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Irish_Dem

(62,129 posts)
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 04:45 PM Tuesday

Close family member's scholarship grant was shut down today by Trump.

This person is working on a PhD and their general research area: mental health treatment of children
and adolescents.

There is a shortage of mental health practitioners for children and teens, and a strong
need for data based treatment.

Her scholarship is part of a federal grant tied to a specific study and would have helped with
tuition and college costs, etc.

All of it taken away today.

Everyone is in shock and scrambling today.

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Close family member's scholarship grant was shut down today by Trump. (Original Post) Irish_Dem Tuesday OP
Very sorry about this. I heard on the car radio that congressional offices spooky3 Tuesday #1
I wonder if that would help. Irish_Dem Tuesday #2
It could. I just received an email sent to everyone at the university spooky3 Tuesday #3
Thank you. Irish_Dem Tuesday #4
On Deadline White House, one of the guest kept saying call your Congressperson & Senator ... aggiesal Tuesday #14
spectrum news out of Madison WI is also reporting lots of calls to legislatures because of this chaotic mess riversedge 19 hrs ago #51
He is such a fucking inhuman monster! Initech Tuesday #5
I know, cutting off funding for children's mental health treatment research. Irish_Dem Tuesday #6
That is just pure fucking evil! Initech Tuesday #7
The greedy billionaires destroyed mental health services decades ago. Irish_Dem Tuesday #8
OMG that's awful!!! 😮 FirstLight Tuesday #9
I don't know. Irish_Dem Tuesday #11
Do you mind if I ask which university? FirstLight Tuesday #32
I will pm you to get more info. Irish_Dem Tuesday #33
This is terrible. They just don't care who they hurt. LoisB Tuesday #10
Right, including the children who benefit from university research. Irish_Dem Tuesday #12
Whenever I hear a story like this, I first ask ''Who did they vote for?'' ... aggiesal Tuesday #13
Person in question is solid total 100% Dem to her little toe. Irish_Dem Tuesday #16
That's good to hear, not that it should matter, but a lot of people are going to needlessly suffer because ... aggiesal Tuesday #19
Maybe this might help and relieve some stress ... aggiesal Tuesday #35
This was a scholarship as part of a federal grant. Irish_Dem Tuesday #36
So either there is a scholarship that does not deal with Federal dollars, so she shouldn't worry ... aggiesal Tuesday #38
This is a scholarship attached to a federal grant for specific research. Irish_Dem Tuesday #39
I was hoping for a win. Sorry to hear this. ... aggiesal Tuesday #42
I don't think Trump will follow any court order. Irish_Dem 20 hrs ago #43
Yeah, my stepson got his PhD through a grant. He's in microbiology and had allegorical oracle 15 hrs ago #54
Yes of course, but now the mentors are all having their grants pulled. Irish_Dem 14 hrs ago #55
The NSF includes numerous internships for a spectrum of people. Passages Tuesday #15
Some of these programs will pay for themselves in the long run. Irish_Dem Tuesday #17
Yes. He is "delivering" clearing the swamp. Passages Tuesday #18
Evil is clearing out good. Irish_Dem Tuesday #20
Trump excels evil. Passages Tuesday #22
Yes sometimes psychopaths cross a line into pure evil. Irish_Dem Tuesday #23
I'm so sorry that happened. ananda Tuesday #21
Not a surprise. OldBaldy1701E Tuesday #24
I am not surprised either. Irish_Dem Tuesday #25
Not for them or their children, just anyone else. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Tuesday #29
Of course, the wealthy have everything they want. Irish_Dem Tuesday #31
It would appear that Mr. Trump is carrying out his revenge crusade against... the nelm Tuesday #26
I'm so sorry. AllyCat Tuesday #27
Thanks. Irish_Dem Tuesday #30
My kid goes to a state university. The families FB is all AllyCat Tuesday #37
Sorry to hear that. Jim__ Tuesday #28
K&R orangecrush Tuesday #34
My daughter called me to say her doctorate environmental research grant was canceled. TheBlackAdder Tuesday #40
You and I got the same phone call yesterday. Irish_Dem 20 hrs ago #44
She's going Plan B TheBlackAdder 15 hrs ago #52
Oh no, BA, I am sorry to hear this. Irish_Dem 15 hrs ago #53
Remember, Trump loves "the poorly educated" He said so. Trump and MAGAs like him despise education, truth, facts, Jit423 Tuesday #41
Defunding university research is a big blow to the university and society. Irish_Dem 20 hrs ago #45
Shades of the Reagan Revolution... Hugin 20 hrs ago #46
Thank you Hugin. Irish_Dem 19 hrs ago #47
It's a sure thing none of them have ever asked themselves... Hugin 19 hrs ago #48
I blame myself. Irish_Dem 19 hrs ago #49
That's still a valuable lesson. Hugin 19 hrs ago #50

spooky3

(36,744 posts)
1. Very sorry about this. I heard on the car radio that congressional offices
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 04:50 PM
Tuesday

Are being flooded with calls from people adversely affected by this horseshit.

Irish_Dem

(62,129 posts)
2. I wonder if that would help.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 04:55 PM
Tuesday

I was going to start making calls and sending emails.

I mean for god's sake. Stopping research to improve children's mental health treatment.

Another relative works in cancer research and is trying to get funding for next month
to preserve the studies already in progress.

Thank you for your comment and ideas.

spooky3

(36,744 posts)
3. It could. I just received an email sent to everyone at the university
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 05:24 PM
Tuesday

from which I retired. The Pres. of the university outlined how these EOs have affected multiple facets of functioning and what they’re doing in response. The implicit message is total and unnecessary upheaval. It’s outrageous.

Irish_Dem

(62,129 posts)
4. Thank you.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 05:27 PM
Tuesday

I will be sending emails and making calls.
US senators are on my list.
Damn cowards.

aggiesal

(9,657 posts)
14. On Deadline White House, one of the guest kept saying call your Congressperson & Senator ...
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 06:40 PM
Tuesday

and tell your circumstances.

So, yes, I'm hoping calling will help.

riversedge

(73,978 posts)
51. spectrum news out of Madison WI is also reporting lots of calls to legislatures because of this chaotic mess
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 05:39 AM
19 hrs ago

created by Trump-and his administration.

Initech

(103,113 posts)
7. That is just pure fucking evil!
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 06:16 PM
Tuesday

I just want to say - "Hey MAGA, ha ha ha! You owned us! We're owned! Now stop it already and get the fuck out of our government, OK?"

Irish_Dem

(62,129 posts)
8. The greedy billionaires destroyed mental health services decades ago.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 06:25 PM
Tuesday

They bought up all the mental health managed care companies, borrowed millions of dollars from
banks in loans, then ran the companies into the ground, refused to pay legitimate claims.
Many providers were driven out of practice.

The billionaires made a pretty penny destroying the field of mental health treatment,

This is why it is hard to find mental health professionals to deliver services.

The mental health field was just beginning to come back and recover.
Now Trump cuts off funding to universities who are training the professionals and doing research.

FirstLight

(14,444 posts)
9. OMG that's awful!!! 😮
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 06:25 PM
Tuesday

I cannot believe that any of this is being allowed. I'm gobsmacked. I'm so sorry for her, and I really hope that she's able to turn this around. And that were all able to stand up to this somehow...

Irish_Dem

(62,129 posts)
11. I don't know.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 06:32 PM
Tuesday

She quit her job to go to grad school.
But has some reduced work hours.
She is trying to increase her workload and see if she can swing work and a PhD program.
The university is scrambling to find a few state dollars.

FirstLight

(14,444 posts)
32. Do you mind if I ask which university?
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 07:33 PM
Tuesday

I am going to Arizona State online thru the Tempe campus.

I don't know whay there's nnot a coalition of/for Universities to address legal issues like this!!!

aggiesal

(9,657 posts)
13. Whenever I hear a story like this, I first ask ''Who did they vote for?'' ...
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 06:37 PM
Tuesday

I know I shouldn't and I'm sorry if this makes others upset, but I believe it's a valid question.

I'm hoping they didn't. Either way, we all will suffer under this unrelenting Authoritarian grab.

aggiesal

(9,657 posts)
19. That's good to hear, not that it should matter, but a lot of people are going to needlessly suffer because ...
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 06:57 PM
Tuesday

of the idiot in the WH.

aggiesal

(9,657 posts)
35. Maybe this might help and relieve some stress ...
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 07:50 PM
Tuesday

Administration officials have said federal assistance to individuals would not be affected, including Social Security, Medicare, food stamps, student loans and scholarships.

Irish_Dem

(62,129 posts)
36. This was a scholarship as part of a federal grant.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 07:55 PM
Tuesday

Often the case at the Ph.D. level.

Tenured professors get grants for their research and their students
can get scholarships from the grant to work on the grant research project.
These projects are big and need a lot of hands onboard.

But thanks I am going to find out more tomorrow.

aggiesal

(9,657 posts)
38. So either there is a scholarship that does not deal with Federal dollars, so she shouldn't worry ...
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 08:56 PM
Tuesday

Or there is a scholarship that does deal with Federal dollars, and based on Administration officials scholarships would not be affected. So she shouldn't worry.
I think it's a win-win situation.

Now, if her scholarship is piggy-backing on a Federal Grant, she might have issues, because there is no mention that Grants would not be affected.

Hope you hear good news tomorrow. Good Luck.

Irish_Dem

(62,129 posts)
39. This is a scholarship attached to a federal grant for specific research.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 09:02 PM
Tuesday

The grant is officially gone today as are the scholarships associated with it.

It is not a win win for anyone.

It is a loss for the university, the kids who benefit from the research, and the mental health community.

aggiesal

(9,657 posts)
42. I was hoping for a win. Sorry to hear this. ...
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 09:28 PM
Tuesday

Let the lawsuits begin. Not that it would mean much now.

Irish_Dem

(62,129 posts)
43. I don't think Trump will follow any court order.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 04:39 AM
20 hrs ago

But yes, some of the damage cannot be undone with a court order.

allegorical oracle

(3,789 posts)
54. Yeah, my stepson got his PhD through a grant. He's in microbiology and had
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 09:44 AM
15 hrs ago

supporting "mentors" who helped him out. Is that an avenue to pursue?

Irish_Dem

(62,129 posts)
55. Yes of course, but now the mentors are all having their grants pulled.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 10:01 AM
14 hrs ago

And are under attack themselves.

Passages

(1,605 posts)
15. The NSF includes numerous internships for a spectrum of people.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 06:43 PM
Tuesday

One example, Trump just shut down an internship designed for young people with autism interested in the tech field.
They then find appropriate jobs with support to make the leap to independence.

Pue evil.

Irish_Dem

(62,129 posts)
17. Some of these programs will pay for themselves in the long run.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 06:48 PM
Tuesday

If handicapped people can earn a living, that is great for their self esteem
and independence. And they contribute to society and pay taxes etc.

So it is not about cost cutting for Trump.
It is about power, control and stealing money from the American people.

Passages

(1,605 posts)
18. Yes. He is "delivering" clearing the swamp.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 06:52 PM
Tuesday

Infuriating because he and his cronies are the swamp, but here we are.

Irish_Dem

(62,129 posts)
23. Yes sometimes psychopaths cross a line into pure evil.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 07:03 PM
Tuesday

Like Putin, Xi, Kin Jong UN.
Mussolini, Stalin.
Hitler.

OldBaldy1701E

(6,965 posts)
24. Not a surprise.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 07:05 PM
Tuesday

Most of that ilk consider mental health a 'made up excuse' for not being a proper wage slave.

Except when they are the ones using it. Then it is a 'trend'.

Irish_Dem

(62,129 posts)
25. I am not surprised either.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 07:09 PM
Tuesday

The GOP has been trying hard to destroy mental health services for decades.
And it has worked, there is a severe shortage of psych professionals, especially for children.

Irish_Dem

(62,129 posts)
31. Of course, the wealthy have everything they want.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 07:31 PM
Tuesday

Including abortion on demand for wives, kids, girlfriends.

the nelm

(20 posts)
26. It would appear that Mr. Trump is carrying out his revenge crusade against...
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 07:22 PM
Tuesday

everyone. Even the red hats. Apparently, they didn't "fight" hard enough for him.

Is this what you had in mind Mr. Roberts when you led the charge to give almost total immunity to a president? Even one with the maturity level of a 5-year-old? We're just over a week in and all hell and chaos is being unleashed. How's that whole "unitary executive" thing working out for you twits now? Is this what you had in mind? Letting a petulant child get his why, no matter the cost?

(Isn't there Stephen King novel about something like this?)

AllyCat

(17,384 posts)
37. My kid goes to a state university. The families FB is all
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 08:55 PM
Tuesday

Abuzz about this today. Many students didn’t get their funding. Some still did. We are self-pay at the moment because late financial aid gave us …no financial aid. I feel badly for everyone else.

Irish_Dem

(62,129 posts)
44. You and I got the same phone call yesterday.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 04:42 AM
20 hrs ago

So sorry to hear about your daughter.
What is she going to do now?

She cannot fund the research for her dissertation?
She will have to go to Plan B if she can?
Or will she have to drop out?

TheBlackAdder

(29,164 posts)
52. She's going Plan B
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 09:26 AM
15 hrs ago

Dropping out of the doctorate program, as her's is a 5-year program and she's just finishing year two. She has 4 years of research work, but research work doesn't count in the job field. They want actual work. So, mission accomplished Republicans, as she was specializing in environmental plastics in soil and water and would have only been one of a handful in the country doing it.

MAGAts... enjoy your forever plastics. Oh, and MAGA... Fuck you and I hope your deaths are long and painful.

PS. Her professor is a Trump supporter who doesn't believe in Global Warming. He's lost his grants too! Fuck Him.

Irish_Dem

(62,129 posts)
53. Oh no, BA, I am sorry to hear this.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 09:32 AM
15 hrs ago

So sad to hear this.

The billionaires and GOP do not want students doing research about toxins in our environment.
Her findings might cut into their profit margins.

And they don't want to waste money on mental health treatment for children.
Handicapped kids are useless eaters.

I hope karma is a real thing and these evil ones spend eternity in the nine circles of hell.

Jit423

(704 posts)
41. Remember, Trump loves "the poorly educated" He said so. Trump and MAGAs like him despise education, truth, facts,
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 09:09 PM
Tuesday

knowledge, wisdom, honesty, science and history. They despise anything their pea-size brains can't deal with and they hate people who have acquired knowledge and understanding that they will not or can not grasp. Therefore, the pursuit of knowledge and understanding is what they hate. They are happy with a bunch of dumb fucks who and little and question nothing. They idolize leaders whom they feel are as poorly educated as they themselves. Those among them who actually know better, use these idiots for their political and financial purposes.

During this Trump administration look for the punishment through denial of benefits, denial of services, denial of employment to anyone who may be even remotely associated with learning, research, teaching, and anyone in the pursuit of knowledge.

Making America Dumb Again is their purpose and cruelty is their method.

Irish_Dem

(62,129 posts)
45. Defunding university research is a big blow to the university and society.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 04:48 AM
20 hrs ago

If professors cannot get their research funded, they cannot do the research.
The point of a PhD is to conduct original research and contribute to scientific knowledge.
If society doesn't want to pay for it, there will be no research.
There is no need for PhDs.

The US will lose its standing in the world as country with excellent universities,
and a strong science community.

Hugin

(35,207 posts)
46. Shades of the Reagan Revolution...
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 04:52 AM
20 hrs ago

Which I was personally horrifically impacted by, my life never turned out the way I thought it would growing up. I have been trying to catch up ever since to little avail.

It’s the same assholes at the helm. Same roadmap to nowhere.

My deepest sympathies and condolences to those who have been throat punched. It never gets any easier.

Irish_Dem

(62,129 posts)
47. Thank you Hugin.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 05:01 AM
19 hrs ago

Yes once again the Regan evil is in charge.

And it is a blow to professors who spend their life contributing to the body of scientific knowledge.
The universities who provide educational opportunities.
And the students who work so hard to contribute to society.

And then of course in this case, the children who would have benefited from better clinical care.

Sorry to hear this happened to you in the 80's.

Hugin

(35,207 posts)
48. It's a sure thing none of them have ever asked themselves...
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 05:14 AM
19 hrs ago

“What’s in it for me?” They know.

Irish_Dem

(62,129 posts)
49. I blame myself.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 05:22 AM
19 hrs ago

I always told my family that when they leave this planet they should leave it a bit better
than when they arrived.

Don't be a zero or a minus in life, be a plus. Make this planet a better place.

They took it to heart and are now being punished for this lesson I taught them.

I guess I should have told them to always look out for number one.
Screw the rest of the world.
They would then match the current American value system.

Hugin

(35,207 posts)
50. That's still a valuable lesson.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 05:31 AM
19 hrs ago

Few know I’m as big or bigger psychopath than these creeps. I met myself coming the other way. That’s the “woke” terrifying the Trumpist.

You’ve done well in your teaching and it will be proven in the end.

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