Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

DemocratSinceBirth

(100,324 posts)
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 10:17 AM Nov 20

This message was self-deleted by its author

This message was self-deleted by its author (DemocratSinceBirth) on Wed Nov 20, 2024, 01:52 PM. When the original post in a discussion thread is self-deleted, the entire discussion thread is automatically locked so new replies cannot be posted.

36 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
This message was self-deleted by its author (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Nov 20 OP
I suggest he stand up and fight! FarPoint Nov 20 #1
"it's a club and you ain't in it" Klarkashton Nov 20 #2
I choose to interpret it as listening to what rfk jr has to say before he says "hell no" mucifer Nov 20 #3
We have already heard enough of RFKjr running his mouth at length to say "hell no." Irish_Dem Nov 20 #24
As the worm spreads. Autumn Nov 20 #4
From Politico: Dennis Donovan Nov 20 #5
Breaks my heart. I was hoping my Governor would be the next Democratic President. Autumn Nov 20 #6
Booker's not our Governor Mossfern Nov 20 #10
I replied to a post from Political. I guess you missed that. Autumn Nov 20 #12
It wasn't a gotcha Mossfern Nov 20 #35
Perhaps you missed the fact that the poster was referring to CO Gov. Polis? niyad Nov 20 #33
I have been informed about that, thank you Mossfern Nov 20 #34
I was sickened when I saw Gov. Polis' comments, and so was every Dem I niyad Nov 20 #32
lmaooooo WhiskeyGrinder Nov 20 #7
W.T.F? spanone Nov 20 #8
FFS! edhopper Nov 20 #9
NO Rebl2 Nov 20 #11
Egads, he rehearsing for Morning Joe? Emile Nov 20 #13
Normalizing lunacy. travelingthrulife Nov 20 #14
I hate hope all their children get a bad case of measles and some get polio, sorry Walleye Nov 20 #15
Alrighty then Solly Mack Nov 20 #16
Grow a fucking spine Sanity Claws Nov 20 #17
Perhaps it's best to hold hearings than endure a recess appointment EYESORE 9001 Nov 20 #18
The article I read has That Cory Booker has been a supporter for healthy food , not that he is voting to confirm RFK jr MacKasey Nov 20 #19
Where does he say that?? Disaffected Nov 20 #20
See Post Five. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 20 #21
But that post quote doesn't say anything about Booker Disaffected Nov 20 #29
And once again gentlemanly politics kicks us in the nuts. nt Hotler Nov 20 #22
Hey. don't forget to send "fighter" Cory a contribution of $50 for 2026 though!! awesomerwb1 Nov 20 #23
Get ready for the return of Quisling Democrats alarimer Nov 20 #25
Seems to me Macrophylla Nov 20 #26
Hanging by petards I guess. nt Maru Kitteh Nov 20 #27
Some of what polis said echoes some of MontanaFarmer Nov 20 #28
Call his office/email him and ask WHY? vapor2 Nov 20 #30
Dear lord claudette Nov 20 #31
Where is the source that he is open to confirming RFK jr? I'm not seeing it anywhere. chowder66 Nov 20 #36

FarPoint

(13,654 posts)
1. I suggest he stand up and fight!
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 10:18 AM
Nov 20

What will his voters say when they learn he would not fight for them?

Klarkashton

(2,152 posts)
2. "it's a club and you ain't in it"
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 10:19 AM
Nov 20

Face it we are just pawns in their game. Pay your taxes, consume and shut up about it.

mucifer

(24,864 posts)
3. I choose to interpret it as listening to what rfk jr has to say before he says "hell no"
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 10:20 AM
Nov 20

Irish_Dem

(58,279 posts)
24. We have already heard enough of RFKjr running his mouth at length to say "hell no."
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 11:58 AM
Nov 20

Autumn

(46,395 posts)
4. As the worm spreads.
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 10:22 AM
Nov 20

Dennis Donovan

(26,234 posts)
5. From Politico:
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 10:25 AM
Nov 20
Politico - RFK Jr.’s surprising support

By NATALIE FERTIG | 11/19/2024 07:04 PM EST

RAW MILK REVOLT — When Colorado Gov. Jared Polis recently posted on X in support of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s opposition to vaccine mandates and willingness to “take on big pharma and corporate ag,” the backlash was swift. Even Hawaii Gov. Josh Green, a physician and fellow Democrat, said he was “disappointed” in Polis. An hour later, Polis clarified his first statement — but did not back down.

“If as a country we follow the science we would also be far more concerned about the impact of pesticides on public health, ag policy on nutrition, and the lack of access to prescription drugs due to drug high prices,” Polis wrote on November 14. “I am for a major shake-up in institutions like the [Food and Drug Administration] that have been barriers to lowering drug costs and promoting healthy food choices.”

Turns out, Polis isn’t the only politician who shares some health policy views with RFK: So does Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.), who posted a video about reforming the food system on Monday. What was poised to be a Polis pile-on became a social media lovefest — Kennedy reposted Booker’s video and Polis retweeted Kennedy.

In supporting these policies, Polis and Booker helped mainstream Kennedy, who’s been criticized for promoting disinformation about vaccines. But they’ve also harkened back a Democratic Party of old which challenged corporate agriculture and pharmaceutical companies, questioned government mandates, popularized organic foods and encouraged exploring medical marijuana and acupuncture. It’s a party that shows up less and less these days.

“Eastern liberals have backed themselves into a position of defending institutions that they would have once seen as dubious, like [Centers for Disease Control and Prevention] or the FDA,” said Joe Lowndes, a lecturer of political science at Hunter College with a focus on right-wing politics and populism. “Many people who kind of come more directly from more counter-cultural-friendly environments see that differently, and saw RFK differently.”

/snip

Autumn

(46,395 posts)
6. Breaks my heart. I was hoping my Governor would be the next Democratic President.
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 10:28 AM
Nov 20

Mossfern

(3,201 posts)
10. Booker's not our Governor
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 10:33 AM
Nov 20

Murphy is, and I don't think he's planning on running.
Booker is our US Senator.

I don't see the connection.

Autumn

(46,395 posts)
12. I replied to a post from Political. I guess you missed that.
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 10:35 AM
Nov 20

Last edited Wed Nov 20, 2024, 11:24 AM - Edit history (1)

Sorry to ruin your little gotcha.

Mossfern

(3,201 posts)
35. It wasn't a gotcha
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 12:22 PM
Nov 20

I was honestly confused.
I've been told to apologize, so... sorry.

Why would I be trying to get one up on you regarding this?
I'm still confused.

The OP was about Booker - I mistakenly thought that's who you were talking about.

niyad

(120,272 posts)
33. Perhaps you missed the fact that the poster was referring to CO Gov. Polis?
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 12:17 PM
Nov 20

You owe that poster an apology.

Mossfern

(3,201 posts)
34. I have been informed about that, thank you
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 12:19 PM
Nov 20

I didn't insult the poster, and considering that I'm a grown woman, I don't appreciate being told to "say sorry."

niyad

(120,272 posts)
32. I was sickened when I saw Gov. Polis' comments, and so was every Dem I
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 12:15 PM
Nov 20

know in our state. I know mine was not the only angry phone call.

WhiskeyGrinder

(23,932 posts)
7. lmaooooo
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 10:29 AM
Nov 20

spanone

(137,564 posts)
8. W.T.F?
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 10:29 AM
Nov 20

edhopper

(34,921 posts)
9. FFS!
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 10:29 AM
Nov 20

The Democrats who actually can do something (as opposed to you or me) lying down and playing dead will fuck us all the more.

Rebl2

(14,794 posts)
11. NO
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 10:35 AM
Nov 20

Just NO!

Emile

(30,076 posts)
13. Egads, he rehearsing for Morning Joe?
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 10:36 AM
Nov 20

travelingthrulife

(796 posts)
14. Normalizing lunacy.
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 10:40 AM
Nov 20

y

Walleye

(35,891 posts)
15. I hate hope all their children get a bad case of measles and some get polio, sorry
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 11:00 AM
Nov 20

Vaccines are not a “personal choice“ they are a public health measure. Don’t know why people don’t understand contagion and infectiousness. It’s been around for centuries.

Solly Mack

(92,902 posts)
16. Alrighty then
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 11:04 AM
Nov 20

Sanity Claws

(22,045 posts)
17. Grow a fucking spine
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 11:05 AM
Nov 20

I am so sick of this. Makes me wonder about him.

EYESORE 9001

(27,531 posts)
18. Perhaps it's best to hold hearings than endure a recess appointment
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 11:07 AM
Nov 20

where congressional and corporate media cameras will capture the madness of brain worm guy.

MacKasey

(1,198 posts)
19. The article I read has That Cory Booker has been a supporter for healthy food , not that he is voting to confirm RFK jr
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 11:15 AM
Nov 20

Disaffected

(5,097 posts)
20. Where does he say that??
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 11:24 AM
Nov 20

DemocratSinceBirth

(100,324 posts)
21. See Post Five.
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 11:28 AM
Nov 20

Disaffected

(5,097 posts)
29. But that post quote doesn't say anything about Booker
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 12:11 PM
Nov 20

being "open to confirming Oz". It only sez Booker is in agreement with some of Kennedy's health views, mainly in respect to food policy (which IMO is quite a reasonable position). I'm thinking Booker knows Kennedy is a quack in other aspects of health care, such as immunization, and would not support him, I hope, for that and other similar reasons.

Hotler

(12,237 posts)
22. And once again gentlemanly politics kicks us in the nuts. nt
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 11:37 AM
Nov 20

awesomerwb1

(4,580 posts)
23. Hey. don't forget to send "fighter" Cory a contribution of $50 for 2026 though!!
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 11:56 AM
Nov 20

alarimer

(16,598 posts)
25. Get ready for the return of Quisling Democrats
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 12:04 PM
Nov 20

Does he not understand that he should vote against every single fucking Trump appointee? Because this is WAR. Fuck bipartisanship.

Macrophylla

(123 posts)
26. Seems to me
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 12:08 PM
Nov 20

He threw opposition onto Republicans laps thus all responsibilities to opposition at their feet.
But hey...go ahead and light your hair on fire it seems the popular past time here.

Maru Kitteh

(29,146 posts)
27. Hanging by petards I guess. nt
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 12:09 PM
Nov 20

MontanaFarmer

(743 posts)
28. Some of what polis said echoes some of
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 12:11 PM
Nov 20

what senator Booker has said in the past, even when he ran for president, regarding the ag oligopoly and its impact on our health. RFK isn't wrong about that. The problem is, you can't have him ala carte. The vaccine BS will be why booker votes against him in the end but a public confirmation hearing wherein JBS, Sangeeta, bayer, conagra and the like are exposed to the public a little more is not a bad idea. The hearing is going to happen regardless so let's use it as an opportunity.

vapor2

(1,553 posts)
30. Call his office/email him and ask WHY?
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 12:14 PM
Nov 20

I find this quite concerning.

claudette

(4,557 posts)
31. Dear lord
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 12:14 PM
Nov 20

will the Democrats EVER learn how to fight? I'm so disheartened about that.

chowder66

(9,842 posts)
36. Where is the source that he is open to confirming RFK jr? I'm not seeing it anywhere.
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 01:10 PM
Nov 20

There is an article linked in the thread and it says nothing about Booker being open to confirmation. That article links to this article;

snip.....

"Last week, Booker, who tries to stay healthy by avoiding processed sugar and animal products, acknowledged that he and Kennedy have had similar ideas on the connection between food and health — but said he didn’t trust the coming Trump administration.

“I feel like he’s lifted paragraphs from my speech talking about this crisis,” Booker said of Kennedy. “Color me skeptical about a president that did a lot of things in his last administration to undermine people's access to healthy, quality food, tried to lower nutrition standards and do the kind of things that [are] not making America healthy.”"

https://archive.ph/rkXjC#selection-1243.0-1247.159

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»This message was self-del...