Is Trump trying to kill us? Authoritarian expert says yes. Here's how

[LiberalArkie]

Updated: Nov. 15, 2024, 4:32 p.m

There are five key areas that authoritarians want to control when they attempt to decapitate a democratic state, authoritarian expert and author Timothy Snyder writes: health, law, administration, defense and intelligence.

And in each of these arenas, the goal is to consolidate power, create chaos — and yes, even death. Authoritarians with power over these areas, Snyder says, “can make America impossible to sustain.”

In each instance, deaths are possible. And it’s not far-fetched to say that’s president-elect Donald Trump’s goal. Here’s Snyder’s reasoning:

Health

“The foundation of modern democratic state is a healthy, long-lived population,” Snyder writes in his latest newsletter. “We lived longer in the twentieth century because of hygiene and vaccinations, pioneered by scientists and physicians and then institutionalized by governments. We treat one another better when we know we have longer lives to lose.”

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https://www.nj.com/politics/2024/11/is-trump-trying-to-kill-us-authoritarian-expert-says-yes.html

[BoRaGard]

1. The republican/russian attack on America and free will

Sucks. Enormously.

[ancianita]

4. But Americans have the free will to choose to fight Russia on all levels.

[LiberalArkie]

7. They chose on November 5, 2024

[ancianita]

11. That 22% might have gotten tsf into the WH, but they don't represent the 78% of America.

Putin's henchmen have attacked America through that 22%. The rest of us don't have to fall for it.

We're really up against the domestic terrorism of the Heritage Henchmen + Federalists + trump's cabinet.
It's within our free will capacity to fight them.

[Pinback]

14. Correct. Do not obey in advance. (nt)

[Magoo48]

33. I would suggest that your average run of the mill republican

has absolutely no clue what they have chosen , and until the consequences hit them, they’ll remain clueless.

[KS Toronado]

18. For Americans to have the free will to fight Russia on all levels,

it sure helps when our President isn't on Putin's payroll and our foreign allies know it.

[ancianita]

35. Agree.

Of course it would help but we're in the trumputin zone now. And even if this Putin tool is in the WH, the DoD, 3-letter agencies, district & appellate courts, and Democrats of Congress will show our allies the fight that is in the 78%.

[ariadne0614]

2. Malcolm Nance wrote a book on this subject.

It was published two years ago.
https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250279002/theywanttokillamericans

[Freddie]

3. They definitely want women to die

[rainin]

8. not all women. just those who have outlived their usefulness

[Farmer-Rick]

15. Well, that means

All women in their 50s should be done away with because they can't have babies anymore.

And to MAGAts that means they are useless.

Why is that Slovanian sex worker, Melania, still around when she's over 54 years old? And she only had one kid. She really is useless.

I wonder what horrors she's going to give us for Next Christmas? And what beauty in the White House will she turn into hotel or airport decore?

[orangecrush]

5. It's not a question.

[LiberalArkie]

6. And if a person was to look at the cost / benefit of this, what country would benefit the most?

Definitely not China.. It would only be the Khrushchev inspired Soviet Union.

Here are some quotes by Nikita Khrushchev:
"We say the name of God, but that is only habit."
"The press is our chief ideological weapon."
"Support by United States rulers is rather in the nature of the support that the rope gives to a hanged man."
"What the scientists have in their briefcases is terrifying."
"You Americans are so gullible."
"We do not have to invade the United States, we will destroy you from within."
"The United States will eventually fly the Communist red flag…The American people will hoist it themselves."
"The John Birch Society is Communism's greatest ally. With its help we will divide and confuse the American people until they have lost faith in their Government, their nation has ceased to be a major world power, and their country is ripe for revolution."
"Democracy is a government where you can say what you think even if you don't think. Politicians are the same all over. They promise to build a bridge where there is no river."

[bdamomma]

10. this quote

"The United States will eventually fly the Communist red flag…The American people will hoist it themselves."

How long will it be before we see Putin be received in the USA with open arms????

or should we be thinking of this

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

Thomas Jefferson

[Farmer-Rick]

20. I'm expecting him to send American

Troops to Eurasia to fight Putin's wars. Putin is good at intelligence (and sucking up almost all of Russia's resources) but he's shit about supporting his military. He's running out of willing bodies to throw at his wars.

But there are plenty of idiot men in America who voted for the Putin/Trump ticket. They'll get a chance to fight for their master for little to no pay soon. It may just turn into another draft. Let's see how deep Putin's claws sink into Trump's butt.

[LiberalArkie]

29. " but he's shit about supporting his military", that is the problem with all oligarchs. All the ones down from the top

each take a piece of the pie for themselves and send reports back that all the trucks and missiles and warheads have all been maintained and serviced. A lot of the "Generals" incharge of buying tires spent the money instead on their dachas.

[FakeNoose]

21. Sorry, I'm not buying any of that

Khrushchev is long gone... and there is no communism left in the former Soviet Union. Even THEY don't believe that old nonsense any more. Maybe Putin is a greedy pig who wants to die with all the marbles. I don't know. But his motive isn't to spread communism around the planet.

[bdamomma]

23. But Putin

is doing quite a number of erasing Democracy in other countries. ours is added to his accomplishments.

[Farmer-Rick]

28. Yeah, Russia never got to communism

Communism is about sharing all the resources with everyone. Russia never did that. It may have been a type of socialism because the means of production were Not in the hands of the filthy-rich. But it was in the hands of a corrupt government. Much like China.

[LiberalArkie]

30. Khrushchevs "Communism" as most of us know now was just another term for Oligarchy.

[Clouds Passing]

26. That traitorous kock family. The founder of jbs was fred himself, bffs with stalin.

[Pacifist Patriot]

9. I have been saying this for decades now. We have been in a resource war with the 1% whether we realize it/like it or not

The "conservative agenda" has been about culling the herd for quite some time. The few policies they do propose, harm people. Otherwise, they are in full-on oppositional mode obstructing policies that help people - or tearing down the people trying to lead in a positive direction.

A Republican (fascist authoritarian) stranglehold on the three branches of government now looks like this.

Executive Branch: Dismantle (destroy) the government and empty the coffers.
Legislative Branch: Strip away rights (especially women, LGBTQ+, and voting) so the electorate has little power (or energy) left.
Judicial Branch: Provide cover to enable the executive and legislative branch to do the above.

The good news is that historically, this hasn't been successful. The bad news is that it has taken bloody revolutions and world wars.

Yeah, I guess I'm in a foul pessimistic mood this morning.

[Clouds Passing]

32. You are correct.

As I’ve been saying for a long time, we are all born on this earth equally, we are all deserving of the resources of this earth equally. Not one human deserves more resources than any other human.

Too many of the 1% believe they are deserving of all the resources of the earth. Sharing is not a part of their emotional makeup. The only thing they understand is take, take, take. They have no concept of give, give, give. They will not share the earth with us. They falsely believe that the rest of us 99% are the ones ruining this earth. They falsely believe that they are the saviors of this earth.

On the Georgia Guidestones their goals are written.

[bmichaelh]

12. Question that MSM will not ask

Does Trump understand the complexity of healthcare in this country?

Or he understands but he gets a sociopathic rush when his policies kills Americans?

Or a combination of both?

[Farmer-Rick]

25. He doesn't understand crap

He's got dementia and can't remember where he is or who people are. He can hardly talk in full sentences anymore. He tilts when he walks and he needs 2 hands to drink from a cup like a baby. He's being propped up by Vance, the other Nazis around him and drugs.

But yeah, he's also a malicious narcissist who loves to see people suffer. So, yeah, it's a win win for him when he destroys our already broken healthcare system that he doesn't understand.

[niyad]

13. Of course he is.

[oldmanlynn]

16. Meanwhile on MSM they are saying

But the Dems caused high egg prices. So both sides are screwing it up.


I only hope that when Trump does all the things that he does that the people in the country will finally see it and wake up and that we will still have a chance for a free and fair election. Those are my two worries, along with my retirement, not tanking, which I’m concerned about.

[Deep State Witch]

37. Bird Flu

Caused high egg prices. The MSM did a bad job of communicating that.

[liberalgunwilltravel]

17. We'll know when

We’ll know for sure when they make the announcement that they are restricting personal firearm ownership.

[k55f5r]

34. It'll be a knock at the door.

Plan now.

[bronxiteforever]

19. The GOP Oligarchs have all of us on the menu.n/t

[PortTack]

22. George Conway says his MO is to destroy stuff it's who he is.

[Kid Berwyn]

24. Consider ourselves the price of progress.

Prof. Snyder is spot-on.

[Beck23]

27. I don't know if this is related, but maybe

Some information about Trump's choice for Commerce Secretary. He loves the golden age around the turn of the century. That's the early 1900s. That's the age of the robber barons.

[LiberalArkie]

38. The start of the blossoming of the American oligarch class.

Really kicked in gear with Reagan’s “create the oligarch” tax cuts

[dalton99a]

31. The traitor loves to kill Americans

[Deep State Witch]

36. Yes

- By dismantling the ACA, Medicare, and Medicaid, many who depend on those insurance plans will lose their lifeline. I know a couple people who will die if they don't have the ACA for health insurance.

- By "pausing" research on medications, this will essentially stop the process for approving new drugs. There is one promising ALS medication in the approval pipeline that could potentially save a lot of lives. If they shut the process down, people with ALS will die. Same with cancer.

[angrychair]

39. Do you all hear yourselves?

It's going to be horrible for sure but the majority of the country did not vote for this. Not even close.

While it is a two-edged sword, the incompetence and backbiting appears greater now than in the first term. The people he is naming are not the best and brightest. They are largely selfish, incompetent and feckless. At least half of them won't last two years in their positions.

I promise if we can make it through the first two years we can get back control of both the House and Senate and drowned them in so many hearings and legal delays that it will make the last two years of his term a little easier.

We can do this. Let's not give in to cynicism or become jaded to what is still positive and good in the world.