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demmiblue

(38,157 posts)
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 08:52 AM Wednesday

The Atlantic has now published the Signal texts with attack plans in response to administration denials.

Ryan Goodman
‪@rgoodlaw.bsky.social‬

The Atlantic has now published the Signal texts with attack plans in response to administration denials.

I worked at the Pentagon.

If information like this is not classified, nothing is.

If Hegseth is claiming he declassified this information, he should be shown the door for having done so.


March 26, 2025 at 8:46 AM

https://bsky.app/profile/rgoodlaw.bsky.social/post/3llbsx5c5as2u


Here Are the Attack Plans That Trump’s Advisers Shared on Signal

So, about that Signal chat.

On Monday, shortly after we published a story about a massive Trump-administration security breach, a reporter asked the secretary of defense, Pete Hegseth, why he had shared plans about a forthcoming attack on Yemen on the Signal messaging app. He answered, “Nobody was texting war plans. And that’s all I have to say about that.”

At a Senate hearing yesterday, the director of national intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, and the director of the Central Intelligence Agency, John Ratcliffe, were both asked about the Signal chat, to which Jeffrey Goldberg, the editor in chief of The Atlantic, was inadvertently invited by National Security Adviser Michael Waltz. “There was no classified material that was shared in that Signal group,” Gabbard told members of the Senate Intelligence Committee.

Ratcliffe said much the same: “My communications, to be clear, in the Signal message group were entirely permissible and lawful and did not include classified information.”

President Donald Trump, asked yesterday afternoon about the same matter, said, “It wasn’t classified information.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/signal-group-chat-attack-plans-hegseth-goldberg/682176/


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The Atlantic has now published the Signal texts with attack plans in response to administration denials. (Original Post) demmiblue Wednesday OP
Oh snap................. Lovie777 Wednesday #1
I know, right!? demmiblue Wednesday #2
splat... catsup hits the wall - ha ha ha... SheltieLover Wednesday #3
I'm predicting this will be the most popular thread of the day... SheltieLover Wednesday #4
They're like little children in their complete inability to give up a lie when caught flatfooted ... marble falls Wednesday #5
If Only There Were a Disciplinarian We Could Insist They Visit! The Roux Comes First Wednesday #86
The coverup up gets them every time C_U_L8R Wednesday #6
Exactly. I they had stuck with "Mistakes were made" it would have blown over. John1956PA Wednesday #13
And today, these same clowns go before the House C_U_L8R Wednesday #14
And have Putin slice/dice them? stollen Wednesday #83
Of course they will. pat_k Wednesday #85
Rep Warren Davidsen says RoeVWade Wednesday #7
OH MY GOD!!! After reading the thread it is sooo much Phoenix61 Wednesday #8
So Bondi lied to congress as did Waltz.... spanone Wednesday #9
"THE PRESIDENT LIED TOO" orleans Wednesday #45
I didn't see what she said yet....but if it is out of her mouth... Teacher of the Year Wednesday #75
All liars newdeal2 Wednesday #10
We'll have to wait til NEXT November (2026, that is) for Dems to take the majority. calimary Wednesday #81
The Atlantic show the screen shot of journalist Jeff Goldberg's Signal: demmiblue Wednesday #11
They will now be prosecuted for releasing classified information. Oneironaut Wednesday #12
who will prosecute them? The FBI Trump OWNS? Captain Zero Wednesday #18
I believe the poster is talking about prosecuting The Atlantic/Goldberg. n/t demmiblue Wednesday #19
Yup! Sorry for the confusion! Oneironaut Wednesday #20
But but they said it wasn't classified kerouac2 Wednesday #36
Yup. sheshe2 Wednesday #60
Not gonna happen. The head of FBI and DOJ?? Kash Patel and Pam Bondi?? tulipsandroses Wednesday #39
trump will pardon them LuvLoogie Wednesday #56
He gave a 2 to 2 1/2 hour heads up about incoming warplanes and targets Prairie Gates Wednesday #15
That is the point Pete Buttigieg was so pissed off about: It put US military personnel at risk unnecessarily. Attilatheblond Wednesday #54
You know, BonnieJW Wednesday #72
Oh, just like their dear leader bringning them fame and fortunes... Justice matters. Thursday #93
Yea, nothing classified there, not an attack plan...no war plans. Passages Wednesday #16
OMG... lol: Pete Hegseth was worried his war plans would leak while on a Signal group chat with a reporter demmiblue Wednesday #17
"Precise operational issues were not part of this conversation?" Tulsi Gabbard replied: "Correct." demmiblue Wednesday #21
Tulsi Gabbord is either really Blue_Roses Wednesday #29
She's all-in on slurping up the Kool-Aid. nt Wednesdays Wednesday #41
Both are possible at the same time IronLionZion Wednesday #48
Gabbard is a Russian plant. yardwork Wednesday #62
She's a Russian spy. It's common knowledge. OMGWTF Wednesday #69
How many Russian assets are there in the WH?? Asking for a friend vapor2 Wednesday #91
Two things can be true about Gabbard. MontanaMama Wednesday #74
Grab some.... Martin Eden Wednesday #22
But Hillary's emails!!! Gimpyknee Wednesday #23
Were the lying liars really banking on the editor not releasing the full transcript? NH Ethylene Wednesday #24
everyone that testified yesterday should be jailed for lying to congress moonshinegnomie Wednesday #25
And he didn't wait two or three years to write a book and do a book tour about it. Autumn Wednesday #26
This. mcar Wednesday #53
And he didn't wait two or three years to write a book and do a book tour about it. Autumn Wednesday #27
Confirming, as was obvious from context already, that this wasn't a one-off. They are routinely using Signal to evade... demmiblue Wednesday #28
Signalgate NameAlreadyTaken Wednesday #30
And extra stupid copying and pasting the info IbogaProject Wednesday #31
K & R malaise Wednesday #32
The entire national security team has been exposed as liars and traitors Mysterian Wednesday #33
Liars and bumbling, foolish, silly and naive ameteurs. OVER THEIR HEADS. Maru Kitteh Wednesday #73
They're now in the FO phase of FAFO. nt Wednesdays Wednesday #34
Archive link UpInArms Wednesday #35
Thank you. writerJT Wednesday #61
Thanks for sharing that link! slightlv Wednesday #87
Then ... UpInArms Wednesday #89
Thanks from me too!! vapor2 Wednesday #92
And the only thing we hear from POTUS is he mad at Waltz... sarchasm Wednesday #37
If some large heads (TG, PH) don't roll for this then I'm afraid we, the USofA, are truly done. sarchasm Wednesday #42
This is REALLY the lame-ass defense they are going with? They were "attack plans" not "war plans"? demmiblue Wednesday #38
Could this be the Watergate for this regime liberal N proud Wednesday #40
Signalgate. usonian Wednesday #47
WTF. The incompetence in this administration is appalling. iluvtennis Wednesday #43
That was not classified. usonian Wednesday #44
Careless risky stupid assholes gonna get people killed. suegeo Wednesday #46
Sniffing glue,more likely BattleRow Wednesday #50
I love JD Vance's concerns that Europe might benefit more than the US IronLionZion Wednesday #49
Why does Hog's Breath still have a job? Botany Wednesday #51
What did they think Goldberg would do? mcar Wednesday #52
These is no reason for Dems or anyone Deminpenn Wednesday #55
I think they'll sue kkmarie Wednesday #68
the fact is Skittles Wednesday #90
Just subcribed to it. WinstonSmith4740 Wednesday #57
Response to threats against the Atlantic orangecrush Wednesday #58
They testified under oath before Congress AdamGG Wednesday #59
Arrogant, stupid, ego driven fools are not good choices for cabinet posts. patphil Wednesday #63
SMH. In a sane country...oh, never mind. Solly Mack Wednesday #64
"It wasn't classified information." dchill Wednesday #65
Unfuckingbelievable Happy Hoosier Wednesday #66
In A Few Days, Houthi-Gate Will Have Never Happened FrankTC Wednesday #67
Good 3auld6phart Wednesday #70
She is responding the way everyone should - Lokee11 Wednesday #71
DoD policy makes all of that at least "Secret". James48 Wednesday #76
And after this was published they are STILL LYING TO CONGRESS AND AMERICA spanone Wednesday #77
Here Are the Attack Plans That Trump's Advisers Shared on Signal LetMyPeopleVote Wednesday #78
Good for the Atlantic. Reminds me of the Pentagon Papers. If the Orange Felon wants to blame a journalist for his Martin68 Wednesday #79
KnRnBkmrk Hekate Wednesday #80
They should have done it right away Meowmee Wednesday #82
Trump said no apology was necessary because they were doing their best. Shermann Wednesday #84
Another poster her, quoting soldierant Wednesday #88

SheltieLover

(65,489 posts)
3. splat... catsup hits the wall - ha ha ha...
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 08:56 AM
Wednesday

This is why Dems surround themselves with the most brilliant in their fields of endeavor, slobby, not the biggest ass kissers on the planet.

marble falls

(64,186 posts)
5. They're like little children in their complete inability to give up a lie when caught flatfooted ...
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 08:57 AM
Wednesday

... all we have to do is stand up and say NO.

The Roux Comes First

(1,649 posts)
86. If Only There Were a Disciplinarian We Could Insist They Visit!
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 07:15 PM
Wednesday

A vice-principal, or, or, a Supreme Court. Oh, wait a mo.

John1956PA

(3,867 posts)
13. Exactly. I they had stuck with "Mistakes were made" it would have blown over.
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 09:07 AM
Wednesday

But no. They just had to attack Goldberg. They must have thought it would be cute to fashion him into an "enemy of the people" persona a la Goldstein in 1984.

C_U_L8R

(46,806 posts)
14. And today, these same clowns go before the House
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 09:11 AM
Wednesday

Do they stick with their lies? Do they create new lies? Do they attack the reporter? Do they run and hide?

Somehow the least expected thing is that they might actually tell the truth. That says a lot.

pat_k

(11,063 posts)
85. Of course they will.
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 05:52 PM
Wednesday

The entire 47 regime follows the Roy Cohn playbook.

(link)

. . .
. . Cohn imparted an M.O. that’s been on searing display throughout Trump’s ascent, his divisive, captivating campaign, and his fraught, unprecedented presidency. Deflect and distract, never give in, never admit fault, lie and attack, lie and attack, publicity no matter what, win no matter what, all underpinned by a deep, prove-me-wrong belief in the power of chaos and fear.
. . .


Regime: The texts are fake.

So prove that by releasing this supposedly unclassified exchange.

Regime: No, national security.

If it is a matter of national security, doesn't that mean the exchange revealed classified information?

Regime: No. The texts released are fake.

So show us the exchange.

Regime: No. National security. Goldberg is being arrested for hacking into the chat. It's a socialist conspiracy to undermine the great government we're building.

And round and round they go.

RoeVWade

(405 posts)
7. Rep Warren Davidsen says
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 08:59 AM
Wednesday

paraphrasing -- that it might be good to scare the terrorists by releasing this in real time. So no problem

wtf???

I mean the plans note the exact time the attack is occurring.

(Republicans making it worse trying to come up with explanations.)



Phoenix61

(18,217 posts)
8. OH MY GOD!!! After reading the thread it is sooo much
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 09:02 AM
Wednesday

worse than I thought. Discussing strategy about when to bomb and how to manage publicity isn’t classified??? WTAF!!!

spanone

(138,556 posts)
9. So Bondi lied to congress as did Waltz....
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 09:03 AM
Wednesday

fucking liars one and all...THE PRESIDENT LIED TOO.

75. I didn't see what she said yet....but if it is out of her mouth...
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 12:52 PM
Wednesday

there is a good chance it was a lie.

newdeal2

(2,104 posts)
10. All liars
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 09:04 AM
Wednesday

Now the question is will House and Senate Republicans speak up after being lied to a few hours ago. Don’t get your hopes up.

calimary

(85,564 posts)
81. We'll have to wait til NEXT November (2026, that is) for Dems to take the majority.
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 03:52 PM
Wednesday

No reason to expect ANYTHING truthful til then. Repubs have to protect the house of cards they built so carefully. A house of cards is easily knocked over. They know how delicate and vulnerable it is. That’s why they’re doing everything/anything they can think of, to protect it.

demmiblue

(38,157 posts)
11. The Atlantic show the screen shot of journalist Jeff Goldberg's Signal:
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 09:05 AM
Wednesday
Ryan Goodman
‪@rgoodlaw.bsky.social‬

3/ Plus you knew this was coming.

The Atlantic (@jeffreygoldberg.bsky.social and @shaneharris.bsky.social) show the screen shot of journalist Jeff Goldberg's Signal:

"Michael Waltz added you to the group."

Whoever advised Waltz and others to deny that should be demoted.

March 26, 2025 at 8:58 AM

https://bsky.app/profile/rgoodlaw.bsky.social/post/3llbtlwzhck22


Oneironaut

(5,930 posts)
12. They will now be prosecuted for releasing classified information.
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 09:07 AM
Wednesday

Probably. They’re not afraid to show that the facade is all bullshit, especially if the goal is to be vindictive

Captain Zero

(7,770 posts)
18. who will prosecute them? The FBI Trump OWNS?
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 09:23 AM
Wednesday

I doubt it.
If the Republican Congress had any balls they would impeach/convict Trump.
And order JD Vance to form a new cabinet of competent professionals.

Except Vance was IN ON THE CHAT, himself.

I really don't want to say we are fucked, but?

tulipsandroses

(7,080 posts)
39. Not gonna happen. The head of FBI and DOJ?? Kash Patel and Pam Bondi??
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 10:15 AM
Wednesday

We need to take back the house and haul their asses in for congressional hearings. Get them for lying under oath.
The statute of limitations for lying to congress is 5 years. They can be prosecuted for their crimes when Dems reclaim the WH and put people in charge that actually care about law and order.

Prairie Gates

(4,627 posts)
15. He gave a 2 to 2 1/2 hour heads up about incoming warplanes and targets
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 09:20 AM
Wednesday

It's actually a miracle they didn't shoot either of these strike packages down. They were put in supreme danger. Houthis are not keeping downed pilots as prisoners or exchanging them for tariff relief. They put them in cages and burn them alive.

Attilatheblond

(5,533 posts)
54. That is the point Pete Buttigieg was so pissed off about: It put US military personnel at risk unnecessarily.
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 10:45 AM
Wednesday

Whiskey DOD has to go, along with the other administration idiots on that chat. Trials and possible prison.

Reality Winner released one piece of paper, not timing of actual battle plans ahead of an attack. She got 5 years. These fools need a whole lot more.

One can imagine there have been other chats on vulnerable sites. These idiots are breaking laws & don't want the required paper trail of their activities.

BonnieJW

(2,819 posts)
72. You know,
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 11:42 AM
Wednesday

You mentioning whiskey made me realize the reason petey wants to text instead of meeting in person in a SCIF is so he can drink.

Justice matters.

(8,189 posts)
93. Oh, just like their dear leader bringning them fame and fortunes...
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 01:17 AM
Thursday

You think they care about his "suckers and losers" more than he does?

They all went to party at his $1-Million-a-cover "fundraiser" at Merde-a-Largo after the attack killed innocent children.

demmiblue

(38,157 posts)
21. "Precise operational issues were not part of this conversation?" Tulsi Gabbard replied: "Correct."
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 09:46 AM
Wednesday
Kyle Griffin
‪@kylegriffin1.bsky.social‬

In the Senate worldwide threats hearing just yesterday, Sen. Martin Heinrich asked: "Precise operational issues were not part of this conversation?" Tulsi Gabbard replied: "Correct."

Pete Hegseth shared launch times in the Signal war plans chat.


March 26, 2025 at 9:40 AM

https://bsky.app/profile/kylegriffin1.bsky.social/post/3llbvygvuys26


Blue_Roses

(13,726 posts)
29. Tulsi Gabbord is either really
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 10:06 AM
Wednesday

stupid or a plant somehow. She is so wishy-washy half the time.

NH Ethylene

(31,066 posts)
24. Were the lying liars really banking on the editor not releasing the full transcript?
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 09:56 AM
Wednesday

Once they all asserted there was nothing classified about the conversation, there was no reason to hold back.

Autumn

(47,608 posts)
26. And he didn't wait two or three years to write a book and do a book tour about it.
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 10:03 AM
Wednesday

This man is an American hero.

Autumn

(47,608 posts)
27. And he didn't wait two or three years to write a book and do a book tour about it.
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 10:03 AM
Wednesday

This man is an American hero.

demmiblue

(38,157 posts)
28. Confirming, as was obvious from context already, that this wasn't a one-off. They are routinely using Signal to evade...
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 10:04 AM
Wednesday
Julian Sanchez
‪@normative.bsky.social‬

Confirming, as was obvious from context already, that this wasn’t a one-off. They are routinely using Signal to evade statutory record retention requirements.

March 26, 2025 at 9:22 AM

https://bsky.app/profile/normative.bsky.social/post/3llbuxpg37k27


IbogaProject

(4,178 posts)
31. And extra stupid copying and pasting the info
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 10:07 AM
Wednesday

All that group needed was enough vague details to discuss the geopolitcs and post mission PR. And now they are both denying and trying to shift blame on the reporter. Hegseth says he declassified it so I'm guessing they can't walk that claim back to charge the Editor.

Mysterian

(5,472 posts)
33. The entire national security team has been exposed as liars and traitors
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 10:09 AM
Wednesday

who follow the fascist playbook of Project 2025 to overthrow democracy in the USA.

Maru Kitteh

(29,858 posts)
73. Liars and bumbling, foolish, silly and naive ameteurs. OVER THEIR HEADS.
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 11:49 AM
Wednesday

Way, WAY, over their heads.

slightlv

(5,220 posts)
87. Thanks for sharing that link!
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 08:31 PM
Wednesday

I found it extremely interesting and upsetting. Two things that haven't been mentioned (at least that I've seen talked about) is trump and Hegswart swearing they'll make Europe repay all the cost of this little adventure. Yeah... like Mexico is paying for the Wall?

2) Waltz congratulated the group in MAL (Mar a Lago!) for a great job, too. Okay... so now we are running all government and military operations out of MAL? WTF!

sarchasm

(1,257 posts)
42. If some large heads (TG, PH) don't roll for this then I'm afraid we, the USofA, are truly done.
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 10:21 AM
Wednesday

demmiblue

(38,157 posts)
38. This is REALLY the lame-ass defense they are going with? They were "attack plans" not "war plans"?
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 10:15 AM
Wednesday
Ron Filipkowski
‪@ronfilipkowski.bsky.social‬

This is REALLY the lame-ass defense they are going with? They were “attack plans” not “war plans”?

March 26, 2025 at 10:01 AM

https://bsky.app/profile/ronfilipkowski.bsky.social/post/3llbx5eaohc2s




usonian

(16,757 posts)
44. That was not classified.
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 10:27 AM
Wednesday

And this is not a Ming Dynasty vase.




It's plastic.

Nothing to see here.

But seriously folks, if Trump could give away classified documents like after-dinner mints, do you expect these boneheads to get anything but a medal of freedom?

They're all insured by the "John Roberts and Associates" insurance company.


suegeo

(2,975 posts)
46. Careless risky stupid assholes gonna get people killed.
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 10:29 AM
Wednesday

Do they know their job is to protect American lives and the lives of our allies (who they have alienated) ?

Do they know it is dangerous to run with scissors? It's dangerous to give their toddlers sharp knives?

Do they eat glue?

IronLionZion

(48,204 posts)
49. I love JD Vance's concerns that Europe might benefit more than the US
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 10:34 AM
Wednesday


Without any thought whatsoever to Israel or anyone else using those shipping routes

mcar

(44,305 posts)
52. What did they think Goldberg would do?
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 10:38 AM
Wednesday

They are so arrogant in their MAGA bubble that they really thought lying to Congress and insulting Goldberg would work?

Deminpenn

(16,667 posts)
55. These is no reason for Dems or anyone
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 10:50 AM
Wednesday

else to be scared of these incompetent, stupid and arrogant boobs.

kkmarie

(101 posts)
68. I think they'll sue
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 11:28 AM
Wednesday

I think the Krasnov regime will sue for a gazillion dollars and continue to call Goldberg a hoax spreader. Of course they'll continue to deny this, using a multitude of variations on what happened or didn't happen.

I know it's very clear that everyone denied anything in the chat was classified but it would not be unusual for Krasnov to now say it was classified and arrest Goldberg.

Maga media will then only broadcast what Krasnov is saying and sanewash it. The magas 100% believe what Krasnov says.

Skittles

(162,885 posts)
90. the fact is
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 09:29 PM
Wednesday

these corrupt assholes think what works with their idiot base will work on people with critical thinking skills

that is some fucked-up shyte right there

WinstonSmith4740

(3,256 posts)
57. Just subcribed to it.
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 10:52 AM
Wednesday

I'm so glad they published this...at least the editors are standing up to him. Unfortunately, as his cultists have proven over and over...they do not care if he lies. To them, the ends justify the means.

Going to be interesting and to see how he tries to shut it down.

orangecrush

(23,894 posts)
58. Response to threats against the Atlantic
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 10:54 AM
Wednesday

My guess.

Good.

The clown car is going to go through some things.

AdamGG

(1,650 posts)
59. They testified under oath before Congress
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 11:00 AM
Wednesday

That nothing classified was shared in these texts - so congratulations, they green lighted its release.

The real investigation should be into how many other high level government meetings have been held through private apps in the last 2 months.

patphil

(7,581 posts)
63. Arrogant, stupid, ego driven fools are not good choices for cabinet posts.
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 11:21 AM
Wednesday

These are Trump's "best people". I'd hate to see his worst people, but then maybe what he considers the worst are actually the best.
We're barely 9 weeks in, and the damage his people have done could take years to fix. I don't want to imagine what the state of the nation will be in 4 years, assuming the nation survives that long.
Not only are these dildo's wrecking the nation, they're threatening the stability and safety of the world.
Trump's actions make this world less safe each day he's in office.

Note: a dildo is a mindless fucker.

FrankTC

(235 posts)
67. In A Few Days, Houthi-Gate Will Have Never Happened
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 11:26 AM
Wednesday

It will be memory-holed, or be transformed into something like, "Remember that time when the libs attacked our very fine national security team and tried to make them look bad? Remember how they attacked us just as we were defending ourselves against terrorists?" Nothing will come of this.

3auld6phart

(1,493 posts)
70. Good
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 11:36 AM
Wednesday

Call out those incompetent bastards. Especially whisky Pete Hogsbrath.dip shi treasonous asshole..

James48

(4,779 posts)
76. DoD policy makes all of that at least "Secret".
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 01:26 PM
Wednesday

It’s in the DoD policy guide on classification.

spanone

(138,556 posts)
77. And after this was published they are STILL LYING TO CONGRESS AND AMERICA
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 01:32 PM
Wednesday

FUCKING TRAITORS

LetMyPeopleVote

(160,552 posts)
78. Here Are the Attack Plans That Trump's Advisers Shared on Signal
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 01:34 PM
Wednesday

Here is a link to the article that is not behind paywall
https://bsky.app/profile/anneapplebaum.bsky.social/post/3llbvatu2c22r



https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/signal-group-chat-attack-plans-hegseth-goldberg/682176/?gift=hVZeG3M9DnxL4CekrWGK3_X2K7ulsnjDWC1R1jDQds4&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

Yesterday, we asked officials across the Trump administration if they objected to us publishing the full texts. In emails to the Central Intelligence Agency, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the National Security Council, the Department of Defense, and the White House, we wrote, in part: “In light of statements today from multiple administration officials, including before the Senate Intelligence Committee, that the information in the Signal chain about the Houthi strike is not classified, and that it does not contain ‘war plans,’ The Atlantic is considering publishing the entirety of the Signal chain.”

We sent our first request for comment and feedback to national-security officials shortly after noon, and followed up in the evening after most failed to answer.

Late yesterday, White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt emailed a response: “As we have repeatedly stated, there was no classified information transmitted in the group chat. However, as the CIA Director and National Security Advisor have both expressed today, that does not mean we encourage the release of the conversation. This was intended to be a an [sic] internal and private deliberation amongst high-level senior staff and sensitive information was discussed. So for those reason [sic] — yes, we object to the release.” (The Leavitt statement did not address which elements of the texts the White House considered sensitive, or how, more than a week after the initial air strikes, their publication could have bearing on national security.)

A CIA spokesperson asked us to withhold the name of John Ratcliffe’s chief of staff, which Ratcliffe had shared in the Signal chain, because CIA intelligence officers are traditionally not publicly identified. Ratcliffe had testified earlier yesterday that the officer is not undercover and said it was “completely appropriate” to share their name in the Signal conversation. We will continue to withhold the name of the officer. Otherwise, the messages are unredacted.

Martin68

(25,245 posts)
79. Good for the Atlantic. Reminds me of the Pentagon Papers. If the Orange Felon wants to blame a journalist for his
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 02:18 PM
Wednesday

administration's criminal incompetence and negligence, then hang it all out there.

Shermann

(8,888 posts)
84. Trump said no apology was necessary because they were doing their best.
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 05:50 PM
Wednesday

So, is that how that works in real life? If I do a job in an incompetent way and put people at risk, I don't have to apologize as long as I was doing my best?

Maybe in BIZARRO WORLD!

soldierant

(8,296 posts)
88. Another poster her, quoting
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 08:38 PM
Wednesday

a sibling who is a Naval Academy graduate, says that technically these plans are "strike plans" and that a "war plan" is something different.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220179423

And that's how the participants think they can get away with saying no war plans were discussed.

He also says that the whole thing is total BS. We can prubably all agree on that.

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