AP: Police deny sitting on evidence as Netflix doc brings renewed attention to JonBenet Ramsey's killing

[Dennis Donovan]

AP - Police deny sitting on evidence as Netflix doc brings renewed attention to JonBenet Ramsey’s killing



By COLLEEN SLEVIN
Updated 3:23 PM EST, November 27, 2024

DENVER (AP) — Amid renewed interest in the killing of JonBenet Ramsey triggered in part by a new Netflix documentary, police in Boulder, Colorado, refuted assertions this week that there is viable evidence and leads about the 1996 killing of the 6-year-old girl that they are not pursuing.

JonBenet Ramsey, who competed in beauty pageants, was found dead in the basement of her family’s home in the college town of Boulder the day after Christmas in 1996. Her body was found several hours after her mother called 911 to say her daughter was missing and a ransom note had been left behind. The details of the crime and video footage of JonBenet competing in pageants propelled the case into one of the highest-profile mysteries in the United States.

The police comments came as part of their annual update on the investigation, a month before the 28th anniversary of JonBenet’s killing. Police said they released it a little earlier due to the increased attention on the case, apparently referring to the three-part Netflix series “Cold Case: Who Killed JonBenet Ramsey.”

In a video statement, Boulder Police Chief Steve Redfearn said the department welcomes news coverage and documentaries about the killing of JonBenet, who would have been 34 this year, as a way to generate possible new leads. He said the department is committed to solving the case but needs to be careful about what it shares about the investigation to protect a possible future prosecution.

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[Jilly_in_VA]

1. From everything I have heard and read

and it's been a great deal (and NOT tabloids either!), the police botched the investigation from the beginning and the DA's office was the one that sat on any evidence. Boulder is a very cliquish town and although the Ramseys were sort of outsiders, they moved in "insider" circles, and some of their so-called friends may well have pulled some strings.

[Irish_Dem]

2. The evidence points to a minor child as the perpetrator of the crime.

Under Colorado state law, a child cannot be found guilty of any crime. And cannot be named.

The Ramseys didn't know this when they found the body, but they knew the crime was committed by a family member.

The Boulder County Grand Jury indicted both Patsy and John for knowing their daughter was in danger but refused to protect her, resulting in the murder of their child. They were also indicted for the cover up of the First Degree murder in their home.

John and Patsy Ramsey staged the domestic murder to look like an intruder murder. The facts of the case do not support an intruder murder. The FBI took one look at the three page ransom note and said "look at the family."

The Ramseys refused to cooperate with the police but instead went on TV talk shows to gaslight the public. They spent $millions hiring attack dog attorneys (one was the infamous Lin Wood who later lost his license,) and PR teams to rehab their image.

John Ramsey was a very wealthy business owner, a military defense contractor connected to Lockheed Martin, politically connected with friends in high places. The morning after the murder the police on the scene were told to stand down by the Boulder Chief of Police, and to treat the Ramseys as victims, not suspects. The case never recovered from that point forward.

[LeftInTX]

3. All of her injuries indicate that she was alive when she was strangled (petechial hemorrhages) and was alive when

the brush handle penetrated her. She even had defensive wounds on her neck.

[Irish_Dem]

5. Yes she was alive during the sexual assault, there were red blood cells at the wound site.

Yes she was raped with a broken paint brush handle while alive.

Autopsy report showed vaginal walls and hymen damage located at the 7 o'clock position.

The report also showed this child was chronically sexually abused and both the damage from the chronic abuse and damage done the night of the murder were located at the same spot.

So we know the person sexually abusing her was the one who killed her that night.

Some people think the strangulation was done postmortem as part of John and Patsy's staging.
I disagree, I believe the strangulation was done prior to death by the person who killed her.

Sequence of events was sexual assault, head blow, strangulation. I believe the strangulation was done by her brother to move the body so his parents would not find it.

She was unconscious when she was strangled so she could not have made the defensive marks on her neck. I believe these were done by Patsy Ramsey when she found the body the next morning. She desperately tried remove the ligature, but it was the kind that only tightened when she pulled on it.

[milestogo]

13. No.

Her pediatrician says that there were no signs that she was sexually abused or abused in any other way.

The rest of the family was abused for years by the police and the media.

Example: There were claims that it had to be domestic because there were no tracks in the snow. BUT THERE WAS NO SNOW.

There were claims that Mr Ramsey flew his child back to Atlanta in a private plane. BUT HE DID NOT HAVE A PLANE OR A PILOT'S LICENSE.

Mr Ramsey discovered the body because THE POLICE TOLD HIM to go through the house looking for her, and he did. Of course he picked her up. He's a father, not CSI.

[Irish_Dem]

15. Autopsy and independent MD examination showed sexual abuse.

The pediatrician never performed a pelvic exam.
He never would have seen the hymen damage.
He was also CYA.

The autopsy results were examined by a panel of sexual abuse medical experts
who verified the autopsy findings.

The FBI took one look at the ransom note and said "look at the family."

The Ramseys accused their friends, employees, neighbors of the crime.
Stonewalled the police. And gaslit the public.

John Ramsey struts around now on the crime scene celebrity tour.
Still blaming everyone else.

The Ramseys have no shame whatsoever.

The Boulder Grand Jury indicted John and Patsy for the felonies of knowing their child
was in danger and refusing to protect her. And then for staging the domestic murder
in their home.

The Ramseys do not deserve one ounce of sympathy for the neglect and cover up.

I have been following this case for 30 years and done my homework.
EDIT to correct to 30 years as per feedback.

All the data, evidence, facts point to one suspect.
The Boulder Grand Jury indictments tell the story.

[milestogo]

16. Its only been 28 years.

The Ramseys show no shame because they have done no wrong. This case was screwed up from the moment the police arrived at the home and did not treat it as a crime scene. Its their job to solve the case, not to plant bits and pieces of misinformation in the media.

It is not their job to try the case in the media, as has been happening for decades. The police knew within weeks that the parents were ruled out by DNA, but they did not release the information because they wanted to feed the media frenzy.

The whole case was a shitshow due to it being tried in the press. I too, have followed the case. I believe this was a crime done by a stranger and not by a family who loved her. This was a heinous crime and I do not believe either of these parents are capable of it. They had no history of such behavior.

[Irish_Dem]

17. Thanks just seems like 40 years.

You have a right to your opinion.

There is no evidence to support your opinion.

[Irish_Dem]

21. There is zero evidence of an intruder.

So how does an intruder come into the home and commit this crime?

Rape a 6 year old with a broken paint brush handle, beat and strangle her to death
and the family doesn't notice it?

Then the intruder hangs around after the crime scene for many hours.

Writing a ransom note twice. There was evidence of the note written at least twice.
Cleaning up the body, destroying evidence.
Wiping the crime scene down.
Redressing the victim.

All with three sleeping people in the home. This makes no sense.
None of the weapons were brought into the home.
The ransom note was not brought into the home.
All items were in the home.

So someone who was so good at the clean up and staging didn't think to write
the note ahead of time. And counted on murder weapons being handy?

The autopsy shows that the victim was chronically sexually abused prior to the night of the murder. The chronic abuse damage was in exactly the same spot as the SA on the night of the murder.

So we are supposed to believe the stranger intruder was sneaking into the house for quite some time prior to the murder and no one noticed it.

Theories have to make some basic sense.

Most sexual sadistic murdering pedophiles take their victims from the home for obvious reasons.
Any adult would know a 6 year old is going to scream when tortured with a rape by broken paintbrush handle. And you do that with three sleeping people in the home?

Most people familiar with the evidence and science of this case understand that this crime was not committed by a pedophile intruder or a group of kidnappers.

Kidnapping is a financial crime, not a personal one.
Sexual sadist pedophiles do not hang around the home for hours torturing and murdering a 6 yr old.

The police and FBI know that a victim found in the home who has been raped, beaten, strangled is the work of someone in the family. This is a personal domestic crime. Not a financial crime, not the work of a sexual sadist intruder.

I encourage you to look at the facts of the case. Do not fall for the Ramsey hype.
They spent millions of dollars and were successful with their cover up.

The good citizens of Boulder County Grand Jury examined dozens of witnesses and 30,000 pieces of evidence, spent 13 months working on the case. They then indicted both Patsy and John for the felony staging of the murder in their home. And for felony child neglect for knowing their daughter was in danger and did not protect her resulting in her first degree murder. The GJ could not indict the actual perpetrator of the SA and murder because the Colorado Children's Law does not permit a child under 10 to be found guilty of any crime.

We know the Grand Jury had access to more information that we have. And they made their decision based on facts and evidence.

The Ramsey cover up and multi millionaires dollar cover up saved John and Patsy from going to prison.

[Sky Jewels]

23. The Netflix documentary refutes this theory

and makes a strong case that the Ramsey's were falsely accused. If you haven't seen it, it's worth watching.

[Jilly_in_VA]

7. Incorrect.

There is DNA evidence (yet untested) unrelated to ANY of the Ramseys.

[Irish_Dem]

8. Ramsey gaslighting.

John and Patsy Ramsey spent millions of dollars gaslighting and lying.

There is trace DNA most likely from other sources.
Not big enough to test.

All the evidence points to a domestic murder.

[Jilly_in_VA]

18. DNA evidence

that HAS NOT BEEN TESTED. How rockheaded are you? This is not gaslighting by anyone, it is fact. But go ahead and believe what you want, that a 10 year old could have committed this.

[LeftInTX]

20. It has been tested. However, it does not match

to anyone who was tested. The Ramseys and their close associates were tested. It also does not match to other suspects tested. There has not been a match in the CODIS database.

[niyad]

12. Don't forget that her father disturbed and contaminated the crime scene.

[Polybius]

9. How old was the alleged murderer at the time?

What relation to the family was he/she?

[Irish_Dem]

14. Two weeks shy of ten years old.

Brother of the victim.

[Cha]

4. I was always interested because it was

just so bizarre and I was born and raised in Denver and went to Boulder a lot.. Beautiful town.

TY

[niyad]

6. Let's see: alarm system not on. no footprints in the snow. draft copies

of the ransom note. room where she was found, winow too small, cobwebbed, not shown to police. father supposedly "finds" her body, picks her up and carries her, disturbing crime scene. Boulder police had not had a homicide in years. Brother basically admits on tv several years ago that he did it.

HMMMMMMM

[robbob]

10. Can you give more details about your last sentence?

I did a quick search about the younger brother but can’t find anything except “vehement denials”. And something about a Dr. Phil interview; did he say something there?

…just curious.

[niyad]

11. First, burke is older. He was nine at the time. His interview with that

quack phil mcgraw was dicussed here at the time. burke's behaviour was odd, smiling at inappropriate times, his answers did not make sense. People who watched that interview likened it to oj simpson's "If I Did It" interview.

Make of it what you will.

[Jilly_in_VA]

19. Dr Phil is a quack

and if you believe anything on that interview, you might be as crazy as he is. If he were an attorney, what he did would be called "leading the witness".

[Cha]

22. I watched the Netflix Doc yesterday.. The DNA Didn't match

there was no snow in the back... No Indictment after a year of investigation.

The Police did Botch it, IMO. and they hid the fact that the DNA Did Not match. They and the media tabloids and all had a narrative and that didn't fit in.

[Mike 03]

25. Wasn't there something, too, about that "ransom note"?

Didn't it contain certain phrases that mirrored a book that Patsy Ramsey was reading and had on her bedside table? A thriller fiction book that was popular at the time?

A sentence about "growing a brain"?

Sorry, I used to know this stuff better, but it's been a long time.

[dalton99a]

24. Where is Burke Ramsey now?

https://www.today.com/popculture/burke-ramsey-now-rcna181229
Where is Burke Ramsey, the brother of JonBenét Ramsey, now?

[orangecrush]

26. Gives me the willies

That house has been sold a number of times since the murder.

No one seems to want to stay for long.

You couldn't pay me to spend a night there.

[TurboDem]

27. There has been a cover up from day one!

The entire family was involved in one way or another. There were too many coincidences for them not to have had anything to do with it. Pineapple found in her stomach even though Patsy said she came straight home and went to bed and didn't eat anything. Ransom note was written inside the house. Note mentions the exact amount of John Ramsey's bonus they were demanding as a ransom.

I will never be convinced that they didn't have something to do with it. Even if definitive proof comes out that clears them, I want it corroborated by other sources.

The Ramsey's did it!