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babylonsister

(171,760 posts)
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 09:42 AM Tuesday

"We are their bosses. They are on our payroll. Never forget that. Don't act otherwise."

Found on FB via Dahlia Lithwick...

Gabriel Valdez
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They're attacking everything at once to prolong the moment of shock. They want you in disarray. And it works. Disaster capitalism can extend the smash-and-grab period longer when it extends the disaster longer.

They want us in disarray and it leaves us reeling and unsure of how to respond. You respond by being in array. You respond by calling fucking everyone and naming precise things you oppose. You point at the smash-and-grab and name it.

The most important thing I ever learned in sales is to ask the question and then let the awkward silence that follows reign. "He broke the law by trying to fire inspectors general. Do you intend to hold him accountable for that?"

Let them hem and haw a moment. Let them know how swiftly we can put them in disarray. When they answer with some bullshit, cut them off: "It's a yes or no question. Do you intend to hold him accountable? Yes or no?"

Always loop back to your question, not their deflection or distraction.

I love when they say, "We're just a constituent office, we don't handle legislative matters". Which is bullshit, I can tell you from working in them those offices are legislative in purpose. But fuck it, ask them anyway:
"Do you imagine this doesn't impact your constituents?"

Twist every silence where they cannot answer toward your point.

When they say, "I can't give my personal opinion on that issue," you tell them:
"I'm not interested in your personal opinion. I'm interested in this office's stance. I called this office, not you. Are you qualified to represent this office?"

Confront. Back to your question. Repeat. Yes/no.

When they say, "I don't know the senator's stance" or "I haven't spoken to the senator today, so I don't know", tell them:
"We pay for this office to know. We pay and resource this office so that you are trained to know. This has been in the news for months, it was announced for months, and the senator is this far behind the issue?"

My favorite line to use is, "We pay these offices to brief you on issues like these, so if you don't know, what are we paying for?"

We are their bosses. They are on our payroll. Never forget that. Don't act otherwise.


When someone wants you to be in disarray, when they cause shocks to exploit the moment, the only way to make them stop is to array yourselves before them in a way that outclasses what they anticipated. Make them pause to think, "Oh, what the fuck did we just bite off?"

We reel at chaos as if we don't know its opposite is organization. And we think, how can we be as powerful? You've got most of the world protesting this, ready to back us up, what could be the largest global array of organized activism that may have ever existed, waiting to be harnessed, waiting to be utilized, waiting to be called upon, to magnify every effort, most of the rest of the world cheering us to beat this, and here we are wondering if we should try, instead of just doing.
The only way to rise to meet the moment is to rise to meet the moment.
All that backup, all those people waiting to be called upon, to support what we do, that won't last forever. You harness it, or you fail to. That's not something that happens to you, that's something that you make happen.
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"We are their bosses. They are on our payroll. Never forget that. Don't act otherwise." (Original Post) babylonsister Tuesday OP
Outstanding!!!! Traildogbob Tuesday #1
Pretty good. Hugin Tuesday #2
Technically, all the Extreme Court justices work for us. JustABozoOnThisBus Tuesday #3
Yea, and that MF president that is occupying the White House Maraya1969 Tuesday #9
Just called all my elected officials this morning. orangecrush Tuesday #4
Excellent! Thank you! WinstonSmith4740 Tuesday #5
Oh wow that is true! My father was salesman and he had books Maraya1969 Tuesday #10
And here's the key!! WinstonSmith4740 Tuesday #18
K and R BadgerMom Tuesday #6
KnR Hekate Tuesday #7
Great info nt duhneece Tuesday #8
This is really good barbtries Tuesday #11
You know how you say, "I wish I said that" after someone says Maraya1969 Tuesday #12
Finally! Good tactics dickthegrouch Tuesday #13
This is good stuff--copying to use when calling their offices daily. Timeflyer Tuesday #14
Tactical Manipulation State the Obvious Tuesday #15
I worked in sales for a while as my day job while I worked on writing my littlemissmartypants Tuesday #16
The only place Dump is a dictator is in his own dementia-addled mind Blue Owl Tuesday #17
Bookmarked too.. TY! Cha Tuesday #19

orangecrush

(22,662 posts)
4. Just called all my elected officials this morning.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 10:16 AM
Tuesday


Not going to lay down and die for the Nazis.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,214 posts)
5. Excellent! Thank you!
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 10:48 AM
Tuesday

This jumped out at me

The most important thing I ever learned in sales is to ask the question and then let the awkward silence that follows reign.

My late husband was that salesman..."Ask for the close, and then shut up". I've been saying this for years...Democrats need to hire sales managers and dump the damn political consultants.. And the media needs to follow this. Call them out, tell them to stop the Gish Gallop and just answer Yes or No.

Maraya1969

(23,099 posts)
10. Oh wow that is true! My father was salesman and he had books
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 11:33 AM
Tuesday

all over the house like "Think and grow rich' , "The power of positive thinking" and many more specifically for sales.

He became the top sales person in his industry! I wish I paid attention to what he was doing but I was mostly a kid.

Oh and he was here "illegally" for years. Long enough to marry my mother and have my brother and me. It turned out that the CEO pulled a bunch of strings, (because my dad - who was not educated past grade school) was making a bunch of money for them. So in the middle of the night 2 people came to our house - I was just a baby - and flew him to Canada and right back with a green card


So learning to be a good salesperson is a great thing. You are right that we need this in our party

WinstonSmith4740

(3,214 posts)
18. And here's the key!!
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 07:00 PM
Tuesday
...(because my dad - who was not educated past grade school) was making a bunch of money for them.

Companies will move heaven and earth for someone who does this. My husband had to go to corporate board meetings in NY when he was a VP in California. He didn't wear ties, end of discussion. But he was making them a boatload of money, so when someone asked, "Who's the guy without the tie?" the attitude among the big-wigs was, "Oh, that's Mike. He's from California. It's OK."

barbtries

(30,102 posts)
11. This is really good
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 11:38 AM
Tuesday

I rarely reach a human so it's limited in scope, but I plan to use it as a guide the next time I reach a human at tillis's office.

link to thread https://www.facebook.com/search/top?q=dahlia%20lithwick

Maraya1969

(23,099 posts)
12. You know how you say, "I wish I said that" after someone says
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 11:39 AM
Tuesday

something stupid that you want to respond to? I was in the doctor's waiting room the other day and these 2 older people who were on Medicare said, "Obama Care is awful"

I wish I had asked them, "Were you ever on Obama Care? because I am sure they weren't and they were just repeating MAGA bullshit. And then ask them why they said that?

dickthegrouch

(3,774 posts)
13. Finally! Good tactics
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 11:43 AM
Tuesday

And great information.
Shame it didn’t come from a recognized Dem leader.
But no less important to spread far and wide.

State the Obvious

(848 posts)
15. Tactical Manipulation
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 12:29 PM
Tuesday

Steve Bannon advised them to, "Flood the zone" and along with the help of Fox propaganda, that is exactly what they are doing. WE know this! AWARENESS is key!

littlemissmartypants

(26,351 posts)
16. I worked in sales for a while as my day job while I worked on writing my
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 01:12 PM
Tuesday

Master's Thesis at night. One of the books that was required during training for my day job was:



Getting to Yes: Negotiating Agreement Without Giving In

3 Sentence Summary

Getting To Yes is the seminal book on negotiating strategy and tactics. Each chapter offers concise, step-by-step instructions for reaching an agreement that satisfies both parties. Applicable whether you’re an elder statesman working to pass a bill, or an employee seeking a raise, this is a must read on the art of win-win negotiations.

5 Key Takeaways

• Separate the people from the problem.

• Focus on interests, not positions.

• Work together to create options that will satisfy both parties.

• Insist on using objective criteria.

• Do the opposite of what the other side expects.


Don’t Bargain Over Positions

• As more attention is paid to positions, less attention is devoted to meeting the underline concerns of the parties

• Bargaining over positions creates incentives that stall settlement. In positional bargaining you try to improve the chance that any settlement reached is favorable to you by starting with an extreme position, by stubbornly holding on to it, by deceiving the other party as to your true views, and by making small concessions only as necessary to keep the negotiations going

• (1) Separate the people from the problem

• Participants should come to see themselves as working side-by-side, attacking the problem, not each other

• (2) Focus on interests, not positions

• (3) Before trying to reach agreements, invent options for mutual gain

• (4) Insist on using objective criteria. This way neither party need give in to the other. Both can defer to a fair solution

1. Separate the People from the Problem
Deal with people problems directly. Don’t try to solve them with substantive concessions
Understanding the other side’s thinking is not simply a useful activity that will help you solve your problem. Their thinking is the problem. Whether you are making a deal or settling a dispute, differences are defined by the difference between your thinking and theirs.

Snip...much, much more here:
https://tylerdevries.com/book-summaries/getting-to-yes/
Also more:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Getting_to_Yes

Of course, all of the techniques require practice. So, you're going to have to find a partner that you can practice with.

There's more than I could share but I don't want everyone to think I'm a smarty pants. Lmk, if you'd like me to share more.


❤️pants



Blue Owl

(55,095 posts)
17. The only place Dump is a dictator is in his own dementia-addled mind
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 02:07 PM
Tuesday

What’s left of it…..

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