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Botany

(76,194 posts)
Fri Oct 31, 2025, 08:31 AM Oct 31

Did you ever wonder if any of the contestants from Trump's Beauty Pageants went to Epstein?

One word answer. YES.

Newsweek July 31, 2025.

Epstein Victim Was Contestant in Donald Trump’s Teen Beauty Pageant.

Jane testified that she took part in the Miss Teen USA pageant in 1998, NBC News reported at the time. However, it was not clear if that was before or after she said she visited Mar-a-Lago.

Trump owned the pageant from 1996 until 2015, and four women who competed in the pageant in 1997 told BuzzFeed in 2016 that Trump had walked into their dressing room while they were changing.

During her testimony, Jane said she was sexually abused by Epstein after meeting at a summer arts camp in Michigan in 1994. She said that Maxwell—who is serving a 20-year prison sentence after being convicted of helping Epstein sexually abuse underage girls—would sometimes be in the room when she was abused.

https://www.newsweek.com/epstein-victim-contestant-donald-trump-pageant-2106406

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Did you ever wonder if any of the contestants from Trump's Beauty Pageants went to Epstein? (Original Post) Botany Oct 31 OP
If she was a teen in 1998, UpInArms Oct 31 #1
Trump/Epstein/Putin/Netanyahu and maybe Musk were all part of an international criminal enterprise Botany Oct 31 #3
Old News (article is from July) Wiz Imp Oct 31 #10
The media has gotten really, really click-baity when it comes to Epstein stories AZJonnie Oct 31 #12
I responded to a post at 7:26 this morning gab13by13 Oct 31 #2
Krasnov & Epstein, et al ReRe Oct 31 #11
krasnov modeling agency. mopinko Oct 31 #4
Just checking... BurnDoubt Oct 31 #6
most of the nda's he holds arent valid. mopinko Oct 31 #9
As I expected. BurnDoubt Oct 31 #14
Kick! Clouds Passing Oct 31 #5
Sorry, but you've got it backwards. Wiz Imp Oct 31 #7
Did I ever wonder that?? Hell yeah! Grins Oct 31 #8
Wonder? No. GoCubsGo Oct 31 #13

UpInArms

(53,921 posts)
1. If she was a teen in 1998,
Fri Oct 31, 2025, 08:41 AM
Oct 31

how old was she in 1994?

The absolute criminality of the Trump/Epstein partnership is obvious.

Botany

(76,194 posts)
3. Trump/Epstein/Putin/Netanyahu and maybe Musk were all part of an international criminal enterprise
Fri Oct 31, 2025, 08:59 AM
Oct 31

That had sex trafficking of children mostly likely of both sexes, blackmail, kompromat,
moneyed laundering, bank fraud, extortion Virginia Giuffree was shown pictures of her
younger brother by Epstein, child rape, beauty pageants and modeling try outs to recruit
new sex workers, and God only how many young women just disappeared?

BTW this criminal enterprise morphed into a President Trump too.

Wiz Imp

(8,661 posts)
10. Old News (article is from July)
Fri Oct 31, 2025, 11:16 AM
Oct 31

And the article is clearly poorly sourced. It says "The woman, identified by the pseudonym "Jane," testified that she met Trump at his Mar-a-Lago Club when Epstein took her there in the 1990s when she was 14."

Then it says "Jane testified that she took part in the Miss Teen USA pageant in 1998, NBC News reported at the time. However, it was not clear if that was before or after she said she visited Mar-a-Lago."

So she knows she was 14 at the time she met Trump, but the writer of the article doesn't know if that was before or after she took part in the pageant in 1998? Really?

Elsewhere it was stated that she was 14 when she met Epstein & Maxwell which was 1994. So clearly she was about 18 when she took part in the pageant.

If you're looking for more evidence against Trump, this article provided none. It explicitly said this person did not accuse Trump of any wrongdoing and she clearly entered the pageant long after she was abused by Epstein - so Trump had nothing to do with this particular person's abuse by Epstein.

AZJonnie

(2,643 posts)
12. The media has gotten really, really click-baity when it comes to Epstein stories
Fri Oct 31, 2025, 12:05 PM
Oct 31

I thought the same thing. If she was abused in 1994 but in the Teen USA pageant in 1998, that's not the order of events that would imply guilt by Trump.

"Jane" would also be the only known Epstein victim associated with Trump's pageant in any way.

People should also remember that at this point over $400M has been distributed or is earmarked for distribution to the victims. There is SOME chance, therefore, that some people might make up stories to get in on the gravy train. I'm not saying the known victims are liars, particularly not the ones who've been around the case for a decade or more. But as time passes, and the kitty grows, it is not just possible but probably likely there will be a faker or two who comes up from the woodwork. Just a function of human nature and statistics.

Also of the 4 that reportedly claimed Trump walked into the Teen USA dressing room (which is not what Trump admitted to doing), at least 2 of the 4 wouldn't put their name on the claim. And there are also a number of participants who said outright there's no way that happened because that would have been a huge deal among a group of teenagers, and everyone would've known about it through gossip. But these girls never heard of it happening, and suspected that the others are misremembering because many girls started at Teen then went to regular Miss USA when they turned 18, and these claims were made many years after the fact. I'm not making a claim either way myself obviously I was not there, but its not as cut-and-dry as its presented here. There's Snopes article about it that's worth a read and easy to google for.

gab13by13

(31,010 posts)
2. I responded to a post at 7:26 this morning
Fri Oct 31, 2025, 08:52 AM
Oct 31

The post was about how there were investigations into Epstein's sex trafficking as a tool for money laundering.

I made the comment that one thing that Krasnov is good at is money laundering. I then asked the question if Krasnov's Miss Teen USA pageants ever funneled little girls to Epstein?

Epstein and Krasnov were best friends for at least 15 years, and IMO, if Epstein was money laundering, Krasnov was involved in the operations.

ReRe

(12,164 posts)
11. Krasnov & Epstein, et al
Fri Oct 31, 2025, 11:48 AM
Oct 31

were money laundering, little girl laundering, abusing & filming and blackmailing. A pedophile's dream.
And now Krasnov is POTUS and tearing the country down "from within" just like they tore apart all those girl's lives, emotionally & physically, "from within".

But those little girls have grown up and are going to have the last word one of these days,
and the sooner the better.

mopinko

(73,245 posts)
4. krasnov modeling agency.
Fri Oct 31, 2025, 09:03 AM
Oct 31

bugs me that this isnt very well known. young and young looking models.
all signed nda’s.

BurnDoubt

(1,360 posts)
6. Just checking...
Fri Oct 31, 2025, 10:54 AM
Oct 31

I'm assuming they weren't minors signing NDA'S?????
NDA'S are Satanic innoculation against accountability, particularly for those who don't feel constrained by the Law or Common Decency.

BurnDoubt

(1,360 posts)
14. As I expected.
Fri Oct 31, 2025, 03:43 PM
Oct 31

Back in the mist, when some of us were earning our "Me Too" cred, the unspoken game-plan gave us a self-identifying entitlement to persist with our advances provided our date put up some token resistance defending her "Good Girl" status, with the understanding that ultimately we would be rewarded. This was understood in the locker-room culture prevalent during that time. Un-learning this attitude has been fraught.
It appears this has become the rubric in the relationship between the Executive and Judiciary.
Again, as I expected.

Wiz Imp

(8,661 posts)
7. Sorry, but you've got it backwards.
Fri Oct 31, 2025, 10:57 AM
Oct 31
During her testimony, Jane said she was sexually abused by Epstein after meeting at a summer arts camp in Michigan in 1994.


Jane testified that she took part in the Miss Teen USA pageant in 1998, NBC News reported at the time.


So she was abused by Epstein long before she was in the Miss Teen USA pageant. She didn't "go from Trump's beauty pageant" to Epstein. She went from being abused by Epstein to later appearing in a beauty pageant.

She also never accused Trump of any wrongdoing.

GoCubsGo

(34,623 posts)
13. Wonder? No.
Fri Oct 31, 2025, 12:08 PM
Oct 31

I have pretty much assumed it. The same goes for his golf motel in Florida, where he hired teen-age girls as "towel girls" in the locker rooms.

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