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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAmerica will soon be one large Prison
Not just the new Immigrant Detention Facilities that are going up across the country that will hold tens of thousands but also trumps new plan to eliminate homelessness by arresting people living on the streets.
Trumps executive order directs the U.S. attorney general to seek, in appropriate cases, the reversal of Federal or State judicial precedents and the termination of consent decrees that impede the United States policy of encouraging civil commitment of individuals with mental illness who pose risks to themselves or the public or are living on the streets and cannot care for themselves in appropriate facilities for appropriate periods of time.
While this proposed facility in Utah looks harmless enough and humane, the truth is it will house/imprison people who dont want to be there, who can't leave, and the facility will be staffed by low wage overworked employees, in a high stress environment who are more likely to brutalize the patients than treat them.
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Irish_Dem
(79,285 posts)During China's Great Revolution, millions killed, millions imprisoned.
gab13by13
(31,027 posts)who helped overthrow a thriving economy in Chile and install Pinochet who murdered and imprisoned anyone on the left. Milton Friedman and his trickle down goons went to Chile to install their supply side economics.
I worked in Santiago back in 2003 and our crew was having a drink at an outside cafe when a Chilean came upon us, recognized that we were Americans and began screaming at us. I didn't know that much Spanish back then but I kept hearing Pinochet. The restaurant manager had to get involved and things calmed down. Just imagine what Pinochet did to his relatives and friends that 30 years later this man was still furious, that's what Krasnov wants for America.
bluedigger
(17,382 posts)There is no profit in it.
ret5hd
(22,123 posts)to keep people out.
gab13by13
(31,027 posts)if I end up in one?
ret5hd
(22,123 posts)direct deposited into your commissary fund.
so there is that.
Joinfortmill
(19,880 posts)How quickly the pillars of our civil society, the Congress, the SCOTUS, the Legacy Media have fallen before the feet of a clownish buffoon. May these cowards carry this shame forever.
But, I am also fiercely proud of the judges, governors, independent media and the millions of brave Americans who fight back, who speak out, who protest.
Take heart, my friends, we will beat back this scurge that now infects our nation and they will pay the price for their cruelty, their lawlessness, and, yes, their treason.
Hope22
(4,417 posts)Since the Patriot Act. It has been a slow boil but we are definitely cooking now. Boating on the Great Lakes under Homeland Security has been anything but pleasant ..but now ICE has raised the bar to living hell.
WestMichRad
(2,881 posts)Please do tell why you note this. its something I havent heard about.
Hope22
(4,417 posts)We have had HS boats stalk us while we were sailing. We sail near or across the Canadian line at the lakes center which is not illegal to cross unless anchoring or going ashore without checking in. They come up to the port stern and ask a series of questions .how many on board, do we have more than $10,000 dollars on board, where are you going, where were you .the list goes on. This is in US waters regardless if we have left US waters or not. If they decide to they can board you and tear the boat apart. Stops used to happen weekly and now more sporadically. At 2 AM over the radio one night we heard an unidentified law enforcement officer order the occupants of a sailboat to come on deck and lie face down. The boater replied that he had a dog on board and the le asked if the dog would bite. The boater said in this situation I have no idea. Two years ago we were in a HS facility for Global Entry paperwork and the officer got talking. He was saying how his boat was docked at a local port that is a party town. He explained to us how recently a woman had called them on the radio requesting help because her husband was being violent. This man was livid that she thought it was his job to keep her safe. This, the same guy who is supposed to weed out terrorists! Being female I found this gut wrenching. The fact that he told me this was insane. So yes if we go into the HS facility we text a friend that we are entering. We text when we are back in the car as they are not obligated to tell anyone that they have you in custody. These boat attacks in Venezuela are out of control and we take them seriously. He would do this in the US in a heartbeat and none of the cowards in charge would do a thing to stop them.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)ReRe
(12,164 posts)JCMach1
(29,072 posts)Efilroft Sul
(4,285 posts)hunter
(40,321 posts)... the Berlin Wall all over again.
They are certainly building the infrastructure for it.
Lonestarblue
(13,189 posts)Last edited Sun Nov 2, 2025, 06:02 AM - Edit history (1)
The graph at this website shows incarceration rates as if each state were a country. The top country is El Salvador, followed by 9 red states and then Cuba, followed by another 11 red states (I excluded Virginia and New Mexico).
I wonder whether federal and state prisons (including private) are among the largest employers in the nation! We should be ashamed.
Edited to add website:
https://www.prisonpolicy.org/global/2024.html
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)And you are not referring to the OP, there is no website or link there.
Lonestarblue
(13,189 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)I see that Canada at 88 is almost 3 time better than the best US state, Massachusetts at 241. Notably, Finland, Switzerland, Sweden, Denmark, Japan, the Netherlands and others beat Canada.
With stats like that, there is another very good reason for Canada to not become the 51st state, regardless of any fulminations from the Tangerine Tyrant.
Thanks again.
gerryatwork
(96 posts)There is no way Millers government will be able to house all the Americans he is planning on removing from the US population. Miller clearly stated about 6 months ago, the ideal number of Americans is about 100 million. So that eliminates all Latinos, people of any color, native Americans and any other immigrants. That leaves approximately 160 million white Americans. So only those left Miller thinks will be useful will be saved. So anyone over 65 (except billionaires), because why pay for Social Security and Medicare. Which represents approximately 65 million.
So getting back to how Miller eliminates all those Americans. Dumping people out of the back of cargo planes alive over the Atlantic and Pacific oceans.
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,155 posts)NNadir
(37,188 posts)Norbert
(7,519 posts)2043 is theoretically when the US white population falls below 50%.
3000 detained per day is not just a number he picked out of thin air, it is probably a constant in an equation in his sociopathic mind. When the number of Hispanics start to approach zero, he will start with other ethnic groups. He wants a 2043 to never happen. Any of the white population that objects or have objected to their actions will be dealt with.
Miller is in charge. They are just keeping Krasnov busy with shiny gold things and trips abroad that he thinks are a great success in his demented mind.