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Pototan

(2,100 posts)
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 03:15 AM 6 hrs ago

This past week gives us a road map...

...for how to handle the Trump era. Stand back and wait for them to come to us. The Trump and his MAGA cult don't have the votes to succeed on their own. They cannot unify their own party.

They can't raise the debt ceiling without the Dems. Trump can't get his tax bill through the House and Senate without Dems. SALT deduction must be included because of Blue State Republicans. He can't pass a budget and will have trouble funding his deportation plan.

What we need is patience and unity. Don't forget, his team is incompetent and too angry to act rationally.

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This past week gives us a road map... (Original Post) Pototan 6 hrs ago OP
Don't be so sure... SheltieLover 6 hrs ago #1
All I'm saying is... Pototan 5 hrs ago #5
That's true but PCIntern 3 hrs ago #9
You've got that right Pototan 2 hrs ago #10
They can't do much without Dems assuming democracy holds MadameButterfly 5 hrs ago #2
They are uniquely incompetent... rubbersole 5 hrs ago #3
So, the sensational nominees aren't the point MadameButterfly 5 hrs ago #6
I hope so Meowmee 5 hrs ago #4
Agree with the OP. I'm also thinking of another road map wnylib 5 hrs ago #7
He's going to do what he did before and just abuse the fuck out of executive orders. The goal is to consolidate as much Karasu 3 hrs ago #8

SheltieLover

(60,079 posts)
1. Don't be so sure...
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 03:42 AM
6 hrs ago

Per Sen. Kaine, the kids cancer research package passed by Senate is much narrower in scope than the orig & way less money.

STAT News set forth the 5 areas of kids cancer research in orig House Bill.

Both are set forth here:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219839784


PCIntern

(26,991 posts)
9. That's true but
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 06:03 AM
3 hrs ago

If these people had their way, they’d just let these people die of cancer like Orangina told his own family members about that kid who needed help, IN HIS OWN FAMILY!

Like they’d care about anyone else’s.

MadameButterfly

(1,906 posts)
2. They can't do much without Dems assuming democracy holds
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 03:59 AM
5 hrs ago

I do hope the Congressional rules hold him back. Yes, they are icnnompetent and angry
Wlll that make the differenc?

rubbersole

(8,681 posts)
3. They are uniquely incompetent...
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 04:01 AM
5 hrs ago

..all the cabinet picks are unqualified cronies chosen to 'own the libs'. They are a distraction for media consumption. They aren't the snake. They're the rattle. The Heritage Foundation has chosen all the undersecretaries and key personnel. Scary.

MadameButterfly

(1,906 posts)
6. So, the sensational nominees aren't the point
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 04:38 AM
5 hrs ago

It's the people lower down who will make the differnece, whoever get's confirmied?

wnylib

(24,675 posts)
7. Agree with the OP. I'm also thinking of another road map
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 04:43 AM
5 hrs ago

for Dems to follow.

The stunt about the House dropping the first bill on the orders of Musk and Mr. Trump exposed the greed of the wealthy at the expense of ordinary citizens. There will be more times when they push for benefits to the wealthy while taking them away from everyone else.

So, one messaging path for us is to hammer them over and over with labels of greed and financial elitism. Expose how each move that they make for themselves hurts the ordinary person who voted for them.

Make the labels stick. They are not the party of the middle and working classes. It's a phony image that they sold to their voters. So jump on every instance of their self-serving greed and spell out exactly what they are doing. Do it with labels and sound byte memes, not with speeches. Totally discredit them in the eyes of the people.



Karasu

(366 posts)
8. He's going to do what he did before and just abuse the fuck out of executive orders. The goal is to consolidate as much
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 05:53 AM
3 hrs ago

power as possible in the presidency while making Congress irrelevant. Not many guardrails remain, and I'm skeptical they can survive 4 years with fascists controlling all three branches of government and completely dismissing all precedent whenever they can, just like they did the first time around.

Bu that said, you're right about the incompetence. As this week should've made abundantly clear, It's going to be nonstop bumblefuckery and chaos, since this time there are almost no adults left in the room. Oftentimes, the incompetence will work in our favor, but chaos is inherently unpredictable.

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