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RockRaven

(16,721 posts)
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 11:51 PM Monday

One thing about these EO's which is both terrifying and we can do nothing about

is that if someone puts TCF in front of a camera/press corps and hands him something to sign, he will do so without knowing a damn thing about the piece of paper he is signing.

I just saw a piece of media which showed his signings on Inauguration Day, and his babble clearly revealed, repeatedly, that he didn't know what the heck he was signing or what it meant.

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Frasier Balzov

(3,711 posts)
3. Do you realize that the same thing was said about Joe Biden?
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 12:09 AM
Tuesday

This only confirms my belief that the concept of the President as a singular person is quaint and outdated.

The job has grown so much that it can only be described as a team.

The person of the President can certainly pick and choose what his or her involvement will be in various aspects of domestic and foreign policy, but as to the abounding rest the President is a speech reader and a signing machine.

ITAL

(927 posts)
7. Presidents tend to make the final decision and set the tone
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 01:02 AM
Tuesday

But yes, the presidency is as much about the team as it is about the occupant of the big chair. I'm reading a book on Van Buren right now, and I get the feeling that's always been the case.

hunter

(39,191 posts)
5. The fuckwit king is writing checks he can't cover.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 12:44 AM
Tuesday

Who is going to have the guts to call him on it?

Bread and Circuses

(394 posts)
6. There was post here or BlueSky showing that ...
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 12:59 AM
Tuesday

The Project 2025 authors are writing his E.O’s

I’m willing to bet they’re writing everything…

no_hypocrisy

(49,754 posts)
8. Cold comfort, but under Contract Law (Restatement and caselaw),
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 04:56 AM
Tuesday

if a document is signed without the signer knowing the contents of that document, the document is invalid and unenforceable.

Example: I had to take a Will to be signed by an ill, elderly man in a nursing home. It was obvious that he didn't understand what was in the Will and that he didn't appreciate it was his Will. But yet, there was his stepdaughter by his side, instructing him to sign, sign, sign. I grabbed the document away and told her if she continued, I'd tear up the Will and throw the confetti in her face. In any case, the Will wasn't signed that day.

Meowmee

(6,560 posts)
10. Yes
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 06:22 AM
Tuesday

That happened last time too- I remember at least two or three times, and once where he was confused that he was supposed to be signing something and walked out of the room or something.

Hugin

(35,207 posts)
11. Trump is only pulling the trigger...
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 06:46 AM
Tuesday

I’ve been asking who exactly is feeding the ammo belt. Few names come forward because I believe that in actuality there’s very few and NONE of them have immunity. Yes, Trump could and may have already pardoned them. That’s different. Pardons don’t work that way and aren’t intended to.

Ultimately, what is going to happen is Trump is going to turn both pardons and EOs to shit like every thing he’s ever touched.

Tickle

(3,335 posts)
12. What? He seems to know
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 06:52 AM
Tuesday

exactly what he was doing. When the day comes that he is accountable for his actions, I want them to know he did these actions of sound mind.
Not sure why we keep giving him excuses. Oh he has dementia, oh Elon is running the country.
There's no documentation to prove any of these findings. It's all trump and when Trump goes down it's because he was of sound mind and in control so hang the SOB!

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