The holocaust started as a mass deportation.

[Swede]

[Irish_Dem]

1. I was just saying the same thing on another thread.

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Hitler originally wanted to deport people to Madagascar, an island off the west coast of Africa.
It was decided this was too expensive and complicated.

So then he decided to build concentration camps in Europe.
But then it was expensive to house, feed, clothe and manage prisoners.
We know what he did then.

[speak easy]

2. " it was expensive to house, feed, clothe and manage prisoners."

Trump threatens exile for Americans who are ‘repeat offenders’ and ‘violent criminals’'

“We’re going to get approval, hopefully, to get them the hell out of our country, along with others. Let them be brought to a foreign land and maintained by others for a very small fee, as opposed to be maintained in our jails for massive amounts of money, including the private prison companies that charge us a fortune.

https://news.yahoo.com/news/trump-threatens-exile-americans-repeat-232214207.html

[Littlered]

6. That is partially correct.

Kudos for being aware of this. I doubt many people have ever heard of it. Actually it was Reinhard Heydrich and Adolf Eichmann that came up with that plan. And, some well meaning interference made it impossible. Kinda upsetting in a way. The well meaning intention of the west is really what led to the true holocaust. In case you are interested or haven’t read it. https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-madagascar-plan-2

Anyway, it’s just short of infuriating seeing people conflating trump’s deportation plan and the holocaust. It cheapens the true horror. If they seriously can’t see the differences, that is a problem. Some in our party are failing to read the room on this one.

[IrishBubbaLiberal]

8. Yes, and NO

“cheapens the true horror”

No. It doesn’t.

Because the whole point is that’s how the horror started.

Too many people hold out in the belief that it’s not going to now repeat the horror of Nazi Germany’s mass extermination of millions

BUT TRUMP IS INDEED NOW FOLLOWING THE SAME DAMN HORRIBLY AWFUL
STEPS OF NAZI GERMANY.

Now it the time to fight back! Not later.
Later is too late

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Trump’s Gestapo Raids -
https://prospect.org/blogs-and-newsletters/tap/2025-01-27-trumps-gestapo-raids/

[Littlered]

26. There is absolutely no correlation.

It just lives in the over active imaginations of those who believe themselves to be prophets. Just because someone uses a term and tries to conflate that with present day doesn’t make it so.

[Irish_Dem]

9. I strongly disagree with you that it is partially correct.

Your reference only adds more data to my comments.

"The plan was to be financed by a special bank managing confiscated Jewish property and by contributions exacted from world Jewry."

Not only was moving and housing 4 million European Jews to Madagascar expensive, the plan was to use confiscated Jewish money and goods. Which Hitler and his generals wanted for themselves.

Yes the Madagascar plan was temporarily halted due to the British naval blockade and then the Battle of Britain.
But then the Final Solution Plan took the place of the Madagascar Plan.

The Madagascar Plan assumed that many Jews would die in the harsh environment of Madagascar.

It is reasonable to assume that with the delay of the Madagascar Plan, Hitler realized it would be cheaper and easier
to arrange the Jewish deaths in Europe, rather than trying to fight the British blockades and spending the confiscated Jewish cash.

[Prof. Toru Tanaka]

15. Do you think they are going to stop after deporting illegal immigrants?

“First they came…..”

[Littlered]

24. Fair enough.

I don’t believe they will ever be done. And if he is ever “done.” Based on his history, he will declare it done and mission accomplished, followed by look what (I, me, I, me, breaks arm patting himself on the back) I have done.

[Dan]

18. I don't think anyone is trying to cheapen or diminish the horror

Of what the NAZI’s did in Germanys name.

IMHO, what people are posting is the possibility. Trump is a lot of evil things and really is mentally ill in a very negative way. Trump has surrounded himself and composed a Cabinet of evil people. Trump is purging the government of competent, law-abiding morally decent people.

The only book that Trump appeared to have read or is reading is ‘Mein Kampf’ and reasonable people might argue that he following the playbook of the author.

A post below by a person from Mississippi stated that they are building barracks in that state to house ‘who’? And that some southern people would gladly populate the guard populations with people that would make the Nazi concentration guards look like amateurs. Not having had the pleasure of being from Mississippi (or the Deep South) I have to take his/her word for it. From my own experiences of knowing people from that region, I don’t doubt the validity of what they have said about the mind-set of people from there.

In Data processing - when developing a system, we did what we called a ‘proof of concept’ to prove what we planned would work on a large scale development. I have no doubt that the Millers, etc., of this administration would like a test case to prove to themselves that the MAGA hoard would not only intern but eliminate people when given the word (and sadly I say, opportunity).

Trump when he talks about illegal immigrants and getting rid of them, he always at some point adds ‘and others’. So, do I believe that a man that is mentally ill, surrounds himself with others that hate others and is removing all decent/law-abiding people from government. At the same time promoting yes-people at all levels of the Federal Government combined with some of the same type of people at the State level, with a ‘new laws creating’ SCOTUS try to repeat the horrors of the Holocaust? Yes, the MAGA have shown that they are immune from Truth, Decency and Morality, all in the name of (take your pick).

So, when Trump and party seeking new lows finds the right buttons to push to entertain his base, the GOP, SCOTUS and MAGA will be all in, IMHO.

[Littlered]

25. My opinion.

They aren’t, nazis they aren’t fascists. And they aren’t building permanent internment camps. And yes he has used the term others, because not everyone he wants to deport is here as an illegal immigrant. Technically speaking. And hyperbole aside.

It’s almost as if people have no real knowledge of the holocaust or its roots, other than the mass murder part.

[Dan]

27. I beg to differ...

But it is what it is.

[IbogaProject]

3. And at least one location was rejected by religious leaders

As they only wanted themost faithful to come.

[AverageOldGuy]

4. This is some sick shit

MSNBC is showing a video clip of DHS Secretary Kristi Noem, decked out in a flak vest, standing in front of a crowd of ICE agents speaking to them, I guess encouraging them before they start terrorizing innocent people.

These people are exactly like Trump -- fake, phony, playing dress-up with other people's lives.


I can't wait until I encounter an ICE agent. I'll tell him:

"I know why you are working for ICE."

"Why?"

"Because you made C's and D's in high school and the jocks made fun of you!"

[Johnny2X2X]

5. Know that there are concentration camps being built right now

Military bases across the South were rodered to build large barracks. So yeah, we're seeing flights to otehr countries now, but that's not feasible long term, these camps will start to fill up and then who knows hat happens next. But know that Trump and this administration have assured horrific treatment of the detainees there as they've dehumanized these people to the point that the guards will think their lives have zero value.

Atrocities are a certain, whether it amounts to large scale extermination is at question.

[AverageOldGuy]

7. I'm a Mississippi native

I left in 1962 when I turned 18 and never went back except for funerals. I worked for several years in central Appalachia. I have a PhD in WhiteTrashOlogy.

I guarantee you if Trump opens concentration camps at Southern military bases, the local white trash will get the jobs as guards and they will make Nazi concentration camp guards look like amateurs.

[IrishBubbaLiberal]

10. Auschwitz took time. Trump is indeed following the initial pattern of Nazi Germany

https://bsky.app/profile/auschwitzmemorial.bsky.social/post/3lgpom6i56x2s

Auschwitz was at the end of a long process. It did not start from gas chambers.

This hatred was gradually developed by humans. From ideas, words, stereotypes & prejudice through legal exclusion, dehumanization & escalating violence... to systematic and industrial murder.

Auschwitz took time.

[Swede]

11. At the beginning Hitler wasn't Hitler.

nt

[xocetaceans]

12. When discussing the Holocaust, it should actually be discussed, not made into a meme. On some level, that is very...

...disrespectful to history as it cheapens the general understanding of why it happened and weakens a society's resistance to the repetition of such historical atrocities by that cheapening.

Here is a timeline discussing that atrocity and how it actually began (and that beginning is not as indicated in the OP's meme) :

Timeline of the Holocaust: 1933-1945

1933


January 30
Adolf Hitler appointed Chancellor of Germany

March 22
Dachau concentration camp opens

April 1
Boycott of Jewish shops and businesses

April 7
Laws for Reestablishment of the Civil Service barred Jews from holding civil service, university, and state positions

April 26
Gestapo established

May 10
Public burning of books written by Jews, political dissidents, and others not approved by the state

July 14
Law stripping East European Jewish immigrants of German citizenship



1934


August 2
Hitler proclaims himself Führer und Reichskanzler (Leader...). Armed forces must now swear allegiance to him


...


https://www.museumoftolerance.com/education/teacher-resources/holocaust-resources/timeline-of-the-holocaust.html

Examine the list at the Museum of Tolerance and see what parallels may be made between Trump's plans for the US and how the Holocaust happened in Germany.

[Swede]

16. Memes is how the world of social media speaks.

Don't like it, move on.

[xocetaceans]

17. You're the one misrepresenting history. That is the surprising part. At least, be accurate in what you post. n/t

[Swede]

19. Prove it.

nt

[xocetaceans]

20. See above, but if you're comfortable propagating disinformation, that's on you. n/t

[Turbineguy]

13. How many of his pardoned J6 goons are ready to join

right wing death squads? (The hallmark of shit-hole countries)

[IrishBubbaLiberal]

14. Hate IS the Trump Regime. Just as Hitler

Hate. Hate is growing in the US led by Trump and
his numerous white supremacy aides,

And Hate of and by the Republicans in power.

The Hate Republicans spew daily.
The Hate Trump spews daily.

The Hate FOX News spews endlessly
The Hate on ‘X’ , pushed by a neo-Nazi sympathetic tech billionaire asshole
—————

REPEAT…

Auschwitz was at the end of a long process. It did not start from gas chambers.

This hatred was gradually developed by humans. From ideas, words, stereotypes & prejudice through legal exclusion, dehumanization & escalating violence... to systematic and industrial murder.

Auschwitz took time.

.

[Dan]

21. I guess after reading the first 18 posts on this thread....

The question might soon be facing us is - whose side will you be on?

[Kid Berwyn]

22. It's no coincidence.

These days also are part of the NAZI conspiracy to destroy the United States of America, the nation that beat the fascists in 1945. Unfortunately, they were not destroyed. Their pre- and post-war "friends" played important roles in creating the current circumstances. After JFK was assassinated:

Two members of the Warren Commission helped bring NAZIs into US mainstream.



And that played a key role in the rise of post-war fascism. Allen Dulles, as a top official of the OSS and CIA, incorporated NAZI war criminals into the CIA from its founding. Before the war, he and his Wall Street chums invested heavily in Germany.

John McCloy, as High Commissioner for Germany, allowed Klaus Barbie, Alfred Krupp, eight members of his board, and who-knows-who-else to escape justice. In the U.S., he proposed sending Japanese Americans to internment (concentration) camps.

Of course, Dulles and McCloy also were barons of Wall Street and Beltway Insiders, at the heart of the military industrial complex. We all can see what that means for the United States today.

Background:

The American who let the Nazis rebuild Germany

https://thecritic.co.uk/issues/november-2021/the-american-who-let-the-nazis-rebuild-germany/

CIA and NAZI War Criminals

https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB146/index.htm

In addition to ignoring the CIA and its Castro assassination business with the MAFIA from before JFK was in office, the NAZI connections of two prominent Warren Commission are NEVER brought up anytime the Warren Commission is mentioned on TV, in the NYT or ever by TIME-LIFE.

[Dan]

23. I read on Reddit , not sure how true it is but

France ready to send troops to Greenland, .

So, are we willing to die for Trump or against Trump?

My God, it hasn’t even been two weeks.