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Just_Vote_Dem

(3,527 posts)
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 05:04 PM Sep 2025

Charlie Kirk's last words

“Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years?” an audience members asked. Kirk responded: “Too many.”

The questioner followed up: “Do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last 10 years?”

“Counting or not counting gang violence?” Kirk asked.

Then he was shot.

I don't condone violence, but jeez, what an asshole...

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Charlie Kirk's last words (Original Post) Just_Vote_Dem Sep 2025 OP
The last words out of his mouth were hateful ugly lies. Irish_Dem Sep 2025 #1
This! AZJonnie Sep 2025 #6
Kirk shooting aftermath maliaSmith Sep 2025 #24
Yes even her own staff hates her and says she is disgusting. Irish_Dem Sep 2025 #25
Buh BYE Chuck.... democratsruletheday Sep 2025 #2
No condoning his shooting, but I'm having a really hard time finding any sympathy for this guy. sop Sep 2025 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author COL Mustard Sep 2025 #14
Based on his views of marriage, she may be better off in the long run. Iris Sep 2025 #23
I felt sorry for his wife and children when he was alive........... Bengus81 Sep 2025 #26
They were there. Not a good thing to witness. valleyrogue Sep 2025 #33
I grieve for the manner of death as a reflection of the intolerable level of gun violence in America pat_k Sep 2025 #40
Doesn't matter who shot Charlie Kirk, or What he said Akakoji Sep 2025 #4
Yep he will become a martyr, it's already begun FirstLight Sep 2025 #10
Whitmer, and it sounds like other Democratic governors, have ordered flags lowered pat_k Sep 2025 #41
Yes this is a real concern. There are RWrs who have been itching to use their weapons cache. nt wiggs Sep 2025 #15
They may have a cache, BidenRocks Sep 2025 #20
They think that no Dems own guns? They'll get a rude awakening. Bengus81 Sep 2025 #29
Was that question a coincidence? Or part of a conspiracy? I can't help but connect the question with the shot. Jim__ Sep 2025 #5
And perhaps that's what the cabal who conducted the execution wants you to do! AZJonnie Sep 2025 #8
Malcolm Nance always says that coincidences take a lot of planning. strongermessage Sep 2025 #31
I disapprove of his killing. Charlie understood his own need for accepting it. Norrrm Sep 2025 #7
I disapprove of the last school MURDER spree and the one before that and the other one Bengus81 Sep 2025 #32
Very gracious of him to become one of the worthy sacrifices to the 2nd Ammendment. Crunchy Frog Sep 2025 #39
He seems to have reaped the whirlwinds he sowed. marble falls Sep 2025 #9
To listen to CNN orangecrush Sep 2025 #11
I had to shut it off Just_Vote_Dem Sep 2025 #12
So strange Cirsium Sep 2025 #27
When 1% of all mass shooters are "too many" transgender, and when ancianita Sep 2025 #13
Satan already had his soul (if he had such a thing.) erronis Sep 2025 #17
On Fox...Kirk is described as an American Martyr, touching on religious or tribal notes. nt wiggs Sep 2025 #16
If Fox says that about Kirk, they'll canonize trump as a saint when he kicks. ancianita Sep 2025 #19
Sickening thought! calimary Sep 2025 #21
Old/new Messiah Norrrm Sep 2025 #34
Good one. ancianita Sep 2025 #35
But... Cirsium Sep 2025 #30
K&R UTUSN Sep 2025 #18
That seems apropos. BannonsLiver Sep 2025 #22
I hope he realized what had Figarosmom Sep 2025 #28
Your prescription is ready, usonian Sep 2025 #36
Post removed Post removed Sep 2025 #37
Oh wow. I haven't looked at the news today. Doing other stuff. This is the 1st I've seen about this. Crunchy Frog Sep 2025 #38

Irish_Dem

(79,410 posts)
1. The last words out of his mouth were hateful ugly lies.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 05:05 PM
Sep 2025

Lies that hurt and damage people and our country.
And incite violence.

maliaSmith

(133 posts)
24. Kirk shooting aftermath
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:49 PM
Sep 2025

Ugly woman Nancy Mace said it was a far left liberal who shot him. She's a disgusting sick woman.

sop

(17,289 posts)
3. No condoning his shooting, but I'm having a really hard time finding any sympathy for this guy.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 05:09 PM
Sep 2025

Response to sop (Reply #3)

valleyrogue

(2,526 posts)
33. They were there. Not a good thing to witness.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 08:06 PM
Sep 2025

I am just not going to grave dance. This was absolutely horrible.

Let's hope the perp is caught soon.

What surprises me is not so much Charlie Kirk was murdered, but that so few right-wing political figures have been since Trump took office in January.

Something tells me it won't be the last.

pat_k

(12,663 posts)
40. I grieve for the manner of death as a reflection of the intolerable level of gun violence in America
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 01:08 AM
Sep 2025

No gun death is acceptable, including Charlie Kirk's.

However, as we should all know by now, on April 5, 2023, Charlie Kirk told us that gun deaths in America – which are 11 TIMES the number of gun deaths per capita in other high-income nations, driven primarily by a firearm homicide rate that is 25 TIMES that of comparable nations* – are an acceptable “cost” of their "righteous," extremist, reactionary opposition to ALL gun regulation, no matter how modest the measure or how many lives the measure would save.

"I think it's worth it. I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights."


I suspect that it never occurred to him that he would be one of those deaths he believed are "worth it."

While I grieve the manner of his death as a tragic reflection of the intolerable level of gun violence in our nation, I do not grieve the loss of a man who called for some "amazing patriot" to bail out Paul Pelosi’s attacker.


Clarence Darrow’s quote comes to mind:

“I've never wished a man dead, but I've read some obituaries with great pleasure”


*2015 numbers

Akakoji

(471 posts)
4. Doesn't matter who shot Charlie Kirk, or What he said
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 05:09 PM
Sep 2025

Last edited Thu Sep 11, 2025, 02:01 AM - Edit history (1)

It will not go down well in this country. They won't step back. They won't de-escalate. They will use this to justify an escalation. In Congress it started within minutes of his death. Democrats are somehow being blamed.

FirstLight

(15,758 posts)
10. Yep he will become a martyr, it's already begun
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 05:21 PM
Sep 2025

Trump lowering the flags to half-staff is a huge sign. Not saying we're going to have a civil war, but.... It doesn't look good.

And as another person said on a different thread, he didn't believe in empathy so I will follow that ...

I guess I am not as enlightened as I think I am. Because I'm finding some very angry and bitter thoughts in my brain. Did you see Trump lower the flags to half staff for the representative and her husband that were killed in Minnesota? He wouldn't even dignify Governor Walz with a phone call. Fuck all of them.

pat_k

(12,663 posts)
41. Whitmer, and it sounds like other Democratic governors, have ordered flags lowered
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 01:15 AM
Sep 2025

Link to an article about Whitmer's order at the end of this message. I haven't confirmed who else, but frankly, I'm appalled.

He wasn't a federal or state government official or military member, so one can't claim either of those as a reason for ordering flags flown at half-staff. Flags are also flown at half-staff to mark a national tragedy.

The only national tragedy I see here is that the per capita number of gun deaths in America is more than 10 TIMES that of comparable high-income countries. And that number is primarily driven by a gun homicide rate that is 25 TIMES that of comparable high-income countries.

THAT is the national tragedy.

Perhaps every governor who gives a shit about the intolerable number of PREVENTABLE gun deaths in America should order flags to be flown at half-staff until this nation passes meaningful gun control and puts big money into interventions and community-based programs that are PROVEN to reduce gun violence.

The gun death of a man who has dedicated himself to ensuring we DO NOTHING to reduce the number of gun deaths in this nation is absolutely NOT a national tragedy.

I am appalled that any governor who claims to stand strong for REAL American values -- values like human-rights, rule of law, religious freedom, and self-governance, and the thinking underlying those values, among them rationality, compassion as a moral imperative, and scientific inquiry -- would compromise our collective values to honor this man who was hellbent on destroying anything that was halfway decent about this country.

Sure, if you've ordered flags to be flown at half-staff every year on Sept 11 as remembrance, then certainly, do it again. But make the reason CRYSTAL CLEAR. For goodness sake, don't elevate this horrible man with ANY honors.

https://www.woodtv.com/news/michigan/gov-whitmer-orders-michigan-flags-lowered-after-charlie-kirk-shot-killed/


wiggs

(8,654 posts)
15. Yes this is a real concern. There are RWrs who have been itching to use their weapons cache. nt
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:04 PM
Sep 2025

BidenRocks

(2,699 posts)
20. They may have a cache,
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:21 PM
Sep 2025

but they can only fire one at a time.

While we are shooting back.

Meal Team Six.

Muster at Dunkin

Jim__

(15,059 posts)
5. Was that question a coincidence? Or part of a conspiracy? I can't help but connect the question with the shot.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 05:11 PM
Sep 2025

AZJonnie

(2,712 posts)
8. And perhaps that's what the cabal who conducted the execution wants you to do!
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 05:15 PM
Sep 2025

If we're going to go down the CT rabbit-hole, might as well go all the way, right?

Norrrm

(3,878 posts)
7. I disapprove of his killing. Charlie understood his own need for accepting it.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 05:15 PM
Sep 2025

Charlie Kirk: “It’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment”

https://www.mediamatters.org/charlie-kirk/charlie-kirk-its-worth-have-cost-unfortunately-some-gun-deaths-every-single-year-so-we

All those dead school children were 'worth' it to Charlie.

Bengus81

(9,758 posts)
32. I disapprove of the last school MURDER spree and the one before that and the other one
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 08:05 PM
Sep 2025

etc,etc,etc. Does anyone see Republicans give a rats ass?

Cirsium

(3,303 posts)
27. So strange
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 08:02 PM
Sep 2025

Yes, he is practically being nominated for sainthood by much of the "liberal" media. Yet, the right wing media is accusing them of the doing exact opposite.

ancianita

(42,763 posts)
13. When 1% of all mass shooters are "too many" transgender, and when
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:59 PM
Sep 2025

98-99% of mass shootings are carried out by cisgender men, mr. prove me wrong was trying to blow the trans population up as somehow more prone to violence.

Now we'll have to put up with MSM making him out to be a martyr. A saint he was not.

Lord have mercy and God rest his soul.

erronis

(22,492 posts)
17. Satan already had his soul (if he had such a thing.)
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:06 PM
Sep 2025

Just like the other well-known psychopaths ruining the world.

wiggs

(8,654 posts)
16. On Fox...Kirk is described as an American Martyr, touching on religious or tribal notes. nt
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:06 PM
Sep 2025

ancianita

(42,763 posts)
19. If Fox says that about Kirk, they'll canonize trump as a saint when he kicks.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:12 PM
Sep 2025

People need God, but these men and the Fox media that promote them, are not the path to God.

BannonsLiver

(20,200 posts)
22. That seems apropos.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:34 PM
Sep 2025

Today I have wondered if someone could have shown Charlie Kirk what was going to happen to him someday in some kind of ghosts of Christmas future scenario if he would have chosen to be an accountant living comfortably and quietly in the Midwest, rather than the bombastic path that led to fame and wealth but also his eventual demise at 31.

Response to Just_Vote_Dem (Original post)

Crunchy Frog

(28,211 posts)
38. Oh wow. I haven't looked at the news today. Doing other stuff. This is the 1st I've seen about this.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 11:08 PM
Sep 2025

Mind blown.

At least my whole family has now gotten the new Covid vaccine.

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