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samplegirl

(12,315 posts)
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 10:05 PM 23 hrs ago

My girlfriend's husband died tonight from Covid

A three month battle trying to get well. Even survived being on a ventilator. But could not rally I am beyond words Trump's dreadful disease still lurks and kills, and I hold him liable.

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My girlfriend's husband died tonight from Covid (Original Post) samplegirl 23 hrs ago OP
Was he vaccinated? DURHAM D 22 hrs ago #1
One of my neighbors was extremely sick from Covid pneumonia. Irish_Dem 22 hrs ago #6
I recently tested positive for covid. DURHAM D 22 hrs ago #8
I had nine vaxes so far, got covid in Nov. Irish_Dem 22 hrs ago #9
Hope your cholesterol gets right. nt DURHAM D 22 hrs ago #10
Tnx. Irish_Dem 14 hrs ago #117
Gracious! I hope your cholesterol goes down. LoisB 22 hrs ago #13
Same here. Ms. Toad 22 hrs ago #24
Look into Novavax for your next shot IbogaProject 21 hrs ago #52
I'm not fond of the risk profile. Ms. Toad 20 hrs ago #57
Ohhh, boy. : ( Good luck! electric_blue68 19 hrs ago #70
Just relaying my expierience IbogaProject 10 hrs ago #138
After the first one or two, I had no soreness. Ms. Toad 9 hrs ago #161
My work manager has that very same spike since her COVID bout. John1956PA 22 hrs ago #26
When did she have covid? Is she taking a statin? Irish_Dem 14 hrs ago #120
Glad to hear bdamomma 21 hrs ago #30
Yes I have all of the vaxes. Irish_Dem 14 hrs ago #119
Good luck! In case something my doc taught me last month might help, here are two studies on almonds and cholesterol. mahina 21 hrs ago #53
And organic food ananda 16 hrs ago #112
Thank you! Irish_Dem 14 hrs ago #118
Good samplegirl 19 hrs ago #65
Dang! Good luck on getting normal numbers again! electric_blue68 19 hrs ago #68
It is up to the meds, I already have a strict diet and exercise every day. Irish_Dem 14 hrs ago #116
Just a note... lonely bird 9 hrs ago #164
Interesting, I did not know that. Irish_Dem 7 hrs ago #170
Yeah lonely bird 4 hrs ago #183
I am at 8 vaccinations LetMyPeopleVote 18 hrs ago #72
Same here Sundance1220 14 hrs ago #113
Were we told in the stacks 10 hrs ago #155
It was my understanding that they hope that some day it will be like the flu shot LetMyPeopleVote 10 hrs ago #156
The flu shot is like this. in the stacks 10 hrs ago #157
Right. They came out with a newer, reformulated booster a few months ago due to the new strains. Keep up I guess? Evolve Dammit 2 hrs ago #194
I was miserably sick and am vaccinated AkFemDem 13 hrs ago #130
Some are saying those who were vaccinated are now getting sick and dying. Is that true? Anyone else heard this? Jit423 20 hrs ago #61
The vaxes saved one of my friends. Irish_Dem 14 hrs ago #115
Not a "now" thing AkFemDem 13 hrs ago #131
Not much info because it is a reich-wing myth promulgated by self-styled "purebloods" Bernardo de La Paz 12 hrs ago #132
It's the same stupid mindset as religious zealots mdbl 10 hrs ago #154
There are a small number who have a bad reaction to any shot. More than 8 billion doses have been given worldwide. mahina 12 hrs ago #133
Thanks for this thorough and scientific response nt MadameButterfly 5 hrs ago #180
Vaccinated people have always gotten sick and died. Mariana 9 hrs ago #160
Yes, the vaccine lowers your chances of severe disease and death significanrtly but is not bulletproof protection LymphocyteLover 6 hrs ago #176
This message was self-deleted by its author samplegirl 22 hrs ago #15
I'm so sorry. I cannot imagine. AllyCat 22 hrs ago #23
Unfortunately, covid vaccines lose much of their effectiveness against infection after 6 months. SunSeeker 21 hrs ago #46
My wife and I caught COVID b4 Christmas. I was due to be vaccinated, she had been vaccinated at Costco in Oct. C Moon 21 hrs ago #49
I'm so sorry. Scrivener7 22 hrs ago #2
omg that's horrible... so very sorry... FirstLight 22 hrs ago #3
66 samplegirl 22 hrs ago #16
Oh, gosh. Much to young to die that way Iris 21 hrs ago #48
A friend of mine was just diagnosed with cancer. Ms. Toad 22 hrs ago #28
I'm sorry about your dad stollen 20 hrs ago #59
I'm sorry for your loss... rasputin1952 19 hrs ago #66
Yeah, My sister picked the place, and it was because of her own greed, IMO FirstLight 18 hrs ago #86
So sorry to hear that. Awful. Some places are worse than just dying at home. If only "house calls" were still a thing. Evolve Dammit 2 hrs ago #195
What sad news! I am so sorry for your friend and her family. Diamond_Dog 22 hrs ago #4
I called her as I did to check on her samplegirl 22 hrs ago #17
I'm so damn sorry... Hekate 22 hrs ago #5
The damage Trump did and will do is incalculable. Irish_Dem 22 hrs ago #7
It's nonstop samplegirl 22 hrs ago #19
Everything Trump touches turns to shit stollen 20 hrs ago #60
Can you do some artwork for your friend? Irish_Dem 14 hrs ago #114
What a beautiful thing to suggest. Her artwork is indeed imbued with love, niyad 11 hrs ago #134
Yes I can feel all you describe when I look at her work. Irish_Dem 10 hrs ago #147
I am so sorry, samplegirl. Please convey my sympathies to your friend. I agree with you on LoisB 22 hrs ago #11
Ty samplegirl 22 hrs ago #20
Understandably. n/t rasputin1952 21 hrs ago #50
I understand. LoisB 20 hrs ago #62
So sorry sample girl, gab13by13 22 hrs ago #12
I just got a Covid booster and a flu shot yesterday. CentralMass 22 hrs ago #18
I am so sorry to hear this. yellow dahlia 22 hrs ago #14
Even more horrible when you had to listen to your neighbor, tell you, he lost his friend samplegirl 22 hrs ago #21
It's not trump's incompetence; it's his malevolence. LuvLoogie 22 hrs ago #27
He is extraordinarily competent Cirsium 7 hrs ago #175
I'm very sorry. My brother died of covid at the end of November. rsdsharp 22 hrs ago #22
I'm so sorry for your loss. Tragic illness that AllyCat 22 hrs ago #25
Medical facilities have almost completely stopped using transmission reduction protocols. Ms. Toad 21 hrs ago #32
Your girlfriend's husband? SocialDemocrat61 22 hrs ago #29
Girlfriend, like: "friend who is a girl" ColinC 21 hrs ago #31
The term usually refers to SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #79
It has been used both ways, especially by those of a specific generation ColinC 13 hrs ago #122
Ok SocialDemocrat61 13 hrs ago #123
We all knew what SG meant. And the fact the girlfriend has a husband gives it more context. Irish_Dem 10 hrs ago #150
Some women refer to their female friends as girlfriends JI7 21 hrs ago #33
Ok SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #84
Merriam webster: girlfriend: 1: A woman who is a friend. niyad 18 hrs ago #90
Never heard of it. SocialDemocrat61 17 hrs ago #99
What part of "samplegirl" don't you understand? soldierant 21 hrs ago #37
So? SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #74
Please delete your appallingly insensitive post, and apologize. niyad 18 hrs ago #78
You're free to report it SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #80
Really? Most of the rest of us understood it perfectly. niyad 18 hrs ago #87
Most is not all SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #88
Continuing to defend the indefensible is not helping you. niyad 18 hrs ago #89
With whom? SocialDemocrat61 17 hrs ago #98
English is your first language? The post seemed clear to everyone else. Judi Lynn 17 hrs ago #107
Thanks for the advice SocialDemocrat61 13 hrs ago #128
I admit that I thought the same thing at first. Cowpunk 10 hrs ago #158
That is just bizarre to me. niyad 9 hrs ago #159
Same here, first thought was that his gf's ex died. Pompoy 8 hrs ago #166
Which I reported JonAndKatePlusABird 16 hrs ago #109
Well good for you SocialDemocrat61 13 hrs ago #127
Because women have been traditionally judged and associated with their husbands and boyfrineds obamanut2012 3 hrs ago #187
I would call it a cultural thing opposed to a language thing. defacto7 2 hrs ago #191
Ignore them. If the post said "My friend's husband...", itwould have been much clearer. Wonder Why 11 hrs ago #135
Yes it would have SocialDemocrat61 10 hrs ago #139
Yes the comment was in very bad taste and poor judgment. Irish_Dem 10 hrs ago #152
What in the heck obamanut2012 21 hrs ago #42
Maybe SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #77
Merriam webster: girlfriend: 1 (as in FIRST definition) A WOMAN WHO IS A FRIEND. niyad 18 hrs ago #91
Never heard someone use SocialDemocrat61 17 hrs ago #101
Keep trying. We need the laughs. niyad 17 hrs ago #103
Ok. I once shot an elephant in my pajamas SocialDemocrat61 17 hrs ago #104
Groucho Marx. niyad 17 hrs ago #106
Lol. Pompoy 8 hrs ago #168
Guess what, I have JonAndKatePlusABird 16 hrs ago #110
Yes SocialDemocrat61 13 hrs ago #126
Perhaps you are young? TBF 8 hrs ago #165
Thank you SocialDemocrat61 8 hrs ago #167
That was not funny, it was mean FullySupportDems 21 hrs ago #43
It is not funny. There are a couple of comments that are insensitive and childish while our friend, Deuxcents 21 hrs ago #54
It sure would be cool if some apologies happened FullySupportDems 20 hrs ago #56
Considering the defensiveness and justifying of said posts, please niyad 18 hrs ago #97
Sadly, you are right FullySupportDems 3 hrs ago #190
Not meant to be funny SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #81
Keep defending the indefensible. You are not helping yourself. niyad 18 hrs ago #93
I don't really care SocialDemocrat61 17 hrs ago #102
If that were true, you would not keep defending your posts. niyad 17 hrs ago #105
You care so little that you posted to tell us how little you care JonAndKatePlusABird 16 hrs ago #111
No SocialDemocrat61 13 hrs ago #125
I'm kind of curious as to why you don't care FullySupportDems 10 hrs ago #140
No I was confused about the usage SocialDemocrat61 10 hrs ago #142
You didn't answer my question FullySupportDems 8 hrs ago #169
I asked a question SocialDemocrat61 6 hrs ago #177
No, it's not projection FullySupportDems 4 hrs ago #181
Yes it is SocialDemocrat61 4 hrs ago #184
You asked if her friend was cheating on her dying husband FullySupportDems 3 hrs ago #185
Your opinion and issue SocialDemocrat61 3 hrs ago #186
Yes I'm aware u don't care FullySupportDems 3 hrs ago #188
Bye. Have a nice day SocialDemocrat61 3 hrs ago #189
I am embarrassed for you tbh obamanut2012 10 hrs ago #145
Good for you SocialDemocrat61 10 hrs ago #149
Really? n/t rasputin1952 21 hrs ago #47
Your post is simply beyond the pale. Please delete, and apologize. niyad 18 hrs ago #75
Sorry SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #82
No, it is not. niyad 18 hrs ago #83
It is to me SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #85
I'm laughing... PCIntern 13 hrs ago #121
I know SocialDemocrat61 13 hrs ago #124
Back in the day, women called their female friends "girlfriends." Irish_Dem 10 hrs ago #148
Thank you SocialDemocrat61 10 hrs ago #151
Good grief MustLoveBeagles 7 hrs ago #173
As has been explained SocialDemocrat61 6 hrs ago #178
What an Odd Initial Response to Someone Grieving. alcuno 33 min ago #198
Gawd how awful. yorkster 21 hrs ago #34
Girlfriend's husband? Would I be presumptive to ask a question. NotHardly 21 hrs ago #35
What the hell is wrong with you? orangecrush 21 hrs ago #51
A smiley face? A smiley face, in your incredibly boorish, rude post? niyad 18 hrs ago #94
Girlfriend meaning friend MustLoveBeagles 7 hrs ago #172
So sorry, samplegirl , May his memories of him be a blessing to his wife and you. debm55 21 hrs ago #36
My sympathy bdamomma 21 hrs ago #38
Deepest condolences to you & your friend. SheltieLover 21 hrs ago #39
My brother checked out during the orange bastard's first tour LilElf70 21 hrs ago #40
So sad. Steve was a good guy JohnnyRingo 21 hrs ago #41
Keith samplegirl 19 hrs ago #67
Oh yeah. I knew that. JohnnyRingo 19 hrs ago #69
So sad... rasputin1952 21 hrs ago #44
I'm glad she has a nice friend like you samplegirl FullySupportDems 21 hrs ago #45
I lost my wife three years ago, when Covid was just starting... William Gustafson 20 hrs ago #55
I am so sorry. Cassidy 10 hrs ago #144
I'm so sorry Samplegirl JMCKUSICK 20 hrs ago #58
Post removed Post removed 20 hrs ago #63
Aren't we pleasant. sheshe2 20 hrs ago #64
JFC, you mean there was something worse than some of the appalling posts niyad 18 hrs ago #92
Yup. It was bad. sheshe2 18 hrs ago #95
Yikes. Unfortunately, there are still a number of truly disgusting posts niyad 18 hrs ago #96
Post removed Post removed 17 hrs ago #100
Condolences for her, and her family. A {hug} for you. electric_blue68 19 hrs ago #71
I am sorry for your friend's loss LetMyPeopleVote 18 hrs ago #73
My dear SG, holding you and your friend in love and light in this horrific time. niyad 18 hrs ago #76
I am so sorry for your friend's loss. sheshe2 17 hrs ago #108
I'm so sorry for your loss.(((hugs))) sueh 13 hrs ago #129
I'm so sorry samplegirl radical noodle 11 hrs ago #136
I'm so very sorry for your loss Quiet Em 11 hrs ago #137
Your girlfriend's husband Clouds Passing 10 hrs ago #141
Such a sad and needless loss. pandr32 10 hrs ago #143
Covid was the 4th leading cause of death in the U.S. in 2024. Cassidy 10 hrs ago #146
My sympathies. CrispyQ 10 hrs ago #153
No it's not Evolve Dammit 2 hrs ago #192
So sorry Deep State Witch 9 hrs ago #162
I've had Covid 5 times Jarqui 9 hrs ago #163
The ones we got from the gov't were expired. I guess they have extended the dating and kits are still good? Evolve Dammit 2 hrs ago #193
I've heard they're probably still pretty good after the expiry date Jarqui 1 hr ago #196
Yes. I'm not sure what's going on. Evolve Dammit 1 hr ago #197
After reading all the the responses to this thread, I am even more afraid of what is to come. Katinfl 7 hrs ago #171
The Covid Pandemic probably won't return. maxsolomon 7 hrs ago #174
I'm so sorry samplegirl Nittersing 6 hrs ago #179
So sorry! It's beyond the pale the red idiots voted once again for this menace. Forgetting all about covid PortTack 4 hrs ago #182

Irish_Dem

(61,090 posts)
6. One of my neighbors was extremely sick from Covid pneumonia.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 10:19 PM
22 hrs ago

Last November. Was heading for a bad ending.
But she rallied and pulled through.

She was vaccinated.

DURHAM D

(32,861 posts)
8. I recently tested positive for covid.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 10:27 PM
22 hrs ago

I had no symptoms at all / ever. The only reason I took a covid test was because i had some about to expire and I had a dental appointment coming up. After I tested positive I went to a walk-in clinic and was tested again and given Paxlovid.
Never had any symptoms.
I believe I had 8 shots all together for covid.

Irish_Dem

(61,090 posts)
9. I had nine vaxes so far, got covid in Nov.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 10:33 PM
22 hrs ago

Was quite sick, took the Paxlovid, got Covid Rebound and was sicker than with the original covid.
Took two months to get back to 100% feeling better.

But just found out today I have some long Covid problems.
I have always had normal cholesterol and inexplicably shot to a very high number in
recent blood work.

I exercise every day, eat mainly protein and fruits/veggies.
Do not smoke or drink.
And I am low to normal weight.

I did some online research and found out that this is a symptom of long covid.
So now I am on a meds to bring the cholesterol down.
Other than that I feel fine now.

Ms. Toad

(35,743 posts)
24. Same here.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:00 PM
22 hrs ago

9 vaccinations.

I've had COVID twice - long COVID after the first one. Most of the identified problems have resolved. The one continuing problems - blood glucose is higher and less predictable. I used to be able to control it very precisely with diet - now it is all over the place.

Pretty sure I've been exposed at least twice this week. On Monday I was told one of my professors had COVID so I shouldn't expect to see him this week . . . but I've seen him twice. I'm still masking virtually all the time, so I'm relatively safe. But I hope we aren't starting a little wave through the school.

And - I am expecting to be told I shouldn't continue to vaccinate (I get a month of severe headaches after each vaccination - the last one sent me to the ER).

IbogaProject

(3,912 posts)
52. Look into Novavax for your next shot
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:55 PM
21 hrs ago

Way milder as in no soreness and no after effects and I feel the coverage has been sustained for a longer period.

Ms. Toad

(35,743 posts)
57. I'm not fond of the risk profile.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 12:20 AM
20 hrs ago

It contains added adjuvants - and I already have a wack-a-doodle immune system. Both autoimmune disorders and immune deficiencies. Currently, I react very strongly to vaccines (not just COVID). I've run a 103 temp for several hours after the last several I've gotten. I've fount mixed reviews about the comparative heart risk between the two types of vaccine - but that is an issue because I've had a lifelong heart murmur and am at risk for cardiovascular disease. (I know the risk is higher from COVID than from the vaccine - which is part of why I've had 9 vaccinations already. But the issue here is whether I can continue to live with spending two months a year largely in bed with my blankets over my head - in between running to worship the porcelain throne.)

IbogaProject

(3,912 posts)
138. Just relaying my expierience
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 10:08 AM
10 hrs ago

I got really sore from the Pfizer. I still take them as even if I wasnt too at risk I want to reduce any spreading I could do.

Ms. Toad

(35,743 posts)
161. After the first one or two, I had no soreness.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 11:31 AM
9 hrs ago

Just the intense fever and month of severe headaches.

John1956PA

(3,496 posts)
26. My work manager has that very same spike since her COVID bout.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:03 PM
22 hrs ago

She exercises, keeps her weight down, and is otherwise healthy. Her labs were always right on the money before COVID. After she recovered from COVID, she found that her cholesterol readings were elevated. They still have not yet returned to normal.

Irish_Dem

(61,090 posts)
120. When did she have covid? Is she taking a statin?
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 06:50 AM
14 hrs ago

Some research is saying the spike might only last a year.

bdamomma

(66,961 posts)
30. Glad to hear
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:09 PM
21 hrs ago

you're feeling better. Keep up doing what you're doing to stay well. Yes, Covid is still out there lurking. But those vaccines help. The Shingles vaccine is another preventative one to get.

mahina

(19,211 posts)
53. Good luck! In case something my doc taught me last month might help, here are two studies on almonds and cholesterol.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:57 PM
21 hrs ago
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21457263/
Effects of almond consumption on the reduction of LDL-cholesterol: a discussion of potential mechanisms and future research directions


https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26269239/
Dietary Almonds Increase Serum HDL Cholesterol in Coronary Artery Disease Patients in a Randomized Controlled Trial

ananda

(31,054 posts)
112. And organic food
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 04:57 AM
16 hrs ago

After that article on the effect of glyphosates, I went
all organic.

I have never had Covid even after I know I was exposed.

Irish_Dem

(61,090 posts)
116. It is up to the meds, I already have a strict diet and exercise every day.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 06:33 AM
14 hrs ago

I weigh 117 and only fluctuate up one pound to 118.
Eat salads, fruit and lean meat.

I did splurge on croissants 6 months on vacation but my blood work was fine after the trip.
It only spiked after covid.

lonely bird

(2,008 posts)
164. Just a note...
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 11:52 AM
9 hrs ago

If someone has clotting issues like I do (factor 5 Leiden and PGM 2) Paxlovid is not a good choice. According to my PCP Paxlovid can cause bleeding issues.

Irish_Dem

(61,090 posts)
170. Interesting, I did not know that.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 01:07 PM
7 hrs ago

I don't have clotting issues.
But Paxlovid might be connected to long covid symptoms.
I don't think they know yet.

lonely bird

(2,008 posts)
183. Yeah
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 04:44 PM
4 hrs ago

I got CoVid at Christmas and asked my PCP about Paxlovid and that was when he told me that it wasn’t good for me.

Sundance1220

(237 posts)
113. Same here
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 06:12 AM
14 hrs ago

Vaccines up to date and have never had covid. My whole family is vaccinated but I'm the only one who has never had it. None had serious cases and even my 84 year old mother sailed through with minor symptoms. We're very fortunate.

 

in the stacks

(14 posts)
155. Were we told
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 10:53 AM
10 hrs ago

it would be like a flu shot? I don't recall having that impression. As a matter of course, I remember after the first shot, the second shot (think it was referred to as a "booster" ) was recommended very soon afterwards. Some people balked at that because it didn't make sense to them. But then it just settled into more and more shot because the flu virus morphs.

LetMyPeopleVote

(156,461 posts)
156. It was my understanding that they hope that some day it will be like the flu shot
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 10:55 AM
10 hrs ago

Right now, they are dealing with a still mutating virus and so more shots are needed

 

in the stacks

(14 posts)
157. The flu shot is like this.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 10:59 AM
10 hrs ago

You get vaccinated for one strain of virus 🦠 but since it morphs it has a poor efficacy rate. In other words, getting the flu shot doesn't prevent a person from getting the flu during flu season. And what bugs me since the Covid jabs were rolled out is that the past few summers we've had flu epidemics long before fall! 🥴

Evolve Dammit

(19,438 posts)
194. Right. They came out with a newer, reformulated booster a few months ago due to the new strains. Keep up I guess?
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 06:41 PM
2 hrs ago

AkFemDem

(2,218 posts)
130. I was miserably sick and am vaccinated
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 07:52 AM
13 hrs ago

I also took Paxlovid. Vaccinated people can get very sick, and yes some die from Covid.

Jit423

(527 posts)
61. Some are saying those who were vaccinated are now getting sick and dying. Is that true? Anyone else heard this?
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 12:44 AM
20 hrs ago

Trying to find out but not much info on that.

Irish_Dem

(61,090 posts)
115. The vaxes saved one of my friends.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 06:30 AM
14 hrs ago

She is 82, not in great health, and was very ill with covid pneumonia but rallied and pulled through.
We all think it was the vaccine that saved her.

If she had not been vaxxed we think she would have died.

The research is showing that the vaccines saves lives.

AkFemDem

(2,218 posts)
131. Not a "now" thing
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 07:54 AM
13 hrs ago

The vaccine was never a guarantee against getting sick or even dying. It just improves chances (should you be in that higher risk of death group for whatever reason) for survival.

Bernardo de La Paz

(51,828 posts)
132. Not much info because it is a reich-wing myth promulgated by self-styled "purebloods"
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 08:18 AM
12 hrs ago

When the mRNA vaccines came out, the nitwits claimed people would be dying in droves in six months.

When six month passed, the nuts continued in two ways: a claim that massive deaths were being covered up, but showed up in statistics, and separately that the mass die-off would be in full swing after 3 years. When you look at their statistics, it is not hard to see how they misinterpret them.

It's more than three years now.

Don't waste your time with unscientific nonsense.

mdbl

(5,562 posts)
154. It's the same stupid mindset as religious zealots
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 10:51 AM
10 hrs ago

They make all these dumb predictions that never come true then make stupid rationalizations as an excuse for their stupidity.

mahina

(19,211 posts)
133. There are a small number who have a bad reaction to any shot. More than 8 billion doses have been given worldwide.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 08:46 AM
12 hrs ago

55 have died from side effects of the shot. 8 billion, 8,000,000,000. Eight thousand millions. For perspective, 1.8411 billion is the entire population of China. The entire world population is 8.025 billion. If it killed people, a *lot* of people would have died of it.

I've had friends who are firmly convinced that the shot causes death because they are being told so by people on Fox or on social media who do not have this country's interests at heart- the opposite. I will never understand why anyone would sell our people that idea. It makes me so sad that so many have lost their lives or have long term health problems because they didn't take the shot. Thank you for asking this question. It's 3 am here and I need to get some sleep before work but here is one study that may be useful.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8875435/
Death after the Administration of COVID-19 Vaccines Approved by EMA: Has a Causal Relationship Been Demonstrated?Abstract
More than eight billion doses of COVID-19 vaccines have been administered globally so far and 44.29% of people are fully vaccinated. Pre-authorization clinical trials were carried out and the safety of vaccines is still continuously monitored through post-commercialization surveillance. However, some people are afraid of vaccine side effects, claiming they could lead to death, and hesitate to get vaccinated. Herein, a literature review of COVID-19-vaccine-related deaths has been carried out according to the PRISMA standards to understand if there is a causal relationship between vaccination and death and to highlight the real extent of such events. There have been 55 cases of death after COVID-19 vaccination reported and a causal relationship has been excluded in 17 cases. In the remaining cases, the causal link between the vaccine and the death was not specified (8) or considered possible (15), probable (1), or very probable/demonstrated (14). The causes of deaths among these cases were: vaccine-induced immune thrombotic thrombocytopenia (VITT) (32), myocarditis (3), ADEM (1), myocardial infarction (1), and rhabdomyolysis (1). In such cases, the demonstration of a causal relationship is not obvious, and more studies, especially with post-mortem investigations, are needed to deepen understanding of the possible pathophysiological mechanisms of fatal vaccine side effects. In any event, given the scarcity of fatal cases, the benefits of vaccination outweigh the risks and the scientific community needs to be cohesive in asserting that vaccination is fundamental to containing the spread of SARS-CoV-2.

https://omh.ny.gov/omhweb/covid-19-resources/vax-infographic-letter.pdf

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10880230/
I am sure there are better videos but I don't have time to search for them right now, though I hope you do.

?si=EJcbKoCxytJIXIx8

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-vaccines-infographic

“I have nothing against RFK Jr. from a human perspective, he should probably be an environmental leader, that's the kind of thing he's trained for — but under no circumstance should he be a health secretary. So his health secretary position, or the potential position, will doom us to outbreaks for our kids.”

~ Gov. Josh Green on President-elect Donald Trump’s pick to lead the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services
Read and listen to this story

hope this helps. good night!


Mariana

(15,227 posts)
160. Vaccinated people have always gotten sick and died.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 11:26 AM
9 hrs ago

It's much less likely if they're vaccinated, but it does happen.

LymphocyteLover

(7,073 posts)
176. Yes, the vaccine lowers your chances of severe disease and death significanrtly but is not bulletproof protection
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 02:08 PM
6 hrs ago

Response to DURHAM D (Reply #1)

AllyCat

(17,337 posts)
23. I'm so sorry. I cannot imagine.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:00 PM
22 hrs ago

All our medicine still doesn’t save some of our friends. My heart goes out to you all.

SunSeeker

(54,215 posts)
46. Unfortunately, covid vaccines lose much of their effectiveness against infection after 6 months.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:42 PM
21 hrs ago

C Moon

(12,631 posts)
49. My wife and I caught COVID b4 Christmas. I was due to be vaccinated, she had been vaccinated at Costco in Oct.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:52 PM
21 hrs ago

Neither got a fever, but I was completely drained on day 1. She had a horrid sore throat. We both had coughs that persisted for 4 weeks.

I'm going to get another vax, regardless.

FirstLight

(14,369 posts)
3. omg that's horrible... so very sorry...
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 10:11 PM
22 hrs ago

If I may ask, how old was he?

My Dad died from Covid complications in 2023. He had recovered from the disease but within a week, his gallbladder literally died (coagualtion issues most likelly) and though they were pumping him full of antibiotics to bring down the swelling for an othroscopy, he went septic within 24 hours. He went within 4-5 days...

I still bllame the fucking Care Facility for not following protocol when they KNEW they had Covid in there. He collapsed outside on the patio and they "lost" him for 30 mns before calling for EMT's when he had the disease... if they had been more careful, maybe he wouldn't have suffered. But then again, memory care IS truly suffering...long and drawn out disaster

Ms. Toad

(35,743 posts)
28. A friend of mine was just diagnosed with cancer.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:06 PM
22 hrs ago

He was hospitalized, getting him stable, and was exposed to COVID while in the hospital. He went in yesterday to get a port for chemo - and tested positive for COVID diagnosed with pneumonia and readmitted. The port will have to wait for another day.

I speculated to him that most of his care team probably wasn't masking up, even though he has COVID that he caught while hospitalized the first time. He said it's about 50-50.

So irresponsible.

rasputin1952

(83,374 posts)
66. I'm sorry for your loss...
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 01:37 AM
19 hrs ago

The staff is overworked and thin in most of these facilities.

While those in direct contact with individuals who need care are dedicated to those under their care, it is the "upper caste" who do everything they can to cut costs. Those who need care suffer, usually in silence.

Most states could care less and do little to ensure proper care. I worked for a few after I got out of the Army (I was a Medical Plt Sgt) and had no problem calling the "powers that be" at the state level. There are some companies that own virtually all of the Care Facilities in a state. It came down to "if you save a dollar, do it."



FirstLight

(14,369 posts)
86. Yeah, My sister picked the place, and it was because of her own greed, IMO
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 02:23 AM
18 hrs ago

She didn't want dad's prolonged care to eat up our inheritance... The place had billing and management issues from the get-go. And the staff was lazy at best, not even really overworked, just didn't care enough to make the effort.

I hated visiting him there and the food they served was a fucking joke. We tried to get them to give h8im better options, even went out of our way to buy/provide things he liked because they "said" they would give it to him. The staff put it in their refrigerator instead and they disappeard ...

I'm glad he's crossed over, he didn't deserve that at all. His last year after Mom passed was hell for him, and even with dementia, he was aware enough to know he wasn't home or in a "normal" place...

Evolve Dammit

(19,438 posts)
195. So sorry to hear that. Awful. Some places are worse than just dying at home. If only "house calls" were still a thing.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 06:49 PM
2 hrs ago

samplegirl

(12,315 posts)
17. I called her as I did to check on her
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 10:49 PM
22 hrs ago

And he went back to the hospital the day before.
He was at nursinghome for rehab.
I've had enough.

Irish_Dem

(61,090 posts)
114. Can you do some artwork for your friend?
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 06:26 AM
14 hrs ago

Your artwork is imbued with love, it shows in every brush stroke.

niyad

(121,181 posts)
134. What a beautiful thing to suggest. Her artwork is indeed imbued with love,
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 09:35 AM
11 hrs ago

and light, and joy.

Irish_Dem

(61,090 posts)
147. Yes I can feel all you describe when I look at her work.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 10:26 AM
10 hrs ago

I thought perhaps I was the only one who noticed it.
Love, light, joy.
The emotional component of samplegirl's art is palpable.

Samplegirl reported I think sending some of her art work to another friend experiencing a loss.
I hope she does as well with this current friend.
I know it would be healing for the friend.

LoisB

(9,080 posts)
11. I am so sorry, samplegirl. Please convey my sympathies to your friend. I agree with you on
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 10:39 PM
22 hrs ago

where the blame lies. So many needless deaths.

gab13by13

(25,684 posts)
12. So sorry sample girl,
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 10:40 PM
22 hrs ago

I had Covid shots about 8 months ago, I didn't realize there are any more to get. I got the Pfizer shot.

I had something 2 months ago, I think it was that stomach virus. I had chills for 2 months but finally got over it.

The new administration will make it hard to get vaccinated I'm afraid.

yellow dahlia

(458 posts)
14. I am so sorry to hear this.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 10:44 PM
22 hrs ago

You and your friend have my condolences.

Covid is such a "crap shoot". Some skate by with sniffles, while others can't rally against it. I have a good friend with Long Covid which has changed his otherwise healthy life.

I concur with you assessment that this is the fault of The Felonious Grifter.

I feel like we live with a collective angst as a result of his incompetence. I have more I could say, but will save it for now.

Again - please relay my condolences to your friend.

samplegirl

(12,315 posts)
21. Even more horrible when you had to listen to your neighbor, tell you, he lost his friend
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 10:52 PM
22 hrs ago

Because of a virus from China!

LuvLoogie

(7,629 posts)
27. It's not trump's incompetence; it's his malevolence.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:04 PM
22 hrs ago

This country is succumbing to greed that is aided and abetted by racist-addled stupidity. Civil society allowed trump to gain the highest office twice. The powers that be smell blood. Their victory is at hand.

rsdsharp

(10,369 posts)
22. I'm very sorry. My brother died of covid at the end of November.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 10:54 PM
22 hrs ago

He caught it in a skilled nursing facility.

Ms. Toad

(35,743 posts)
32. Medical facilities have almost completely stopped using transmission reduction protocols.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:09 PM
21 hrs ago

A friend recently diagnosed with cancer caught COVID while hospitalized. Is hospitalized again because it is now COVID pneumonia (delaying his cancer care). And still - the very facility that gave him COVID, and knows he is positive now, is largely not masking around him.

SocialDemocrat61

(3,171 posts)
29. Your girlfriend's husband?
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:06 PM
22 hrs ago

So she was cheating on her husband with you while he was sick with covid?

SocialDemocrat61

(3,171 posts)
79. The term usually refers to
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 02:17 AM
18 hrs ago

“ frequent or regular female companion in a romantic or sexual relationship”.

ColinC

(11,080 posts)
122. It has been used both ways, especially by those of a specific generation
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 07:21 AM
13 hrs ago

Women have often called their friends "girlfriends." One of the clues as to how normal this usage is would be the responses in the thread.

Irish_Dem

(61,090 posts)
150. We all knew what SG meant. And the fact the girlfriend has a husband gives it more context.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 10:29 AM
10 hrs ago

niyad

(121,181 posts)
90. Merriam webster: girlfriend: 1: A woman who is a friend.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 02:35 AM
18 hrs ago

"Girlfriends" multiple season tv sitcom

SocialDemocrat61

(3,171 posts)
98. With whom?
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 03:08 AM
17 hrs ago

I asked a question because I found the op confusing. Sorry if questions offend you.

Judi Lynn

(162,703 posts)
107. English is your first language? The post seemed clear to everyone else.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 03:30 AM
17 hrs ago

If you seek clarification, try to be respectful and serious asking for help understanding.

Cowpunk

(808 posts)
158. I admit that I thought the same thing at first.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 11:01 AM
10 hrs ago

I know that a female friend is often called a girlfriend, but my male brain took a while to get there.

Pompoy

(160 posts)
166. Same here, first thought was that his gf's ex died.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 12:09 PM
8 hrs ago

As you say, male brain? But was quick to realize my mistake.

109. Which I reported
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 04:25 AM
16 hrs ago

Sorry if English isn’t your first language, but, colloquially, my entire life (36yo) I’ve heard my female friends refer to their female friends as “girlfriends”.

Here’s the kicker: I (and every other guy) don’t call my guy friends “boyfriends”.

English is weird like that.

obamanut2012

(27,978 posts)
187. Because women have been traditionally judged and associated with their husbands and boyfrineds
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 05:44 PM
3 hrs ago

And men not their wives and girlfriends.

It is rooted in misogyny, like most things, but many women now embrace it as he opposite.

defacto7

(13,695 posts)
191. I would call it a cultural thing opposed to a language thing.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 06:08 PM
2 hrs ago

Why shouldn't a guy call his male friends their boyfriend or a manfriend? Logically, there's no linguistic reason ... except our culture says, "don't do it."

Wonder Why

(4,821 posts)
135. Ignore them. If the post said "My friend's husband...", itwould have been much clearer.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 09:58 AM
11 hrs ago

I misunderstood too but by the time I read it, there were a lot more posts so I didn't question it. Some people will attack if you don't get something right away. Not uncommon on this site.

SocialDemocrat61

(3,171 posts)
139. Yes it would have
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 10:09 AM
10 hrs ago

But in this day and age there are many different kinds of relationships out there.

Irish_Dem

(61,090 posts)
152. Yes the comment was in very bad taste and poor judgment.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 10:30 AM
10 hrs ago

To accuse sample girl of having an affair with a woman who just lost her husband.
And sample girl is grieving the loss as well.

SMH

obamanut2012

(27,978 posts)
42. What in the heck
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:31 PM
21 hrs ago

Is this really the time? And it is obviously she means her friend, but let's say it's more: thruples exist.

SocialDemocrat61

(3,171 posts)
77. Maybe
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 02:16 AM
18 hrs ago

But saying girlfriend which is typical defined as “frequent or regular female companion in a romantic or sexual relationship” vs friend is confusing.

TBF

(34,870 posts)
165. Perhaps you are young?
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 12:08 PM
8 hrs ago

I am in my 50's and growing up all of our female friends were referred to as our girlfriends. Now I think it may refer more to "girlfriend" as a romantic/sexual partner, no matter gender. But at the time, many decades ago, it was more generic.

Deuxcents

(20,427 posts)
54. It is not funny. There are a couple of comments that are insensitive and childish while our friend,
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 12:04 AM
21 hrs ago

Samplegirl is in distress. 🌺

FullySupportDems

(238 posts)
56. It sure would be cool if some apologies happened
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 12:17 AM
20 hrs ago

I really hope so. I'm holding back expletives.

niyad

(121,181 posts)
97. Considering the defensiveness and justifying of said posts, please
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 03:03 AM
18 hrs ago

don't hold your breath waiting for apologies. I had to double-check, make sure I was still reading DU, and had not been accidentally switched to another site.

111. You care so little that you posted to tell us how little you care
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 04:48 AM
16 hrs ago

Since it’s NBD, hopefully you’ll see EVERY SINGLE REPLY to your posts and realize the term “girlfriend” is hilariously innocuous.

The best part is if you continue defending your stance of “girlfriend = romantic partner”, after all of us straight up telling you that that is not necessarily the case, every word you type is wasted. You have a biiiiiiiiiig uphill mountain to climb to convince me you’re not being disingenuous.

FullySupportDems

(238 posts)
140. I'm kind of curious as to why you don't care
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 10:10 AM
10 hrs ago

If others think what you asked seemed out of place and rude, you don't care? I don't get that. This thread was about a very sad loss and you appeared to be joking at the use of the word girlfriend.

FullySupportDems

(238 posts)
169. You didn't answer my question
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 12:49 PM
8 hrs ago

I know you asked a question. I asked why you don't care. When your question included asking if her friend had been cheating on her dying husband, it went beyond merely being a question about their relationship. Don't you think that was a hurtful implication?

Kicking people when they're down? Have you ever heard of that?

FullySupportDems

(238 posts)
181. No, it's not projection
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 04:13 PM
4 hrs ago

By me or anyone else here confronting you about it. You asked a shitty question that had nothing to do with the grief being expressed about somebody dying. I'm sure you know what grief means.

You ought to feel badly about it. It's your issue you think it's no big deal.

FullySupportDems

(238 posts)
185. You asked if her friend was cheating on her dying husband
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 05:33 PM
3 hrs ago

You shouldn't have asked a question like that and you aren't adult enough to even admit it. People tell you you are being mean and you don't care? Yeah, I got nothing. It's all name calling from here.

FullySupportDems

(238 posts)
188. Yes I'm aware u don't care
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 05:46 PM
3 hrs ago

It's such an evolved philosophy really. Just don't give a shit. Here I am giving it a go. Bye.

SocialDemocrat61

(3,171 posts)
85. It is to me
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 02:22 AM
18 hrs ago

The term girlfriend usually means “ frequent or regular female companion in a romantic or sexual relationship”.

PCIntern

(27,100 posts)
121. I'm laughing...
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 07:08 AM
13 hrs ago

Last edited Fri Jan 17, 2025, 08:38 AM - Edit history (1)

I had the exact same thought when I saw the title…

But I apologize: my condolences. Awful stuff

Irish_Dem

(61,090 posts)
148. Back in the day, women called their female friends "girlfriends."
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 10:28 AM
10 hrs ago

Perhaps you are young and didn't realize that fact.

alcuno

(8,081 posts)
198. What an Odd Initial Response to Someone Grieving.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 08:34 PM
33 min ago

Doesn't matter who they are. Accusing someone of "cheating" through the use of a question? And to keep it going after multiple people called you on it. Odd.

yorkster

(2,589 posts)
34. Gawd how awful.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:16 PM
21 hrs ago

And goddamn Trump. I have had a couple of mild run-ins with maskholes. I know I may let loose if it happens again. Very distressing to hear this. So sorry about your friend's husband and so worried for all of us.

NotHardly

(1,459 posts)
35. Girlfriend's husband? Would I be presumptive to ask a question.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:16 PM
21 hrs ago

No harm, no foul in either instance.

niyad

(121,181 posts)
94. A smiley face? A smiley face, in your incredibly boorish, rude post?
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 02:48 AM
18 hrs ago

This is not freeperville, or x or meta.

LilElf70

(615 posts)
40. My brother checked out during the orange bastard's first tour
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:19 PM
21 hrs ago

I blame him 100%. I'll never forget how he downplayed the entire situation. Let's do some bleach. No need to wear a mask. And so on, and so forth.

JohnnyRingo

(19,502 posts)
69. Oh yeah. I knew that.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 01:54 AM
19 hrs ago

I don't know where Steve came from. Glad I didn't write that on the card.

rasputin1952

(83,374 posts)
44. So sad...
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:41 PM
21 hrs ago

Grief is one emotion that is hard to overcome.

My heart goes out to all who have lost a loved one regardless of the initiating circumstances.



William Gustafson

(376 posts)
55. I lost my wife three years ago, when Covid was just starting...
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 12:08 AM
20 hrs ago

... She had been battling a brain tumor for more than 15 years. We did two surgeries', Kemo, and Radiation, and every time we thought they finally got it all, it would come back. Her last hope was to try Gene Therapy.... All was going well, until she got a blood clot in the brain, and had a stroke.... (side effect of the medicine from the Gene Therapy)
She went into emergency, and they were not able to remove all of the clot, due to them piercing her blood vessel with the tool they remove clots with... thankfully, she didn't bleed long, but they couldn't get all of it out....
About that time, Covid was ramping up... They closed the hospital to all visitors...
The last time I seen her in the hospital, she was being transferred to a Therapy wing. After 2 1/2 months of not seeing her, because of the Covid restrictions, they realized she would not recover from her stroke, so they sent her home...
I was her soul caregiver all the way to the end. She was bedridden, up to the day she passed.... On February 14, she passed away.
Because of Covid, I was not able to help her in her therapy, visit her, or even just hold her while she was in the hospitals.
I have learned to accept things out of my control, but I know that she is no longer suffering. Life is pretty lonely at times, but I know that we will be together again, someday.
Give your friend a hug, and let her know that in time, the pain will subside, she will find things that make her happy, it just takes time. The loss can never go away, but if we hold them in our hearts and minds, this is how we honor them...

Cassidy

(215 posts)
144. I am so sorry.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 10:20 AM
10 hrs ago

I hope that the pain continues to subside and you will have the good memories in its place.

JMCKUSICK

(726 posts)
58. I'm so sorry Samplegirl
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 12:25 AM
20 hrs ago

Covid will forever be known as the time where the genius of science was met by the ignorance of social media users creating one of the greatest self owns in human history.

Response to samplegirl (Original post)

niyad

(121,181 posts)
92. JFC, you mean there was something worse than some of the appalling posts
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 02:40 AM
18 hrs ago

here???

sheshe2

(88,674 posts)
95. Yup. It was bad.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 02:48 AM
18 hrs ago

I am glad you did not see it and I am hoping samplegirl did not see it either.

Hugs.

niyad

(121,181 posts)
96. Yikes. Unfortunately, there are still a number of truly disgusting posts
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 02:57 AM
18 hrs ago

that are still here. I am stunned.

Response to sheshe2 (Reply #64)

niyad

(121,181 posts)
76. My dear SG, holding you and your friend in love and light in this horrific time.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 02:15 AM
18 hrs ago

Is there anything we can do for either of you?

Cassidy

(215 posts)
146. Covid was the 4th leading cause of death in the U.S. in 2024.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 10:24 AM
10 hrs ago

I plan to wear my mask every public place every winter for the foreseeable future. I also plan to wear them places like grocery stores year round. It stuns me that medical personnel do not wear masks. If someone gives me grief, I pretend that I am sick and offer to cough on them.

CrispyQ

(38,758 posts)
153. My sympathies.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 10:48 AM
10 hrs ago

That's a long time to suffer. I still mask & last week in the grocery store a woman said to me as we crossed in the aisle, "Covid's over." I coughed really loud inside my mask & she hustled away. It's not over!

Jarqui

(10,524 posts)
163. I've had Covid 5 times
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 11:49 AM
9 hrs ago

The first time, there wasn't a safe testing method for it so my doctor recommended against testing.
I came back with it from travelling.
I had ordered N95 masks in Jan '20 when I first heard about it - from two different places fearing an order would get stolen. Both orders never made it.
But early on, I got N95 masks. I have worn them in public ever since.
I've never missed a vaccination.
We socially distanced. etc.
My doctor and I came up with an anti covid cocktail - much of what they gave Trump when he got it.

In spite of all that, I've had it 5 times.
I have immediate family in retail.
Got it once from my dentists office.
2024 was long Covid. After a month of it in Jan, it morphed into a 12 week pneumonia and then into some sort of chromic gout-like arthritic attack (I don't drink, etc). Blood tests did not clear up until Sept.
Put on a bunch of weight from being idle so long. I still have 10 lbs to lose.

I think what Trump (& Reps like DeSantis) did about it was horrific - they killed a lot of people.
I think Dr. Fauci and others like him were heroic and wonderful - they saved lives.

A dear friend's wife nearly died from it last week. Paxlovid appears to have helped save her.
My daughter's family of four may be fighting it now. They seem to be coming through it ok. Everyone's test kits have expired and new ones haven't been easy to find.

Evolve Dammit

(19,438 posts)
193. The ones we got from the gov't were expired. I guess they have extended the dating and kits are still good?
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 06:35 PM
2 hrs ago

Jarqui

(10,524 posts)
196. I've heard they're probably still pretty good after the expiry date
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 07:11 PM
1 hr ago

If you have nothing, it might be better than nothing

but it still leaves that uncertainty "what if the test is wrong because it is past its best before date?" ...

A top 10 killer ought to have a decent supply of those tests

Katinfl

(277 posts)
171. After reading all the the responses to this thread, I am even more afraid of what is to come.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 01:08 PM
7 hrs ago

With trump and RFK Jr. In office we are screwed if something like this happens again. We were lucky because Biden was able to get us back on track after Covid but we will not have an incoming democratic president this time. I am fearing bird flu will become a thing in time.

maxsolomon

(35,504 posts)
174. The Covid Pandemic probably won't return.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 01:58 PM
7 hrs ago

Another Pandemic from whatever disease this close to Covid probably won't happen. The last one prior to Covid was during WW1.

Covid is now Endemic. A portion of the population who would have previously died from Flu or Pneumonia are now dying from Covid.

PortTack

(34,990 posts)
182. So sorry! It's beyond the pale the red idiots voted once again for this menace. Forgetting all about covid
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 04:28 PM
4 hrs ago

They all have ppl that died, or are now long covid victims. They never learn!

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