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Found on FB via Dahlia Lithwick...
Gabriel Valdez
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They want us in disarray and it leaves us reeling and unsure of how to respond. You respond by being in array. You respond by calling fucking everyone and naming precise things you oppose. You point at the smash-and-grab and name it.
The most important thing I ever learned in sales is to ask the question and then let the awkward silence that follows reign. "He broke the law by trying to fire inspectors general. Do you intend to hold him accountable for that?"
Let them hem and haw a moment. Let them know how swiftly we can put them in disarray. When they answer with some bullshit, cut them off: "It's a yes or no question. Do you intend to hold him accountable? Yes or no?"
Always loop back to your question, not their deflection or distraction.
I love when they say, "We're just a constituent office, we don't handle legislative matters". Which is bullshit, I can tell you from working in them those offices are legislative in purpose. But fuck it, ask them anyway:
"Do you imagine this doesn't impact your constituents?"
Twist every silence where they cannot answer toward your point.
When they say, "I can't give my personal opinion on that issue," you tell them:
"I'm not interested in your personal opinion. I'm interested in this office's stance. I called this office, not you. Are you qualified to represent this office?"
Confront. Back to your question. Repeat. Yes/no.
When they say, "I don't know the senator's stance" or "I haven't spoken to the senator today, so I don't know", tell them:
"We pay for this office to know. We pay and resource this office so that you are trained to know. This has been in the news for months, it was announced for months, and the senator is this far behind the issue?"
My favorite line to use is, "We pay these offices to brief you on issues like these, so if you don't know, what are we paying for?"
We are their bosses. They are on our payroll. Never forget that. Don't act otherwise.
When someone wants you to be in disarray, when they cause shocks to exploit the moment, the only way to make them stop is to array yourselves before them in a way that outclasses what they anticipated. Make them pause to think, "Oh, what the fuck did we just bite off?"
We reel at chaos as if we don't know its opposite is organization. And we think, how can we be as powerful? You've got most of the world protesting this, ready to back us up, what could be the largest global array of organized activism that may have ever existed, waiting to be harnessed, waiting to be utilized, waiting to be called upon, to magnify every effort, most of the rest of the world cheering us to beat this, and here we are wondering if we should try, instead of just doing.
The only way to rise to meet the moment is to rise to meet the moment. All that backup, all those people waiting to be called upon, to support what we do, that won't last forever. You harness it, or you fail to. That's not something that happens to you, that's something that you make happen.
Traildogbob
(10,432 posts)Hugin
(35,207 posts)Bookmarking.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,920 posts)For what that's worth.
Maraya1969
(23,099 posts)orangecrush
(22,662 posts)Not going to lay down and die for the Nazis.
WinstonSmith4740
(3,214 posts)This jumped out at me
My late husband was that salesman..."Ask for the close, and then shut up". I've been saying this for years...Democrats need to hire sales managers and dump the damn political consultants.. And the media needs to follow this. Call them out, tell them to stop the Gish Gallop and just answer Yes or No.
Maraya1969
(23,099 posts)all over the house like "Think and grow rich' , "The power of positive thinking" and many more specifically for sales.
He became the top sales person in his industry! I wish I paid attention to what he was doing but I was mostly a kid.
Oh and he was here "illegally" for years. Long enough to marry my mother and have my brother and me. It turned out that the CEO pulled a bunch of strings, (because my dad - who was not educated past grade school) was making a bunch of money for them. So in the middle of the night 2 people came to our house - I was just a baby - and flew him to Canada and right back with a green card
So learning to be a good salesperson is a great thing. You are right that we need this in our party
WinstonSmith4740
(3,214 posts)Companies will move heaven and earth for someone who does this. My husband had to go to corporate board meetings in NY when he was a VP in California. He didn't wear ties, end of discussion. But he was making them a boatload of money, so when someone asked, "Who's the guy without the tie?" the attitude among the big-wigs was, "Oh, that's Mike. He's from California. It's OK."
BadgerMom
(3,022 posts)Hekate
(95,870 posts)duhneece
(4,292 posts)barbtries
(30,102 posts)I rarely reach a human so it's limited in scope, but I plan to use it as a guide the next time I reach a human at tillis's office.
link to thread https://www.facebook.com/search/top?q=dahlia%20lithwick
Maraya1969
(23,099 posts)something stupid that you want to respond to? I was in the doctor's waiting room the other day and these 2 older people who were on Medicare said, "Obama Care is awful"
I wish I had asked them, "Were you ever on Obama Care? because I am sure they weren't and they were just repeating MAGA bullshit. And then ask them why they said that?
dickthegrouch
(3,774 posts)And great information.
Shame it didnt come from a recognized Dem leader.
But no less important to spread far and wide.
Timeflyer
(2,812 posts)State the Obvious
(848 posts)Steve Bannon advised them to, "Flood the zone" and along with the help of Fox propaganda, that is exactly what they are doing. WE know this! AWARENESS is key!
littlemissmartypants
(26,351 posts)Master's Thesis at night. One of the books that was required during training for my day job was:
Getting to Yes: Negotiating Agreement Without Giving In
3 Sentence Summary
Getting To Yes is the seminal book on negotiating strategy and tactics. Each chapter offers concise, step-by-step instructions for reaching an agreement that satisfies both parties. Applicable whether youre an elder statesman working to pass a bill, or an employee seeking a raise, this is a must read on the art of win-win negotiations.
5 Key Takeaways
Separate the people from the problem.
Focus on interests, not positions.
Work together to create options that will satisfy both parties.
Insist on using objective criteria.
Do the opposite of what the other side expects.
Dont Bargain Over Positions
As more attention is paid to positions, less attention is devoted to meeting the underline concerns of the parties
Bargaining over positions creates incentives that stall settlement. In positional bargaining you try to improve the chance that any settlement reached is favorable to you by starting with an extreme position, by stubbornly holding on to it, by deceiving the other party as to your true views, and by making small concessions only as necessary to keep the negotiations going
(1) Separate the people from the problem
Participants should come to see themselves as working side-by-side, attacking the problem, not each other
(2) Focus on interests, not positions
(3) Before trying to reach agreements, invent options for mutual gain
(4) Insist on using objective criteria. This way neither party need give in to the other. Both can defer to a fair solution
1. Separate the People from the Problem
Deal with people problems directly. Dont try to solve them with substantive concessions
Understanding the other sides thinking is not simply a useful activity that will help you solve your problem. Their thinking is the problem. Whether you are making a deal or settling a dispute, differences are defined by the difference between your thinking and theirs.
Snip...much, much more here:
https://tylerdevries.com/book-summaries/getting-to-yes/
Also more:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Getting_to_Yes
Of course, all of the techniques require practice. So, you're going to have to find a partner that you can practice with.
There's more than I could share but I don't want everyone to think I'm a smarty pants. Lmk, if you'd like me to share more.
❤️pants
Blue Owl
(55,095 posts)Whats left of it ..