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applegrove

(124,122 posts)
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 02:48 PM Tuesday

Medicaid Payment System Turned Off

Medicaid Payment System Turned Off

January 28, 2025 at 2:33 pm EST By Taegan Goddard 4 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2025/01/28/medicaid-payment-system-turned-off/

"SNIP...........

Medicaid reimbursement portals were down Tuesday in all 50 states on the heels of a funding freeze ordered by the Trump administration of federal grants and loans, CNBC reports.

..........SNIP"

Applegrove: doesn't Medicaid also pay for kidney dialysis around the nation? This will kill millions.

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Medicaid Payment System Turned Off (Original Post) applegrove Tuesday OP
Just going by the Presser today: it's NOT a direct payment JCMach1 Tuesday #1
What I think it means is that if the states don't get the funds Ocelot II Tuesday #5
Who is going to accept Medicaid if they don't get paid? applegrove Tuesday #14
Precisely JCMach1 Tuesday #19
we will never know if millions die. Numbers will be judged and the deaths will be samsingh Tuesday #2
I have to laugh at your satire about the gun. Even though the topic is horrendous. rich7862 Tuesday #31
This will cripple hospitals, clinics, treatments, no_hypocrisy Tuesday #3
It will Rebl2 Tuesday #40
He's becoming crazier and nastier each freaking day! Dave Bowman Tuesday #4
This is Musk's doing. orangecrush Tuesday #9
I'm afraid that hey are both getting worse as time goes by. :( Dave Bowman Tuesday #11
And Putin... wants to crimple and destroy America. Cha Tuesday #16
Cha: Putin does want to destroy America he wants to make it his home. That is rich7862 Tuesday #33
Yes I can believe that!! Cha Tuesday #61
Trump's gangster daddy. orangecrush Tuesday #35
Mump's Insane Cha Tuesday #62
I hope to see that day orangecrush Tuesday #63
Talk about Cha Tuesday #65
Project 2025 Katcat Tuesday #30
No doubt. orangecrush Tuesday #36
Absolutely - it is all coming out of Project 2025 - TBF Tuesday #42
No, This is Trump's doing. He revels in the suffering of others. Scalded Nun Tuesday #38
No it is not - Trump is their figurehead but the Republican Party and the TBF Tuesday #44
Every one is realizing it finally. rich7862 Tuesday #32
How does he even have the power to do this? bucolic_frolic Tuesday #6
Exactly. This is a power grab. yardwork Tuesday #24
Impoundment Diraven Tuesday #59
MAGA better get prepared for granny to live under their roof rather than in the nursing home. Vinca Tuesday #7
MAGA and everyone else need to get ready for that. ShazzieB Tuesday #41
I was just thinking the same thing - TBF Tuesday #45
Any loss of life/further medical complications should be laid at his feet. It can also devastate businesses. tulipsandroses Tuesday #8
People should sue him to death, it's the only thing that he understands. Dave Bowman Tuesday #12
Not as horrific as the loss of medical treatment, of course, but it will also cause unemployment to spike. femmedem Tuesday #10
Nursing home workers? Captain Zero Tuesday #17
Oh no. It hadn't dawned on me it would affect their payment, too. n/t femmedem Tuesday #25
This message was self-deleted by its author Brenda Tuesday #46
I think most will just shut down. Those nurses will be out of a job Bengus81 Tuesday #47
He already worked on that day one Blue Full Moon Tuesday #54
I will be one of the millions who will die for lack of medical care Mountain Mule Tuesday #13
I will be one of the millions who will die for lack of medical care also. pazzyanne Tuesday #58
I am so sorry Mountain Mule Tuesday #66
Yes, he is. pazzyanne Tuesday #67
So how many trump followers Andy823 Tuesday #15
None--they want people they dislike to suffer, this pleases them, even Wingus Dingus Tuesday #18
Yeah...hell they DIED for that spray tan POS during Covid Bengus81 Tuesday #48
If its not reported on Fox, it didn't happen Mountain Mule Tuesday #21
this statement is 100% true chicoescuela Tuesday #26
Sadistic Monsters want to Kill America and Cha Tuesday #20
Thank you Mountain Mule Tuesday #23
I know.. it's Heart Breaking! I read your post Mountain Mule Cha Tuesday #28
Most kind - thank you! Mountain Mule Tuesday #29
You're Very Welcome 🕯️🕊️💚🌈 Cha Tuesday #57
79,308,002 people are enrolled in Medicaid/CHIP NameAlreadyTaken Tuesday #22
If that all shut down, there would be an uprising, including MAGA voters who would be affected. Doodley Tuesday #27
Politics White House says Medicaid portal 'will be back online shortly' Wiz Imp Tuesday #34
Actually, Medicaid was specifically supposed to be exempted from the freeze as well. Wiz Imp Tuesday #39
Maybe they em..."accidentally" shut Medicaid down as a test Bengus81 Tuesday #49
I wouldn't rule that out, but given they announced ahead of time Medicaid would not be affected Wiz Imp Tuesday #52
Fascists have no shame. Emile Tuesday #37
Sounds like most Republicans are ok with it angrychair Tuesday #43
While that House members insurance and pension are safe and sound Bengus81 Tuesday #50
Democrats: 'Insane' Trump power grab on federal grants 'blatantly disobeys the law' LetMyPeopleVote Tuesday #51
next will be medicare. Javaman Tuesday #53
He's trying to terrorize us. choie Tuesday #55
Trump is a ... mntleo2 Tuesday #56
Incredible pain to inflict on people. Passages Tuesday #60
Medicaid pays for 60% of Nursing Home residents Strelnikov_ Tuesday #64

JCMach1

(28,237 posts)
1. Just going by the Presser today: it's NOT a direct payment
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 02:50 PM
Tuesday

Soooo. Make of that what you will.

Ocelot II

(122,381 posts)
5. What I think it means is that if the states don't get the funds
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 02:53 PM
Tuesday

they won't be able to cover individuals. So it's a distinction without a difference.

samsingh

(17,948 posts)
2. we will never know if millions die. Numbers will be judged and the deaths will be
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 02:51 PM
Tuesday

blamed on something else - perhaps NOT owning a gun killed them.

no_hypocrisy

(49,754 posts)
3. This will cripple hospitals, clinics, treatments,
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 02:51 PM
Tuesday

as well as cause countless vulnerable people to die.

Bishop Buddy didn’t go far enough. He should have been condemned.

Dave Bowman

(4,318 posts)
11. I'm afraid that hey are both getting worse as time goes by. :(
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 03:13 PM
Tuesday

The Nazi salute was way over the top and Caligulump's mind is deteriorating fast.

rich7862

(277 posts)
33. Cha: Putin does want to destroy America he wants to make it his home. That is
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 04:41 PM
Tuesday

why he is destroying our democracy from within our country.

Cha

(306,515 posts)
61. Yes I can believe that!!
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 05:45 PM
Tuesday

Hopefully passionately that a way is Found to Stop them First

Cha

(306,515 posts)
62. Mump's Insane
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 06:11 PM
Tuesday

Megalomaniac Mass Homicidal Maniac:Needs to have the smirk wiped off his face

TY🕯️🕊️💙🇺🇸🌈

TBF

(34,970 posts)
42. Absolutely - it is all coming out of Project 2025 -
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 04:51 PM
Tuesday

The billionaires have decided that they are fine with using religion not only to win elections, but to turn back time and really make themselves some $$$. They were all in front row seats on election day. I don't think they believe most of the BS that is being shoveled, but they sure are going to profit from it. They are going to let the Heritage Foundation et al turn this country into their dystopian Christian wonderland. They don't need no hospitals, research, education, etc. "God will provide" is their mantra. They are stark-raving lunatics, bent on profit/control.



Scalded Nun

(1,349 posts)
38. No, This is Trump's doing. He revels in the suffering of others.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 04:46 PM
Tuesday

He just happens to have a large group of followers and hangers-on who feel just like he does.

TBF

(34,970 posts)
44. No it is not - Trump is their figurehead but the Republican Party and the
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 04:56 PM
Tuesday

Heritage Foundation are behind this. Let me be crystal clear: the Republican Party owns this. We read Project 2025 before the election, and the Heritage Foundation was very proud of their handywork. They were so arrogant that they published it on their website and started recruiting. That's how they were able to roll it out so quickly. This is not just Trump and a few silly followers.

bucolic_frolic

(48,218 posts)
6. How does he even have the power to do this?
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 02:53 PM
Tuesday

Is it part of legislation funding the government? Why would Congress authorize the president to stop spending when spending must originate in the Congress?

Diraven

(1,141 posts)
59. Impoundment
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 05:42 PM
Tuesday

The Supreme Court a while ago said the president doesn't have the authority to stop spending legislated by Congress, but Trump is trying with these actions to get a new case before the current ultra-conservative SC so they can reverse that and say he does have this power.

Vinca

(51,454 posts)
7. MAGA better get prepared for granny to live under their roof rather than in the nursing home.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 02:53 PM
Tuesday

Medicaid also pays for that because Medicare coverage for nursing homes is minimal.

ShazzieB

(19,149 posts)
41. MAGA and everyone else need to get ready for that.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 04:51 PM
Tuesday

My husband's brother died in March 2023, and my sister died in January 2024. They were both living in nursing homes, funded by Medicare/Medicaid. I'm glad they didn't live to see (and be affected by) what's happening now.

TBF

(34,970 posts)
45. I was just thinking the same thing -
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 04:58 PM
Tuesday

I'm glad my mom doesn't have to see this. We were fortunate to have some land to sell and then Medicare to pay for her nursing care. She was in a very caring facility. Others are not going to be so lucky.

tulipsandroses

(6,623 posts)
8. Any loss of life/further medical complications should be laid at his feet. It can also devastate businesses.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 02:56 PM
Tuesday

The Change cyber attack last year was a big blow for many health care providers, hospitals, and pharmacies. Many small clinics, independent providers are not able to sustain these financial attacks. After the cyber attacks, people were taking out loans to make payroll, pay rent and other business expenses.

femmedem

(8,466 posts)
10. Not as horrific as the loss of medical treatment, of course, but it will also cause unemployment to spike.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 03:02 PM
Tuesday

I expect that a lot of medical professionals will be laid off--on top of the government employees, researchers, clean energy workers and construction workers who are also vulnerable to layoffs.

Captain Zero

(7,629 posts)
17. Nursing home workers?
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 03:32 PM
Tuesday

So he is just leaving seniors in Nursing homes unattended ??

If one senior in a nursing home dies, Trump should be taken out and shot.

Response to Captain Zero (Reply #17)

Bengus81

(7,712 posts)
47. I think most will just shut down. Those nurses will be out of a job
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 05:02 PM
Tuesday

Even that won't wake any up that are MAGOTS......

Mountain Mule

(1,065 posts)
13. I will be one of the millions who will die for lack of medical care
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 03:17 PM
Tuesday

I became disabled in my 50's. Medical bills and a divorce left me penniless. Now at age 73 I get by on a tiny SS check and a housing voucher. My healthcare is (was?) covered by Medicaid/Medicare. I am supposed to have cataract surgery in February since I'm all but blind in one eye. Without Medicaid I may very well go completely blind and I won't have the money to cover the cost of my prescriptions.

Trump is trying to become a mass murderer.

pazzyanne

(6,641 posts)
58. I will be one of the millions who will die for lack of medical care also.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 05:40 PM
Tuesday

Medicaid pays for my treatment for my fatal autoimmune disease. That treatment has kept me in remission for 10+ years.

Mountain Mule

(1,065 posts)
66. I am so sorry
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 07:28 PM
Tuesday

It's bad enough for those of us suffering from serious medical conditions. Now we get to lay awake at night and wonder what on earth we are going to do. It's like Trump is gaming us because he enjoys watching people suffer. Truly, he is a monster.

pazzyanne

(6,641 posts)
67. Yes, he is.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 08:34 PM
Tuesday

I discussed this last week with my Primary Care Physician about my possible dying in the near future. She said the medical community is working on this because there are hundreds of patients in the same boat that we are in. Horrible situation! They have been told they need to find "creative solutions" and working on finding "out of the box" plans. Financing is a major problem, no surprise there.

Wingus Dingus

(8,476 posts)
18. None--they want people they dislike to suffer, this pleases them, even
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 03:38 PM
Tuesday

if they're inconvenienced or financially hurt.

Bengus81

(7,712 posts)
48. Yeah...hell they DIED for that spray tan POS during Covid
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 05:04 PM
Tuesday

Instead of simply staying apart for a time and then getting vaxxed.

Mountain Mule

(1,065 posts)
21. If its not reported on Fox, it didn't happen
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 03:55 PM
Tuesday

If it is reported they will be dancing in the streets and on the graves of thousands.

Cha

(306,515 posts)
20. Sadistic Monsters want to Kill America and
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 03:50 PM
Tuesday

Americans. I actually figured this was coming.. just not so soon..

Good Luck to everybody on Medicaid!

Mountain Mule

(1,065 posts)
23. Thank you
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 04:00 PM
Tuesday

As a Medicaid recipient I am feeling pretty overwhelmed right now. My medical care is vanishing right in front of my eyes.

NameAlreadyTaken

(1,815 posts)
22. 79,308,002 people are enrolled in Medicaid/CHIP
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 03:56 PM
Tuesday

And by the way, approximately 20,524,000 people are enrolled in Marketplace ACA plans. Oh, and according to the CMS, approximately 68 million people are enrolled in Medicare.

That's a total of 167,832,002 people who have health insurance provided or subsidized by the federal government, or approximately half of the entire U.S. population.

Are Trump & Co. going to try to shut this all down?

Doodley

(10,473 posts)
27. If that all shut down, there would be an uprising, including MAGA voters who would be affected.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 04:14 PM
Tuesday

Wiz Imp

(3,099 posts)
34. Politics White House says Medicaid portal 'will be back online shortly'
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 04:41 PM
Tuesday
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/28/trump-funding-freeze-medicaid-state-portals-omb.html

White House says Medicaid portal ‘will be back online shortly’ after Trump funding freeze blamed

Medicaid reimbursement portals were down Tuesday in every U.S. state after the Trump administration ordered a freeze on federal grants and loans, a senator said.

But the White House later said it expected the systems to “be back online shortly” without any effect on payments.

White House spokesperson Karoline Leavitt later wrote in a tweet, “The White House is aware of the Medicaid website portal outage.”

“We have confirmed no payments have been affected — they are still being processed and sent,” Leavitt said. “We expect the portal will be back online shortly.”


I honestly think this was incompetence more than anything. Social Security and Medicare were explicitly exempted from the funding freeze. My bet is nobody in the Trump administration even considered the impact on Medicaid until people like Senator Wyden screamed about it, then they realized it was a PR disaster and quickly reversed course.

Wiz Imp

(3,099 posts)
39. Actually, Medicaid was specifically supposed to be exempted from the freeze as well.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 04:47 PM
Tuesday

More proof that his was just colossal incompetence from the Trump administration.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-federal-funding-freeze-widespread-confusion-rcna189581

Trump's funding freeze creates widespread confusion

Funding for programs that provide direct assistance to Americans would be excluded from the pause and exempt from the review process, the senior administration official said. Those programs include Medicaid, food stamps, small business assistance, Head Start, rental assistance and federal Pell Grants for college students, according to a memo sent out Tuesday afternoon by OMB.

Bengus81

(7,712 posts)
49. Maybe they em..."accidentally" shut Medicaid down as a test
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 05:09 PM
Tuesday

to see what the outrage level would be.

Wiz Imp

(3,099 posts)
52. I wouldn't rule that out, but given they announced ahead of time Medicaid would not be affected
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 05:14 PM
Tuesday

and given Trump's track record of "hiring only the best" people, I'm confident this can be blamed on good old fashioned massive incompetence.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-federal-funding-freeze-widespread-confusion-rcna189581

Trump's funding freeze creates widespread confusion

Funding for programs that provide direct assistance to Americans would be excluded from the pause and exempt from the review process, the senior administration official said. Those programs include Medicaid, food stamps, small business assistance, Head Start, rental assistance and federal Pell Grants for college students, according to a memo sent out Tuesday afternoon by OMB.

angrychair

(10,035 posts)
43. Sounds like most Republicans are ok with it
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 04:55 PM
Tuesday

Saw an article where some House member from Oklahoma said it was perfectly in their rights to stop funding anything they don't want to fund.

One of the craziest things I've ever heard a Republican say because we all know that sentiment only applies to a Republican administration.

Bengus81

(7,712 posts)
50. While that House members insurance and pension are safe and sound
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 05:12 PM
Tuesday

Pretty fucking easy to make statements like that when they know their life doesn't hang in the balance.

LetMyPeopleVote

(157,102 posts)
51. Democrats: 'Insane' Trump power grab on federal grants 'blatantly disobeys the law'
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 05:13 PM
Tuesday

Federal grants finance much of modern American life. If Team Trump simply stops the money from flowing, the consequences are difficult to measure.
https://bsky.app/profile/actiontogethernj.bsky.social/post/3lgsmt42wns2y

Democrats: 'Insane' Trump power grab on federal grants ‘blatantly disobeys the law’
Federal grants finance much of modern American life. If Team Trump simply stops the money from flowing, the consequences are difficult to measure.



https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/democrats-insane-trump-power-grab-federal-grants-blatantly-disobeys-la-rcna189562

The consequences of the Trump administration’s decision to halt almost all foreign aid continue to reverberate. The New York Times reported last week that the freeze is affecting international programs “aimed at alleviating hunger, disease and wartime suffering around the globe, as well as ones that help nations with economic development.”

It’s against this backdrop that the White House is apparently halting domestic grants, too. NBC News reported:

President Donald Trump has ordered a freeze to domestic and foreign federal aid in a sweeping effort to stop government funding for causes that don’t fit with his agenda. A memo sent out Monday night from Matthew J. Vaeth, acting director of the White House Office of Management and Budget, said the changes would go into effect Tuesday at 5 p.m. ET and relate to a string of executive orders Trump has signed since taking office last week.

The existence of the memo was first reported by Marisa Kabas, a New York-based journalist who published the document on Bluesky......

It is not a secret that Trump and his team, after running on an authoritarian-style campaign platform, want to wrestle control over the power of the purse, shifting authority from Congress to the White House, despite the framework of our constitutional system of government. It’s precisely why there’s been so much discussion of late about the Impoundment Control Act.

We’re now starting to see what those ambitions look like when pursued as a matter of government policy.,,,

What’s more, Schumer’s statement, referring to administration officials, added, “They say this is only temporary, but no one should believe that.”

As for the potential political impact, a Politico report noted that in the coming days, “we’re going to discover the full range of programs, projects and initiatives whose funds have suddenly been blocked. And given the sweeping scale of the order, it seems unlikely these will all be glowingly liberal, woke-tastic DEI projects in coastal America. This order is going to affect communities the length and breadth of the country.

“Be careful what you wish for, Mr. President.”

Javaman

(63,275 posts)
53. next will be medicare.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 05:15 PM
Tuesday

then they will reintroduce a new for profit version.

it's coming.

they are literally stealing the food out of peoples mouths.

mntleo2

(2,580 posts)
56. Trump is a ...
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 05:18 PM
Tuesday

big fat **g. His "trough feeders and he are freaks, deadbeat tax payors and greedy bastards

Passages

(1,605 posts)
60. Incredible pain to inflict on people.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 05:42 PM
Tuesday

Dems will respond tomorrow, as reported. It should be today.

Strelnikov_

(7,875 posts)
64. Medicaid pays for 60% of Nursing Home residents
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 06:44 PM
Tuesday

Better call Cooter Bob red hat to pick up MawPaw from the home.

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