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usonian

(14,521 posts)
Fri Dec 20, 2024, 08:52 PM 23 hrs ago

Elon Musk Being Investigated for Violating Terms of "Top Secret" Clearance

https://futurism.com/elon-musk-investigated-violating-terms-top-secret-clearance

According to a shocking report by the New York Times, the mercurial entrepreneur is being investigated by the Defense Department’s Office of Inspector General, the Air Force, and the Pentagon's Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence and Security.

That's because his space company has reportedly "repeatedly failed to comply with federal reporting protocols aimed at protecting state secrets" since at least 2021, which includes not disclosing Musk's frequent meetings with foreign leaders, most notably Russian president Vladimir Putin.

According to the report, Musk has been violating the rules set out by his "top secret" security clearance for years.

Musk was even denied high-level security access by the Air Force, according to the NYT's sources, and the Middle Eastern nation of Israel has expressed concerns that he could leak sensitive state secrets.


There are MANY great articles at Futurism, and I encourage others to post them.

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Elon Musk Being Investigated for Violating Terms of "Top Secret" Clearance (Original Post) usonian 23 hrs ago OP
Yet the US gov't keeps funding him despite the violations. Irish_Dem 23 hrs ago #1
This t-shirt might make a good present for him. TheBlackAdder 21 hrs ago #14
I don't see the tee-shirt. Irish_Dem 12 hrs ago #29
i've wondered for years why they let a private citizen MadameButterfly 20 hrs ago #23
Yes and Musk was said to have interfered with the Ukraine comm system during a crucial battle. Irish_Dem 12 hrs ago #30
I was aware of that MadameButterfly 6 hrs ago #41
Yes treason and a threat to US and Ukraine national security big time. Irish_Dem 6 hrs ago #43
Truly remarkable! yellow dahlia 5 hrs ago #46
I still get shocked because there is no bottom to their insanity, crimes and treason. Irish_Dem 4 hrs ago #48
NOTHING will come of this vapor2 23 hrs ago #2
The kangaroo court let one big fish get away. Bad example. usonian 22 hrs ago #4
How the hell did this go on for years when Biden was in charge?? lostnfound 21 hrs ago #13
Infuriating, isn't it! calimary 20 hrs ago #19
our justice system is PAINFULLY slow is the problem and can be gamed by people LymphocyteLover 20 hrs ago #22
The one climmer of hope is that non-presidents MadameButterfly 20 hrs ago #25
We let them get away with highway robbery MadameButterfly 20 hrs ago #24
And if you were him, yellow dahlia 5 hrs ago #47
Because he picked a professional thumb-twiddler for AG n/t D23MIURG23 2 hrs ago #53
Please tell me there is a rocket docket with a death sentence for this prick SheltieLover 23 hrs ago #3
Well, one day, one of his Frankenstein monsters might kill him. usonian 22 hrs ago #5
That works for me. Can we pls fast forward? Lol SheltieLover 22 hrs ago #6
I dunno. usonian 22 hrs ago #7
Ever watch Stached fire fighter who covers ev battery fires SheltieLover 22 hrs ago #8
Lithium battery fires take thousands of gallons of water to put out. usonian 21 hrs ago #15
Thx SheltieLover 18 hrs ago #27
Mercurial entrepreneur? ShazzieB 22 hrs ago #9
No. Immigrant Traitor. Captain Zero 21 hrs ago #18
See my post on apartheid immigrants Musk and Thiel. usonian 20 hrs ago #20
I found it, thanks. ShazzieB 2 hrs ago #54
Nicely put! nt returnee 3 hrs ago #51
Seize his assets and charge him with treason. Bluethroughu 21 hrs ago #10
When did this stop being a HOLY SHIT moment? JMCKUSICK 21 hrs ago #11
Musk is a dutch boy piece of stinking shit. Klarkashton 21 hrs ago #12
The shadow of apartheid South Africa in America. usonian 21 hrs ago #16
Not Dutch, Afrikaner. There's a big difference. ShazzieB 2 hrs ago #55
May be 3auld6phart 21 hrs ago #17
Again, two sets of laws for two sets of people. ReRe 20 hrs ago #21
i don't get how the hell this has been ALLOWED to go on for YEARS! wtf is going on with this country and the orleans 19 hrs ago #26
and DOJ in particular Evolve Dammit 7 hrs ago #37
'frequent meetings with Vladmir Putin' is about to go from red flag to resume bullet point in the White House prodigitalson 18 hrs ago #28
terminate his contract for non compliance rampartd 10 hrs ago #31
Trump will shut the investigation down. Martin68 10 hrs ago #32
Not enough is said about his drug abuse. Maggiemayhem 9 hrs ago #33
Why would anyone give Elon Musk security clearance for anything? ananda 9 hrs ago #34
No shit Sherlock orangecrush 7 hrs ago #35
And trump's ? republianmushroom 7 hrs ago #36
Very alarming and discouraging coupled with Orange Julius getting the scepter in a few weeks. Then it matters not Evolve Dammit 7 hrs ago #38
This will go no where Figarosmom 7 hrs ago #39
Trump will put the fix in for him. creeksneakers2 7 hrs ago #40
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver 6 hrs ago #42
So what? They won't do anything to him. n/t malthaussen 6 hrs ago #44
Two things - yellow dahlia 5 hrs ago #45
Anyone who ever got a clearance has to be outraged. usonian 3 hrs ago #50
Cuff and stuff his Afrikkkaner ass Evolve Dammit 4 hrs ago #49
laws can't touch the billionaires in the U.S. I'm convinced. trump is proof. C Moon 3 hrs ago #52
I worked on very sensitive government projects and if I did this shit I would be in jail............ turbinetree 26 min ago #56
I mean after all moniss 23 min ago #57

MadameButterfly

(1,911 posts)
23. i've wondered for years why they let a private citizen
Fri Dec 20, 2024, 11:57 PM
20 hrs ago

much less this crazy meddle with communications in our wars abroad

Irish_Dem

(59,447 posts)
30. Yes and Musk was said to have interfered with the Ukraine comm system during a crucial battle.
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 07:09 AM
12 hrs ago

And the US lets him get away with it.

MadameButterfly

(1,911 posts)
41. I was aware of that
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 01:09 PM
6 hrs ago

and wondered why he was allowed to continue providing military support. It's like saying "Oh well," after Benedict Arnold throws a battle to the British.

Irish_Dem

(59,447 posts)
43. Yes treason and a threat to US and Ukraine national security big time.
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 01:15 PM
6 hrs ago

No one cares or even notices it.

Truly remarkable times we live in.

usonian

(14,521 posts)
4. The kangaroo court let one big fish get away. Bad example.
Fri Dec 20, 2024, 09:10 PM
22 hrs ago

But all others who were caught have all been locked up. AFAICT.

Yes, it sucks massively.

lostnfound

(16,708 posts)
13. How the hell did this go on for years when Biden was in charge??
Fri Dec 20, 2024, 10:39 PM
21 hrs ago

This is what electing a democratic president was supposed to protect us from. And exposing Elon would have exposed the whole russian influence operation in an undeniable, loud way.

Why are we just learning about this now?
This sort of explains why Elon thought he was going to jail if kamala got elected.

LymphocyteLover

(6,961 posts)
22. our justice system is PAINFULLY slow is the problem and can be gamed by people
Fri Dec 20, 2024, 11:54 PM
20 hrs ago

who can afford good lawyers, like Voldemoron

MadameButterfly

(1,911 posts)
24. We let them get away with highway robbery
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 12:02 AM
20 hrs ago

and worse, then they go after us for honest driticism.

It's as if they assumed there was no emergency, they would get to it eventually after Biden is re-elected.

yellow dahlia

(130 posts)
47. And if you were him,
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 02:15 PM
5 hrs ago

wouldn't you do everything you could to make sure Kamala didn't get elected?

usonian

(14,521 posts)
5. Well, one day, one of his Frankenstein monsters might kill him.
Fri Dec 20, 2024, 09:14 PM
22 hrs ago

Better him than other drivers and pedestrians.

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SheltieLover

(60,128 posts)
6. That works for me. Can we pls fast forward? Lol
Fri Dec 20, 2024, 09:16 PM
22 hrs ago

Does he drive those pieces of junk? Rattletraps.

usonian

(14,521 posts)
7. I dunno.
Fri Dec 20, 2024, 09:23 PM
22 hrs ago

Maybe Santa will give him "Hot Wheels" for Christmas.

Bloomberg says:

Tesla Doesn’t Burn Fuel,
It Burns Cash

SheltieLover

(60,128 posts)
8. Ever watch Stached fire fighter who covers ev battery fires
Fri Dec 20, 2024, 09:26 PM
22 hrs ago

Omfg. None of those things should be allowed to be sold until safer!

Trust me, msm does NOT cover what's happening in the real world with those pieces of toxic, dangerous shit!

usonian

(14,521 posts)
15. Lithium battery fires take thousands of gallons of water to put out.
Fri Dec 20, 2024, 10:56 PM
21 hrs ago

Gasoline burns, but not like lithium.

Tanker trucks filled with cocaine dissolved in petrol, another matter.



If you want to predict the future, watch some Bond films.

SheltieLover

(60,128 posts)
27. Thx
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 01:17 AM
18 hrs ago

I'm more interested in the way the msm spins truth into bullshit about ev battery fires.

ShazzieB

(18,923 posts)
9. Mercurial entrepreneur?
Fri Dec 20, 2024, 10:06 PM
22 hrs ago

Is that another term for smarmy, arrogant, afrikaner jackhole and all around pain in the ass? Why, yes, I believe it is!

usonian

(14,521 posts)
20. See my post on apartheid immigrants Musk and Thiel.
Fri Dec 20, 2024, 11:39 PM
20 hrs ago

Somewhere in this thread. No numbers on small phone screens.

ShazzieB

(18,923 posts)
54. I found it, thanks.
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 05:19 PM
2 hrs ago

Found the post with the link: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219696928

Very interesting reading, thanks. I always suspected that growing up in apartheid South Africa had something to do with some of his views on things like race. I see I was not wrong!

Bluethroughu

(5,948 posts)
10. Seize his assets and charge him with treason.
Fri Dec 20, 2024, 10:16 PM
21 hrs ago

Ooooorrrr, is he a double agent against Putin????

Yikes! Sucks to be him.

ShazzieB

(18,923 posts)
55. Not Dutch, Afrikaner. There's a big difference.
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 05:34 PM
2 hrs ago

Holland is one of the most liberal countries in northern Europe (which means it's one of the most liberal in the world). The Afrikaners of South Africa originally came from Holland a long time ago, but the country evolved in very different ways from the country they came from. Among other things, they are the folks who gave the world apartheid.

ReRe

(10,887 posts)
21. Again, two sets of laws for two sets of people.
Fri Dec 20, 2024, 11:54 PM
20 hrs ago

I found that Dec 17th article in the NYTs and it was lengthy. Had to read a couple paragraphs twice. Same as Trump, Musk gets away with crimes all over the place, where you or I would be hauled in and convicted. Of course, the US Government will not enforce it's on laws, and in Musk's case, which are against our National Security! The more I read these days, the less secure I feel!

orleans

(35,205 posts)
26. i don't get how the hell this has been ALLOWED to go on for YEARS! wtf is going on with this country and the
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 12:12 AM
19 hrs ago

government???

prodigitalson

(2,932 posts)
28. 'frequent meetings with Vladmir Putin' is about to go from red flag to resume bullet point in the White House
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 01:28 AM
18 hrs ago

rampartd

(788 posts)
31. terminate his contract for non compliance
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 09:18 AM
10 hrs ago

and do it quick before dear leader regains the power to declassify "with his mind."

the idea that we could have any state secrets remaining seems kind of old fashioned since the mar a lago "gestapo attack" or whatever they call the routine execution of a search warrant.

ananda

(30,916 posts)
34. Why would anyone give Elon Musk security clearance for anything?
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 10:50 AM
9 hrs ago

Trump too!

We are so fubared!

republianmushroom

(18,139 posts)
36. And trump's ?
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 12:41 PM
7 hrs ago

Laws, ethics don't mean a thing to these people, they are above the law. Don't think so just ask, Merrick the Meek or the Roberts supreme court.

Evolve Dammit

(19,033 posts)
38. Very alarming and discouraging coupled with Orange Julius getting the scepter in a few weeks. Then it matters not
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 12:43 PM
7 hrs ago

Response to usonian (Original post)

usonian

(14,521 posts)
50. Anyone who ever got a clearance has to be outraged.
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 04:29 PM
3 hrs ago

They check habits, speak to neighbors, drugs and alcohol? And my goodness, every damn trip outside the country. Maybe more, but they didn't say what!

I honored the rules. And know people who still do.

No traitors in my foxhole workshop.

turbinetree

(25,414 posts)
56. I worked on very sensitive government projects and if I did this shit I would be in jail............
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 07:41 PM
26 min ago

end of fucking story...............

moniss

(6,116 posts)
57. I mean after all
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 07:44 PM
23 min ago

what could possibly go wrong in allowing a man who honors only greed and power to have access to highly classified defense information knowing he pals around with our adversaries?

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