Fuck NBC/MSNBC executives - They should be ashamed of the message they sent out

[tulipsandroses]

I cannot imagine being a black person, LGBTQ person, or a woman reading that vomit they sent out about Charlie Kirk to their employees.
It was a flowering message about " our hearts are heavy", " he was a man of faith" - They called what Matt Dowd said insensitive.
Nothing about all the hateful things Kirk has said- Nothing about what he said about Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, Michelle Obama or Joy Reid. He claimed they all stole a white person's spot and are not intelligent. That from someone that never even completed community college.
Did they ever stop to think how insensitive their message was to their minority staff that were under attack?

[RandomNumbers]

1. Well, they published this (about Krasnov's partisan response to political killings)

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/trump-response-charlie-kirk-melissa-hortman-shootings-rcna230825

What did Dowd say? (yes I will go look it up, but it would add context to your OP)

[tulipsandroses]

6. He just pointed out that Kirk pushed hate

Joy Reid covered the pathetic media response yesterday.
https://www.youtube.com/live/9LVg3glW0Uw?si=1gVbAm0yK6iENH7S

What Dowd says starts at 8:40

[love_katz]

36. Joy Reid's show is excellent. Highly recommended!

[SocialDemocrat61]

2. Remember these are the same people who fired

Joy Reid, Tiffany Cross, Katie Phang and others who spoke out but kept the Morning Joke crew.

[mjvpi]

47. Don't ever forget Mehdi Hasan. I'm 68. He's the best television journalist I've seen in my lifetime.

[SocialDemocrat61]

59. F*ck Mehdi Hasan

He’s an anti choice homophobe who liked to bash President Biden and democrats.

[vapor2]

50. I literally missed that Katie Phang was fired

Struggling to keep up with the crap, the chaos, the lies, the us vs them shit etc

[Irish_Dem]

3. They are the propaganda team for the PutinTrump Crime syndicate.

Brainwashing us into thinking that pure evil is a good thing.

[malaise]

4. They think the same way

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M$Greedia are fascist enablers trying to remain in good graces with the billionaires

[littlemissmartypants]

10. Bingo.

[uponit7771]

5. Yankees and NBC were tone deaf as all get out

[Silent Type]

7. If one wants to hear Kirk bashing, there are a thousand podcasters trying to attract listeners. Have at it. Everyone

Everyone knows Kirk is a POS, but at least half of country is right there with him and don't care.

[tulipsandroses]

8. Not sure what you mean by this. I am specifically talking about the letter NBC executives sent to their employees

If you are a minority person who was constantly attacked by Kirk, imagine getting that letter from your boss telling you how they have heavy hearts and he was a man of faith, blah blah blah. They don't have to bash him, but they didn't have to send this BS letter to their employees.

[Deminpenn]

18. Here's betting most employees,

when they get one of these "all hands" communications from management, just roll their eyes and toss it in the trash.

[vanlassie]

27. Oh. So, no biggie?

Minimization is demoralizing.

[Deminpenn]

41. If you have ever worked in a large organization, you know

upper management is always putting out self-serving or CYA memos. emails, etc. I think most employees undertand the self-preservation instincts of the organization's execs and don't take these proclaimations very seriously.

But ymmv.

[calimary]

43. I suspect the self-preservation stems from a clear understanding

that it doesn’t matter. What the “worker-bees” at the lower end of the corporate food chain want, the upper levels really don’t care.

Maybe they take in the complaints and set up some ombudsman’s office or department that allows for employee complaints but may or may not address the problem in any meaningful way. Perhaps they think they really are “solving” whatever problem it is - by creating a “safe place to vent” where you may or may not face consequences for doing so.

It’s very human to hold a grudge. It’s how that grudge is acknowledged, and gets dealt with. Not sure we’ve all solved that problem yet, if ever.

[Deminpenn]

60. Have long believed management and workers exist in two seperate universes

that rarely interact with each other.

[calimary]

61. Yeah. Pretty much.

[edhopper]

66. Except the OP was not about what they personally want to listen to

It is about the MSM, where most people get their info, is turning Kirk into a Saint.

[orangecrush]

9. In the tank

Like the rest of corporate media

[SunSeeker]

11. "Insensitive"?! Has MSNBC seen this Charlie Kirk tweet?

Link to tweet

[progree]

13. I don't get it. "She dodges sniper fire", and apparently having something to do with Hillary

I did look at the tweet, but it says nothing more. I could figure it out if I looked at some of the replies, but it insists I join X to read replies, and that's asking too much from me and I think a lot of progressives.

I hope somebody can clue me in. Thanks

[NoPasaran]

14. Could refer to something Hillary said

About having to dodge sniper fire after landing in Bosnia while she was Secretary of State, which may have been rather economical with the truth,

[progree]

24. I remember that. Tuzla Air Base, 1996, Her description of the sniper fire arrival was in the 2008 primary campaign

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So long long ago, wow, and Captain James T. Kirk of the Starship Enterprise is (was) still holding on to that? (Edit: I looked at the tweet again, and it's dated 2015, duh me).

(OK, Charlie Kirk isn't that one, but every time I see "Charlie Kirk", it's "Captain Kirk" and then "Captain James T. Kirk" that flies through my mind. I can almost see Spock telling me "that's illogical" )

EDIT - now that I think about it, in 1996 she was First Lady when she visited Tuzla Air Base

She became a senator from New York in January 2001 to January 2009 (and campaigned in the Democratic primary for president in 2008)

and became Secretary of State in January 2009 when Obama became president

Kirk's "She dodges sniper fire. #SaySomethingNiceAboutHillary" tweet was April 2015 (presumably she was gearing up for a 2016 presidential run then)

In case of confusion about the time line of things

[Native]

15. It was his response to "say something nice about Hillary,"

In other words, he'd like to see her killed.

[Celerity]

39. Clinton admits to error over sniper fire claim during Bosnia visit

Faced with video footage, candidate backs down
Film shows routine landing at Bosnia airport

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/mar/26/hillaryclinton.barackobama

Wed 26 Mar 2008

Hillary Clinton has had to admit that she exaggerated her claim of coming under sniper fire during a visit to Bosnia in the 1990s, after video footage showed the then first lady walking calmly from her plane. The Clinton campaign played down the episode as a "misstatement" and a "minor blip". But it was seized on by supporters of her rival for the Democratic nomination, Barack Obama, as further evidence of Clinton inflating her foreign policy experience during her time in the White House.

The row centres on remarks she made during a campaign stop in Washington DC last week. Keen to talk up her experience, she spoke vividly of what seemed a harrowing and dangerous trip she made in March 1996 to Tuzla airport in Bosnia. "I remember landing under sniper fire. There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base."

Reporters and others accompanying Clinton recalled the landing at Tuzla as being routine. On Monday night, after days of argument, CBS settled the matter, unearthing film confirming there had been no sniper fire. The outcome was a rare retreat by Clinton, the first time since she began campaigning more than a year ago that she has publicly admitted making an error. At a press conference in Greensburg, Pennsylvania, yesterday, she said: "So I made a mistake. That happens. It shows I'm human, which for some people is a revelation."

She sought to hit back by stoking up the row over Barack Obama's fiery pastor, claiming that she would have left any church where such intemperate remarks had been made. "He would not have been my pastor," Clinton said, in her first public comment since the row began more than two weeks ago. Obama has remained in the pastor's church for 20 years. In a dig at Obama, she said: "You don't choose your family, but you choose what church you want to attend. "Everyone will have to decide these matters for themselves. They are obviously very personal matters ... I think the choice would be clear for me." The Obama camp immediately accused her of trying to divert attention away form the Bosnia sniper incident.

snip

[SunSeeker]

19. Not much to "get." It's a bad joke.

Here's a screenshot with some replies.

[progree]

25. Thanks /nt

[Prof. Toru Tanaka]

46. Convey96's comment was spot-on!

And very true.

[RockRaven]

12. This isn't a one off. They have always been shitty.

One of the things which struck me about Ronan Farrow's "Catch and Kill" was how shitty M$NBCNewsUniversalComcast executives were. That was 6+ years ago, and even if some of the people have changed the shittiness hasn't.

[quakerboy]

17. Why?

This is the same group that spent an inordinate amount of time in the days leading up to the election harping on the price of eggs, then somehow forgot all about it as soon as the election was over.

Media is not on our side. Not even MSNBC. They have a narrative and a goal, and they serve their masters.

[rubbersole]

20. Clickbait is their golden calf.

[mnhtnbb]

21. MSNBC heavy hand was evident

in the difference in the tone of Nicolle Wallace's show from the day of the shooting until the following day. The first show obviously was produced without much input from the higher ups: it was honest, focused on fact, utilized truth telling guests with FBI experience. The next day was much, much different. Hedging comments, over the top empathy for Kirk, etc. I turned it off.

[herding cats]

22. ☝️THIS!

Yep. They did their best to trash Biden over the price of eggs and inflation then all that became a none issue once Trump had won.

[tonekat]

23. Do they get Hitler's Birthday off?

Hell, if they are going to celebrate someone overflowing with hate like Kirk...might as well pull the mask off completely.

[Bread and Circuses]

26. Corporate America has rolled over...

They KNOW what they’re doing.

They are ALL Seditious Co-Conspirators.


They’ve let the Wolf into the Front Door.

Fascism is HERE.

[wolfie001]

30. Most CEOs and executives are white guys

They love MMA, MAGA and Joe Rogan. All are repulsive snakes. "It's a club and we ain't in it." -George Carlin

[OldBaldy1701E]

62. Hear Hear!!

[BidenRocks]

28. MSNBC

CLICK!

I have Meidas and more without supporting msm.

See Ya!

[FakeNoose]

31. NBC as well as every other network only cares about its advertisers

If the advertisers are Chump-loving MAGAs, or just conservative one-per-centers, they will be concerned and perhaps even cancel their business if NBC looks like it's going "woke" and anti-Chump.

I'm sorry to break this bad news to you, but this is the reality in America. The TV advertisers pay their bills and that's what pays NBC's salaries and keeps the lights on.

Let's maybe examine who the advertisers are on the major networks, and what influences their decision-making. How can we influence them about what should be considered news and editorial matter on the public channels?

Turning off the news in anger doesn't change a thing.

[GoodRaisin]

32. MSNBC has been unlistenable since Kirk was killed.

All day long talking points about how wonderful Kirk was and toning down political violence on “both sides”. Meanwhile Fox commenters are preaching political violence against the left.

[planj07]

33. Can't trust any of the MSM

They’ve all either been hijacked by right wing propagandists or threatened and submitted to it. I won’t lie I didn’t expect it to happen so easily.

The only sources we can trust are online. The network of Nazi propaganda is huge.

[Blue Owl]

34. TURN IT OFF

[ecstatic]

35. It's disgusting. Would they have said the same thing

about hitler? He was a man of faith as well. Smfh.

As for me, I'll let my eyes do the talking. I'm not going to watch bullshit. In recent weeks I've slipped up a little on that front but now it's back to boycotting except for specific hosts for a few minutes here and there.

I realized quite some time ago that MSNBC is some sort of money laundering front. They don't give a damn about viewership and will randomly fire a host at the drop of a dime.

[Kid Berwyn]

37. Man of faith in the Almighty Dollar.

NBC brought us Putin’s Puppet.

[Evolve Dammit]

38. Yes indeed. We should remember the constant MSM feed of Drumpf during Biden's presidency. Four years of coverage

[Queso Delicioso]

40. Oh hell no.

Just because I have a job, that doesn't give my employer veto power over opinions I choose to express on my own time. There needs to be some serious backlash to this or we're all fucked.

[yellow dahlia]

42. Matthew Dowd was right.

[Miles Archer]

44. I quit Sling TV the day after the November election, so by default, I also quit MSNBC

Peacock+ has full Nicolle Wallace shows and Lawrence O'Donnell clips...basically all the MSNBC I need, when I need it.

On Election Night it was a clear case of "We welcome our new insect overlords." I saw EVERY FACE on their "all star panel" DROP the SECOND it was clear that Trump would win. They're not as bad as CNN, but they're not worth my "loyal viewing."

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[wiggs]

45. Keep in mind that a lot of what dem outlets and leaders are saying may not reflect their ideologies, honest or

their true feelings...however they may be trying to avoid more polarization, more violence, more escalation. Which IMHO is a responsible position since plenty on the right are being irresponsible at this point. Dems are typically the adults in the room -- a heavy and difficult burden sometimes.

Doesn't mean it will be their stance in a week or month once the right stops foaming at the mouth. Sane people know the truth about Kirk. Or...will, sooner or later.

[ironman_25]

48. Cancer cured

Charlie Kirk was a cancer, chemo worked good riddance.

[Aussie105]

49. The MSM are invariably tricksters.

The reasons why you watch the news aren't the reasons why they are showing you the news.

[Bread and Circuses]

51. A man of Faith!?! Faith that promoting Hate will be a PayDay from Republicans ✔️

[dem4decades]

52. MSNBC is Fox with a different logo now.

[SunSeeker]

56. As long as MSNBC keeps Lawrence O'Donnell and Rachel Maddow on air, they'll never be the same as Fox. nt

[dem4decades]

64. The firing of Dowd by MSNBC is a warning to the rest, including LO and RM.

MSNBC is letting everyone there know to curb their speech or be fired. Not what I want to listen to.

[Jack Valentino]

54. Charlie Kirk was a FAKE Christian.... same as many Republicans

[Nimble_Idea]

55. Corporate America (Target, Big Tech, etc) have all goose stepped

and approve of all of it. they have decided all minorities should know their place.

even sent the Koreans packing recently in chains.

[red dog 1]

57. K&R

Shared on Bluesky.

[Queso Delicioso]

58. What the hell is wrong with them?

Oh no, boo hoo, one of the worst haters in the world got merked so now we're gonna act like he was all sane and reasonable. Pathetic.

[RVN VET71]

63. "Did they ever stop to think?" That's a good one

Like Media executives know how to think. They issue directives. They tell people (their underlings) what to think. They check the bottom lines. They go down for their investors. But think? That just gets in the way of making money and trashing the truth.

[Marcuse]

65. No surprise. Comcast was never progressive. We are just their business plan.

[BobTheSubgenius]

67. This is, sadly, just another brick taken from the wall. (Sorry, Roger Waters)

I sincerely despair for our society and whole way of life. Bolsonaro's comeuppance is one somewhat encouraging sign, but the world is, by and large, sinking into fascism.