(66,281 posts)Not a defense of Publix, just a question of his reality.
dalton99a
(94,140 posts)Warpy
(114,616 posts)Sorry he didn't get his pretty pony this time but what the hell does he expect to happen? Will New Yorkers suddenly stop eating?
What a complete dumbass!
Rebl2
(17,743 posts)tried this. There was one city run grocery store and it did not work out. They have also had free bus rides for several years and it has not worked out either. They will start charging again to ride the bus.
UpInArms
(54,984 posts)and love it
musette_sf
(10,487 posts)mr715
(3,564 posts)Blues Heron
(8,838 posts)Deminpenn
(17,506 posts)NYC only has 5 boroughs.
Very scary competition for a grocery store magnate.
MichMan
(17,151 posts)Wonder how big are they going to be?
Emile
(42,293 posts)stores without the predatory capitalist Catsimatidis stealing your money, makes sense.
SamuelTheThird
(1,154 posts)Ok, I'm not serious...really....
oasis
(53,695 posts)electric_blue68
(26,856 posts)uponit7771
(93,532 posts)HAB911
(10,440 posts)BOCA RATON, Fla. The rising cost of living in Florida is prompting about half of the state's residents to consider leaving the state.
That's according to a new poll released Monday by Florida Atlantic University, which surveyed 1,000 people over the age of 18 between Sept. 30 and Oct. 10.
https://www.wptv.com/news/state/rising-costs-drive-nearly-50-of-floridians-to-consider-leaving-state-fau-poll-says
Emile
(42,293 posts)OldBaldy1701E
(11,143 posts)No, the key word is 'favoritism'. And you will no longer have it.
