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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAccording to Malcom Nance Russia now has
... everything on the one imbecile's phone who
took part in Hog's Breath group chat in Moscow and maybe electronic ins into all the
other devices that were in the high school level
group chat that drunky McHog's Breath was having.
Malcolm also said that President Krasnov is looking @ attacking Iran with B-2s to divert attention from this fuck up
BTW and what excuse do we.have to attack
IRAN do we have? Iran has a nuclear program.
... which they started after Trump scrapped the deal John Kerry and Erine Moniz got down under President Obama

unc70
(6,380 posts)Consistent info
Spot on
Diraven
(1,328 posts)There's literally no valid reason to attack Iran now without even attempting diplomacy first.
LiberalArkie
(17,727 posts)Diraven
(1,328 posts)Costs more money than all the legit DOGE savings so far.
Renew Deal
(83,687 posts)NickB79
(19,836 posts)Additionally, the Post learned from Albright that the earthquake was not caused by any tests from the facility, seeing as the shocks were felt too deep in a populated area that was known to have deep fault lines.
calimary
(85,564 posts)One that’s - if not COMPLETELY favorable to him directly, then at least one that changes the subject (even if it’s only minimally).
He’s looking for Something/Anything that distracts. Cuz Distraction is his friend.
You’re being PLAYED, America! And he won’t stop until he thinks he’s won.
AdamGG
(1,650 posts)48 hours after 240 US Marines were killed in Beirut.
MontanaMama
(24,349 posts)He’s apparently going to write about it on his Substack today if anyone is interested in reading that.
Botany
(73,672 posts)The idea those jug headed wing wangs were having a group chat about military operations
on such an unsecured platform is crazy.
MontanaMama
(24,349 posts)It’s shocking. I keep calling my shitty rethug reps about it. I’m sure they’re just waiting for this to blow over. SMDH.
rubbersole
(9,585 posts)Our rep is domestic abuser Cory Mills. I call his local office daily. The young lady who answers the phone is polite to a fault. Very professional and sympathetic sounding. Mills will never go against the wishes of tsf. Never. But it makes me feel better by at least getting on the 'pain-in-the-ass' list.
vapor2
(1,980 posts)but call after hours as staffers will ask if I live in the appropriate district. Call and leave a message
stollen
(756 posts)but you may as well be trying to reason with a Q-tip.
MontanaMama
(24,349 posts)that Qtips can be reasoned with.
Botany
(73,672 posts)from the ears (when done right) Republicans are the waxy build up but not as smart.
BTW one of the very best men I have ever met in my life was the Republican governor of PA Ray Shafer. He was the brother of our next door neighbor years ago. He liked to play ball with the neighborhood kids and he for some reason liked to talk to me when I was fishing in
the little lake behind our houses. His kind is long gone. He was for education civil rights, the environment, unions, and infrastructure that helped the citizens of PA.
NJCher
(39,445 posts)Really?
Because I think they and trump should be frogmarched to jail without bond and held until their trial. They used Signal at the urging of musk when we the taxpayers paid for a safe system. They had apps designed specifically for group communication. They literally opened the door to our intelligence on the world and said walk right in; take what you want.
For all I know , the door is still open. Wonder who is at the cafeteria at this hour.
And just because no founding father imagined an enemy/foreign asset stealing the election this country seems to be twiddling its thumbs. Ho de ho. Guess I’ll go golfing this weekend, right after I lift sanctions on my buddy Vlad.
This is a chickenshit way to run a country. I have never been more disgusted in my life.
Mike 03
(18,277 posts)Norbert
(6,938 posts)dweller
(26,133 posts)
✌🏻
Ray Bruns
(5,079 posts)Because they aren’t white and speak a funny language.
FakeNoose
(37,007 posts)Son-in-law Jared Kushner used to make regular visits to the friendly Arab nations and pickup the bribe money in person. But he never made a trip to Iran, as far as I know
Harker
(15,901 posts)FakeNoose
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EndlessWire
(7,648 posts)The Houthis are proxies for Iran. They have illegally been shooting at innocent shipping in the Red Sea for a time now. Those are acts of war which deserve to have a response. Biden did respond, but was restrained. I think he was appropriate. rump, however, has been itching to play with the USs military might and planned to entertain himself with bombing the sh*t out of them. And he did, although we don't really know how successful we were at it.
Meanwhile, Israel is adament that Iran has to go. They see Iran as part of the bigger problem, or THE problem. Biden wisely kept us out of a major war with Iran, but the Orange Turd doesn't care about anyone but himself, so he's eager to send us to war. Especially if it distracts the increasingly restless US natives from a domestic uprising, which is coming.
We could have controlled Iran but for tRump's failed policies. Trump is a bully, and he only knows how to punch, not diplomacy. Remember, no one has to actually like each other to step down and move in the same direction. I truly hate how Iran treats its citizens, but avoiding a nuclear fight seems best at the moment. And, Iran is friends with Russia and sells to Russia, which makes it doubly hard. I think that's why Biden was very careful, not because he was too soft.
Clouds Passing
(4,207 posts)John Farmer
(285 posts)Iran supports Russia and is supported in turn.
It's entirely plausible that Russia could have obtained un-encrypted chat transcript from the participant envoy who happened to be in Moscow at the time.
LT Barclay
(2,883 posts)crosshairs since chimps days. After the illegal and misguided invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, we lined both borders with Iran with military bases. Probably still trying to get back what we stole when the Shah was overthrown.
That is why I don't see our support of Israel as being altruistic or even Christian Nationalist dominionism. I think for the US it is pure greed. From what I understand the Palestinians and Iranians are ethnically tied and Iran is still hostile to Israel. So the hostilities are a twofer. Israel gets to weaken an enemy and the US has justification to seize Iranian oil.
The most radical hypothesis I have read to date (and his documentation was meticulous so I didn't dismiss it, but it is a bit far to easily accept) is that Massad was behind 9/11 so we would weaken the enemies of Israel. In this day and age who knows?
rampartd
(1,799 posts)but the end times bullshit is used to keep american evangelicals in line. so yes , pure greed" but the rest is necessary to maintain the kayfabe.
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C Moon
(12,762 posts)Makes me nauseous.
Humans are horrid.
All for fucking money and power. And it's always the rich that are doing this. Always. When have the poor or middle-class done this?
Can't there be a COVID that only attacks the rich? Because that's the only thing that can save the human race—and the planet.
jayschool2013
(2,551 posts)when he wrote and sang:
"For the crimes, they are a-changin'."
erronis
(18,567 posts)Permanut
(6,910 posts)in retaliation for Saudi Arabian terrorists crashing planes into the World Trade Center.
That would be none.
OMGWTF
(4,630 posts)for lying us into two wars for their fun and profit. Cheney's near bankrupt company Haliburton, found itself $39.5B richer after all of its no-bid contracts. They tortured people, they broke every international law they could find. Why dafuq do they always get away with this shit?
Republicans are the reason for EVERYTHING that is wrong with us. How many lives have they burned with their BS wars, Covid-19 lies, and mistreatment of the poor? How much of our treasury have they robbed with NOTHING to show for it? Those fkers don't ever build anything. They only know how to tear down what we have worked our entire lives to build.
We are the richest and most powerful country in the world, yet we don't have national healthcare for everyone like every other civilized nation (fking Rwanda has national healthcare!), all education from Pre-K to graduate school is being gutted unless you're in the Xitian cult, the Kennedy Center is controlled by a home-grown fascist, all of our mainstream news is propagandized and we are being LIED TO on a daily basis. Meanwhile, Shitler golfs, and our enemies are dancing in the streets.
KPN
(16,498 posts)of Obama’s nuclear arms deal w/ Iran. How the fuck did we get here? Truly dystopian — especially in that the MAGAs see us, the normal people, as the dystopians.
FakeNoose
(37,007 posts)He still can't kill the ACA, but he hobbled it with the help of Lil' Marco.
louis-t
(24,106 posts)Buh bye to Obamacare.
sdfernando
(5,630 posts)dissed the orange felonious racist rapist at a dinner where it was expected to dis people. His skin is thinner than the orange makeup he trowels on!
FakeNoose
(37,007 posts)Did you ever wonder why Chump has no friends? ZERO sense of humor about himself.
NBachers
(18,399 posts)On edit: Imagine if the bomber crews refused to carry out their mission and diverted to France and landed.
onlyadream
(2,233 posts)They were hoping (on the 1st term) that Trump would attack Iran and remove the Mullahs. They want us to help them oust their gov't.
multigraincracker
(35,238 posts)The 50s when US and British oil companies toss it out and installed the Shah for 40% of their oil. There are good reasons for them hate the West.
Almost about as bad as the back story to Viet Nam and the Gulf of Tonkin.
Mosby
(18,297 posts)How long does this excuse work?
And it was never a progressive democracy, get real.
multigraincracker
(35,238 posts)Botany
(73,672 posts)... Iranian leader, Mossadeck sp is still be felt.
Mossadeck had the crazy idea that the oil under Iran belonged to the Iranian People. So
he had to go and then the Shaw came along and then grumpy old guys with beards and thoughts out of the 11 hundreds came along and ...
multigraincracker
(35,238 posts)Like John Lenon says. Imagine.
NJCher
(39,445 posts)Crazy ideas about oil abound.
Mosaddegh. For some strange reason, I can spell anything. Pronounce it too.
SheltieLover
(65,489 posts)Is anyone talking about the whole war plans Signal call being for a photo op?
NJCher
(39,445 posts)Fancy meeting you here, expressing opinions similar to mine. Please see upthread. I came late to the party.
Lovie777
(17,548 posts)LymphocyteLover
(7,629 posts)orangecrush
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Mike 03
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orangecrush
(23,894 posts)Mr. Evil
(3,218 posts)I listen! Thanx so much for this.
orangecrush
(23,894 posts)
NJCher
(39,445 posts)Is crucial to understanding where we are.
Thank you, orangecrush.
crimycarny
(1,758 posts)I've read previous reports of NATO nations questioning whether or not they should share intel with the United States due questions about Trump's loyalty. I'd assume a security breach of this magnitude would make them even more unlikely to share intel, which makes the US even more vulnerable.
While I wouldn't blame NATO for not sharing secret information, and actually hope they don't because it's likely to get to Putin, I feel for those serving in our military who will now be more vulnerable than ever.
multigraincracker
(35,238 posts)crimycarny
(1,758 posts)Wow, really? I didn't see that. Putin must be celebrating.
multigraincracker
(35,238 posts)Mosby
(18,297 posts)What your trying to communicate.
And fwiw the JCPOA is still valid and in effect because it's linked to UNSCR 2231. The US was only one of the signatories, Trump pulling the US out doesn't really matter.
Irish_Dem
(66,909 posts)This is a given.
dem4decades
(12,519 posts)Irish_Dem
(66,909 posts)Putin needs the cabinet members and other high ranking members to find out what is really going on.
NJCher
(39,445 posts)I had no idea how this works.
Malcolm is a national treasure.
proud patriot
(101,754 posts)
Linda ladeewolf
(795 posts)If he attacks them. They will hunt him for the rest of his life and any that collaborated with him on an attack. They will also likely return an attack directly.
kimbutgar
(24,626 posts)And it will be a disaster for the US and it will be all on the orange hitler !
How will he blame any other administration?
Meowmee
(8,102 posts)intentionally which we don't know about yet and maybe never will. We may find out.