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Omnipresent

(6,342 posts)
7. Seventy seven percent either can't, or don't want to vote.
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 09:30 PM
5 hrs ago

Plus there probably wouldn’t be enough ballots printed up or polling places for them to even vote at.

Celerity

(46,176 posts)
9. no, closing in on 63-64% or so of the VEP (voting eligible population) will end up voting when the final numbers come in
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 09:55 PM
5 hrs ago

in 2022 the VEP was 242,690,810

in 2020 the VEP was 239,924,038 (around 66 per cent turnout, around 158 million, voted)

https://www.electproject.org/2022g

https://www.electproject.org/2020g

add in around 2.75 million (the approximate increase between 2020 and 2022) and the 2024 number for VEP should be around 245.5 million

If the final 2024 total vote (all candidates, all states) is around 156-157 million, that means closing in on 63-64 per cent turnout

https://apnews.com/article/election-2024-voter-turnout-republicans-trump-harris-7ef18c115c8e1e76210820e0146bc3a5

November 17, 2024

The 2024 presidential election featured sky-high turnout, approaching the historic levels of the 2020 contest and contradicting long-held conventional political wisdom that Republicans struggle to win races in which many people vote.

According to Associated Press elections data, more than 153 million ballots were cast in this year’s race between Republican Donald Trump, now the president-elect, and Democrat Kamala Harris, the vice president, with hundreds of thousands of more still being tallied in slower-counting states such as California. When those ballots are fully tabulated, the number of votes will come even closer to the 158 million in the 2020 presidential contest, which was the highest turnout election since women were given the right to vote more than a century ago.


ITAL

(889 posts)
2. I mean
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 09:20 PM
6 hrs ago

You could make that argument about every election. Our turnout is so poor, no one ever has more than about 25-30 percent vote for them.

onenote

(44,620 posts)
8. Weird argument.
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 09:52 PM
5 hrs ago

Not sure what point the OP is trying to make. You could argue that Obama received the votes of less than 21% of the population in 2012 and that Joe received the votes of less than 25% of the population in 2020. Or that Bill Clinton received the votes of less that 17.5% of the population in 1992.

Again, what exactly is the point?

bluesbassman

(19,823 posts)
10. Maybe that there's no such thing as a "mandate".
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 10:50 PM
4 hrs ago

Certainly not one like the MAGA cultists are running around acting like they have.

onenote

(44,620 posts)
11. That he doesn't have a mandate is essentially meaningless from a practical standpoint.
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 12:29 AM
3 hrs ago

Do you think that it will make any difference in what he tries to do and in the support his blindly loyal following and appointees will give him? Its nice to know that, unlike the elections I lived through earlier in my life in which Nixon defeated McGovern by 18 million votes and Reagan defeated Mondale by17 million votes, Trump's popular vote margin was pretty close. But I'm also not naive enough to think its going to make a difference in how he tries to govern.

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