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He's fucking freezing SNAP? (Original Post) choie Monday OP
Only until he can kill it completely. yourout Monday #1
Just to intimidate the peasants and let them know who's boss. He'll give it back Wingus Dingus Monday #2
Not a surprise. Still, federal food aid has always benefitted farmers & used to be popular with them. Hekate Monday #3
All this shit was in Project 2025 iemanja Monday #4
If not all of it, a vast majority of it was. mwmisses4289 Tuesday #70
He trying to starve people to death in the US. Bluethroughu Monday #5
This is illegal usurpation of Congressional authority Arazi Monday #6
As powerless as they were yesterday, and will be tomorrow, that's where. RockRaven Monday #10
When are people going to get that? Hekate Monday #19
Congressional Dems have standing to sue Arazi Monday #22
Remind me which judge type people have the ultimate say on that... RockRaven Monday #25
Dems have put judges in place Arazi Monday #29
Counting is hard, I know. One two three. One two three four five six. RockRaven Monday #32
It really sucks bpositive Monday #26
Amazing isn't it. BamaRefugee Tuesday #48
Thanks to the electoral college and a corrupt supreme court, Mysterian Tuesday #66
Funny how that works every fucking time. Autumn Tuesday #68
Messaging, though. BadgerMom Tuesday #38
Possibly watching reruns of Mr Rogers Neighborhood at Garlands home but to be fair SCOTUS says tRump is a special boy yaesu Monday #12
I believe that's an illegal order. sakabatou Monday #7
Trump loves making illegal orders. He knows no one will stop him. Irish_Dem Tuesday #58
It's a non-hyperbolic reign of terror. UTUSN Monday #8
If you hear a MAGAt/Con/Repug, or a nonvoter, complain about this remind them RockRaven Monday #9
Let them eat cake. jls4561 Monday #11
Sure - it hurts people who (probably) didn't vote for him Retrograde Monday #13
okay. reminder to self... chaos is the intent stillcool Monday #14
Slow genocide. moondust Monday #15
Yes, it looks like a serious population reduction. ananda Monday #28
Maybe. moondust Monday #31
What I think Trump-Musk wants is a country... ananda Tuesday #67
The new gap will be filled by Russia and China. Irish_Dem Tuesday #59
yup ananda Tuesday #60
I'm not seeing any MSM confirmation of this, only foreign aid freeze. nt yaesu Monday #16
All federal aid is frozen iemanja Monday #21
Thank you. nt yaesu Monday #23
There was specific info about payments to individuals not being frozen. I'm thinking they're relying on the fact LauraInLA Monday #33
The memo says payments to individuals will continue but doesn't outline state level funding uponit7771 Monday #17
THIS. nt scipan Tuesday #47
"The use of Federal resources to advance Marxist equity, transgenderism, and green new deal social engineering policies" HereForTheParty Monday #18
That's on an actual government document. It's like a brain-dead Freeper wrote it. Wingus Dingus Monday #20
Sounds like a script from his MAGA/KKK rallies tulipsandroses Monday #27
Straight up fascism orangecrush Monday #30
So much for the House controlling the purse strings. gab13by13 Monday #24
Sounds like a clickbait article Greg_In_SF Monday #34
Knowing that orange shitstain,... LudwigPastorius Tuesday #35
Thankfully Greg_In_SF Tuesday #37
Watch for his SNAP beneficiary KKKultists to worship him all the more fervently Orrex Tuesday #36
SNAP? How Much More can I hate this "man". Yeah, i know some of this was talked about. What the hell about Medicaid?!!! electric_blue68 Tuesday #39
Feels like there's nothing he HASN'T frozen at this point. Karasu Tuesday #40
This will impact farmers as much as people in poverty. 33taw Tuesday #41
The cruelty is the point notinkansas Tuesday #42
This message was self-deleted by its author Daleuhlmann Tuesday #43
This message was self-deleted by its author Daleuhlmann Tuesday #44
Another Order That Will Be DOA in the Courts! Daleuhlmann Tuesday #45
The article does not mention SNAP at all Ms. Toad Tuesday #46
I thought SNAP was administered by grants to the states Arazi Tuesday #49
Yes, SNAP is funding administered by the state. choie Tuesday #50
But that $$ comes from grants from the feds? Arazi Tuesday #52
You're correct, funding is federal. choie Tuesday #54
It is administered by the States, Ms. Toad Tuesday #65
It isn't given to individuals obamanut2012 Tuesday #61
So individuals don't get a card equivalent to a debit card. Ms. Toad Tuesday #64
These kinds of threads are getting painfully numerous AZJonnie Tuesday #51
Pretty clear, they just froze all indirect payments JCMach1 Tuesday #56
It is getting to the point I will be trashing threads again. valleyrogue Tuesday #62
No it's not. This is the real deal Arazi Tuesday #63
they actually mentioned transgendering in the memo Skittles Tuesday #53
The directives are so vague that even Federal workers are struggling Mike 03 Tuesday #55
oh they will get to SS and Medicare Skittles Tuesday #57
He will be sued videohead5 Tuesday #69

Wingus Dingus

(8,476 posts)
2. Just to intimidate the peasants and let them know who's boss. He'll give it back
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 10:24 PM
Monday

before there's riots.

Hekate

(95,871 posts)
3. Not a surprise. Still, federal food aid has always benefitted farmers & used to be popular with them.
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 10:25 PM
Monday

RockRaven

(16,721 posts)
10. As powerless as they were yesterday, and will be tomorrow, that's where.
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 10:30 PM
Monday

Turns out that voting (or not voting) matters.

A lot.

Every time.

Over time.

Hekate

(95,871 posts)
19. When are people going to get that?
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 10:37 PM
Monday

goddam hard for any Dem in the House or Senate to “do” anything when the MAGAGOPs have a trifecta

Altho my Senator Schiff has been speaking out on MSNBC a lot lately

Arazi

(7,319 posts)
22. Congressional Dems have standing to sue
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 10:42 PM
Monday

And they need to get out in front of this tonight.

Where’s our leadership ffs?!

No more passivity please. Time to get very VERY loud. This is a total power grab to neuter all of Congress. Even Republicans should protest this illegal move

RockRaven

(16,721 posts)
25. Remind me which judge type people have the ultimate say on that...
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 10:44 PM
Monday

And the general philosophy and past behavior of these ones, and how that relates to what you are asserting.

Arazi

(7,319 posts)
29. Dems have put judges in place
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 11:07 PM
Monday

Time to ante up on where they stand on our Constitution.

And ffs, this is going to gut red state governors as hard as blue states.

RockRaven

(16,721 posts)
32. Counting is hard, I know. One two three. One two three four five six.
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 11:40 PM
Monday

Ugh... Who can keep it straight!?

BamaRefugee

(3,742 posts)
48. Amazing isn't it.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 02:59 AM
Tuesday

But the other side never never ever stops, in or out of power, thinking up an endless buffet of skullduggery, which has a massive cumulative effect, yet we keep saying they’re stupid.

Mysterian

(5,263 posts)
66. Thanks to the electoral college and a corrupt supreme court,
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 10:44 AM
Tuesday

and of course the undemocratic apportionment of senators. Yes, rotten relics of our past have come back to spoil democracy in the U.S.A.

BadgerMom

(3,022 posts)
38. Messaging, though.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 12:27 AM
Tuesday

We are powerless except for our voices. We can express what we would do differently. We can reach out to those hurting because of this. WE CAN BEGIN ASKING FOR THEIR VOTE NOW!

yaesu

(8,457 posts)
12. Possibly watching reruns of Mr Rogers Neighborhood at Garlands home but to be fair SCOTUS says tRump is a special boy
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 10:31 PM
Monday

and can break any law in the land. Welcome to fascist shithole USA.

Irish_Dem

(62,129 posts)
58. Trump loves making illegal orders. He knows no one will stop him.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 05:56 AM
Tuesday

And it demonstrates his total power and control.

RockRaven

(16,721 posts)
9. If you hear a MAGAt/Con/Repug, or a nonvoter, complain about this remind them
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 10:28 PM
Monday

that this is what they chose.

jls4561

(1,872 posts)
11. Let them eat cake.
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 10:30 PM
Monday

Yeah, I know she really said brioche, but either way, it didn’t work out well for her.

Retrograde

(10,849 posts)
13. Sure - it hurts people who (probably) didn't vote for him
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 10:32 PM
Monday

He's all about cruelty and pettiness

ananda

(31,136 posts)
28. Yes, it looks like a serious population reduction.
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 11:04 PM
Monday

The USA will not be the USA much longer.

I think the new gap will be filled by Trump
friendly foreigners.

I've thought this for awhile now.

moondust

(20,638 posts)
31. Maybe.
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 11:28 PM
Monday

Last edited Tue Jan 28, 2025, 11:58 AM - Edit history (1)

Add up all his actions hostile to public health, from drinking bleach to appointing an anti-vax nutjob to head HHS--and everything in between--and it starts to become plausible.

A disturbing thought on the 80th anniversary of the liberation of a genocidal death camp where between 1.1 and 1.5 million were murdered by criminals who thought they were superior.

ananda

(31,136 posts)
67. What I think Trump-Musk wants is a country...
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 11:06 AM
Tuesday

filled with wealthy white plutocrats with everyone
else working as slaves.

Talk me down on this if you wish.

iemanja

(55,306 posts)
21. All federal aid is frozen
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 10:40 PM
Monday
https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/trump-administration-orders-sweeping-freeze-of-all-federal-aid/ar-AA1xYihL?ocid=BingNewsSerp

Grants and loans are also frozen. There are multiple threads with different news sources on the grants and loans.

(oops. Same source. I'll look for another one).

LauraInLA

(1,582 posts)
33. There was specific info about payments to individuals not being frozen. I'm thinking they're relying on the fact
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 11:41 PM
Monday

that there will be a huge outcry over Medicaid and SNAP, and those programs will be worked in. It’s disgusting, but it’s been their playbook all week.

uponit7771

(92,231 posts)
17. The memo says payments to individuals will continue but doesn't outline state level funding
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 10:35 PM
Monday

This is hot garbage showmanship

HereForTheParty

(521 posts)
18. "The use of Federal resources to advance Marxist equity, transgenderism, and green new deal social engineering policies"
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 10:36 PM
Monday

Jeebus.

tulipsandroses

(6,625 posts)
27. Sounds like a script from his MAGA/KKK rallies
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 11:04 PM
Monday

He's drunk with power. It may end up biting him in the ass.

Greg_In_SF

(153 posts)
34. Sounds like a clickbait article
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 11:50 PM
Monday

"Could affect SNAP". Three unnamed sources.

The only confirmation I can find is that certain foreign aid has been halted.

LudwigPastorius

(11,421 posts)
35. Knowing that orange shitstain,...
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 12:13 AM
Tuesday

this probably means he'll freeze SNAP funding to blue states only.

electric_blue68

(19,567 posts)
39. SNAP? How Much More can I hate this "man". Yeah, i know some of this was talked about. What the hell about Medicaid?!!!
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 12:38 AM
Tuesday

I'm not on SNAP, had been. Dammit, people need this!!!

My facility apt, and meals is partly based on Medicaid (+SS, and NYS Payments)!

Oh, I managed to tamp down most of my anxieties, and fears pre J20.

:donotpanic: :donotpanic: :donotpanic:

Ok, not panicking (yet?).

Response to choie (Original post)

Response to choie (Original post)

Daleuhlmann

(62 posts)
45. Another Order That Will Be DOA in the Courts!
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 01:42 AM
Tuesday

Somebody should have set a burning match this two-page memo! It violates not only the anti-impoundment law, but the Constitution's separation.of powers.

Ms. Toad

(35,796 posts)
46. The article does not mention SNAP at all
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 02:06 AM
Tuesday

And specifically says the freeze does not apply to direct said to individuals.

Arazi

(7,319 posts)
49. I thought SNAP was administered by grants to the states
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 03:03 AM
Tuesday

I honestly don’t have a handle on that tho.

Medicaid is grant funded to the states to iirc

Ms. Toad

(35,796 posts)
65. It is administered by the States,
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 10:41 AM
Tuesday

But the programs are administered for the benefit of individuals who are people receive the equivalent of a debit card to buy food for themselves and their families.

Not to mention, the SNAP funds are not funds that are arguably used to promote a woke agenda (etc.). Read the actual document and didn't buy trouble where there isn't any (yet).

Ms. Toad

(35,796 posts)
64. So individuals don't get a card equivalent to a debit card.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 10:33 AM
Tuesday

Which they can use to buy food?

It must certainly is given to individuals.

AZJonnie

(227 posts)
51. These kinds of threads are getting painfully numerous
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 03:52 AM
Tuesday

I, for one, would appreciate a title like "Trump OMB order is unclear about whether SNAP payments could be halted" instead of terrifying declarations like the OP here? I feel there's enough verifiably terrifying shit going on this past week without people framing their speculation as if were fact in their thread titles. But maybe that's just me, and if so, I apologize for bringing it up

JCMach1

(28,237 posts)
56. Pretty clear, they just froze all indirect payments
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 05:25 AM
Tuesday

Only excluding Social Security and Medicare.

Everything

valleyrogue

(1,360 posts)
62. It is getting to the point I will be trashing threads again.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 08:01 AM
Tuesday

This is clearly click bait b.s.

Arazi

(7,319 posts)
63. No it's not. This is the real deal
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 08:18 AM
Tuesday

Traitor cut off all federal funding which includes all grants to states and that means SNAP along with everything else

Skittles

(161,186 posts)
53. they actually mentioned transgendering in the memo
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 04:18 AM
Tuesday

FUCK EVERYONE WHO VOTED FOR THESE FUCKING ASS CLOWNS

Mike 03

(17,927 posts)
55. The directives are so vague that even Federal workers are struggling
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 04:33 AM
Tuesday

to understand them.

I am slowly making my way through this subReddit for Federal Workers. There's a lot of information here about a "sweeping freeze in federal aid" that appears to exclude only Social Security and Medicare if I'm understanding this correctly.

https://www.reddit.com/r/fednews/new/

This website is constantly updating with new posts. This website is overwhelming (and sad) but it offers a good way to try to understand what Trump is doing to our government and its agencies.

videohead5

(2,526 posts)
69. He will be sued
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 11:13 AM
Tuesday

President Biden put a record number of judges on the federal bench. This will be blocked within a few hours if not minutes.

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