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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRight now, I cannot feel sorry for those who voted Trump and are now fearful
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I just can't... Do they have a right to feel scared.. You better believe it, and I am sure at some point I will start to shake this loss off.. but at this point in time in the middle of November 2024.. not too much sympathy to their fears.. What the heck did they think was going to happen??
Aviation Pro
(13,449 posts)It's appropriated from the vast majority of dumbasses who voted for Motherfucker. As long as other people suffer along with them they do not give a flying fuck.
littlemissmartypants
(25,483 posts)What does it say?
ShazzieB
(18,641 posts)COL Mustard
(6,883 posts)Walleye
(35,655 posts)claudette
(4,484 posts)I cant even feel sorry for the women who may suffer or die because of Dumpys coming abortion ban. Those women who voted for him dont deserve sympathy.
Walleye
(35,655 posts)So I just want to tell them, dont come crying us.
Its starting look like we baby boomers are finally gonna get that World War III with Russia, been hanging over our heads our whole lives. Danger is always lurking. Just when you think you got something beat it comes back.
claudette
(4,484 posts)But I heard if Democracy Forward onJon Fugelwang and I still have some hope that America will be saved.
https://democracyforward.org/updates/280-organization-coalition-launches-multimillion-dollar-legal-effort-to-combat-threats-to-people-democracy-expected-in-trump-vance-administration/
lark
(24,149 posts)No feeling sorry for any magat - get pregnant and die - that's what you fucking voted for. Sending $$ to Russia and getting out of NATO, that's what they voted for. Having no healthcare and no free education - they voted for that! However, almost every Democrat is being hurt by these asses and what they enabled so it's still not even one bit fair.
I hope every Latino who voted for him have their relatives deported and even themselves - because you know they will be deporting citizena as well, because there will be no one to stop them.
What I hate is how much good people are going to be hurt by what the stupidest fuckers among us wrought~ That I hate the worst!!!
DeeDeeNY
(3,491 posts)hlthe2b
(106,326 posts)I'm having trouble moving past the abject contempt...
sigh...
City Lights
(25,298 posts)And I don't see myself ever mustering up any empathy for them. I resent them too much for dragging the rest of us down into their sewer.
joshcryer
(62,490 posts)Oh please, poor, poor souls. Please. Cut it all. Destroy it.
I'm done giving a shit. I have survived worse.
Moostache
(10,161 posts)FAFO is in full effect until 2027 now. I have no sympathy left for any Trump voter harmed - because all of my empathy and charity will be 100% directed to his opponents and voters who chose to oppose him (and REMAIN opposed) regardless of potential personal costs...
I hope Joe and Mika both get very sick and learn first hand why their plight is NOTHING compared to anyone that loses insurance access and suffers ANYTHING like what I hope and pray befalls them both, in sequence and drawn out excruciatingly long to maximize the suffering experienced.
yankee87
(2,339 posts)The dictator to be said what he was going to do. We're going to have troops in Blue state streets, or Blue areas in red states. In my youth, had some friends who helped Irish "illegals" get jobs in construction and hospitality mostly in Hamptons area. Now, MAGA morons.
I still can't believe we voted in a guy giving a blow job.
Dulcinea
(7,465 posts)But I plan to channel that emotion into working towards a blue wave in 2 years. Once McFelon proves his ineptitude again, and the price of gas & groceries doesn't plummet fast enough for them, people will be ready for change.
SoFlaBro
(3,347 posts)bronxiteforever
(9,401 posts)claudette
(4,484 posts)for anyone who voted for the orange felon. They deserve all the suffering they get for giving him the WH
TheProle
(2,960 posts)that will not equally impact every Harris voter, non-voter and child in this country.
We're 2 weeks past the election now and people need to get back to their goddamn senses.
Your paperclip or blue bracelet won't save you any more than it will a misguided minority Trump voter.
Trueblue Texan
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These items are not a cross representing salvation. They are symbols of solidarity and I am disgusted that people have made an issue of them. Americans have every right to demonstrate solidarity with whatever group they identify with, ESPECIALLY those Americans who have worked their ENTIRE adult lives to fight for the principles that group represents.
TheProle
(2,960 posts)Trump's assault on America will spare no one, even if you signal your bona fides, so Democrats need to quit wishing ill on others while deluding themselves that it won't blow back on them as well.
Scrivener7
(52,724 posts)You seem offended that some of us aren't wasting sympathy on those who put us in this position.
You must know something we don't know. So what is it that you are doing that makes you so much more "goddamn sensible" than the rest of us?
Other than making fun of things other Democrats are doing to try to cope a little, of course?
TheProle
(2,960 posts)We dont beat them by becoming them.
I wont belabor the point further, but if mainstream Democrats are still in this mindset come midterms, the nightmare will only be prolonged.
Scrivener7
(52,724 posts)dpibel
(3,318 posts)You agree that we are about to experience "Trump's assault on America."
And the OP agrees with you.
What in the OP can you possibly read as "deluding themselves that it won't blow back on them as well"?
It's not there.
Saying, "I have no sympathy for these people" is an entirely different thing than saying, "They're going to get it, but not me."
Or, to put it simply: You seem to be having a problem with a straw OP.
TheProle
(2,960 posts)Trueblue Texan
(2,922 posts)And I am not offended merely by the post above. In case you weren't aware, there is a huge backlash against blue bracelets, as though a symbol of any kind is now offensive. I think it is ridiculous and insulting that the arguments imply those who wear bracelets are now and have been unwilling to put forth any other effort. Your response doesn't seem to address my comment on blue bracelets.
Callie1979
(15 posts)Scrivener7
(52,724 posts)Apparently some Democratic people in red states are wearing blue bracelets to identify themselves to each other.
Magats are denigrating it.
I guess their feelings are hurt.
I have no idea what the paperclip is about. And a google search shows nothing.
cbabe
(4,155 posts)The first mass outbreak of civil disobedience occurred in the autumn of 1940, when students of Oslo University began to wear paper clips on their lapels to demonstrate their resistance to the German occupiers and their Norwegian collaborators. A seemingly innocuous item, the paper clip was a symbol of solidarity and unity ("we are bound together" , implying resistance. The wearing of paper clips, the popular H7 monogram and similar symbols (red garments, Bobble hats) was outlawed and could lead to arrest and punishment.
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Scrivener7
(52,724 posts)Ligyron
(7,890 posts)I've been wondering what I was missing with the paperclip but was too shy in asking. Like I was supposed to know that for some reason. I mean, the blue bracelet is obvious and would be to a MAGA goon too.
cbabe
(4,155 posts)Trueblue Texan
(2,922 posts)...There are a lot of folks in progressive circles who have picked up the argument. I think it's a propaganda ploy to divide us and it's discouraging to see progressives jump on that bandwagon.
Scrivener7
(52,724 posts)But I live in a blue area. If I were in a Magatville, I would be very grateful for some sign that would show me who was NOT gunning for my uterus, and for my Black and gay and trans friends and family.
TheKentuckian
(26,181 posts)so they will have that and more.
I hope Kushner names the first hotel the Nakba Arms.
Skittles
(159,240 posts)WTF
LuvLoogie
(7,542 posts)We voted for the benefit of all and against the bigotry and grift. His voters unleashed his bigoted malevolence. THEY will be caught up in it, despite their thinking they're exempt. For THAT they get no sympathy. Quit gas lighting.
Bettie
(17,062 posts)they voted for him because they wanted to see others hurting or worse. They voted based on hate and bigotry.
So, when the leopards eat their faces, I don't really care, they voted for it, they literally voted for it.
Ilikepurple
(100 posts)Yes, everybody is going to feel the effects. Yes, no magic protective properties have been claimed by either paper clip or blue bracelet. Neither are related to OP nor what you believe our needs are. Theres a segment of this board that cant make a point without dictating behavior or thought, generally in a manner a husband might his wife in a black and white movie. I dont think my goddamn senses are going to save me any more than those bracelets.
TheProle
(2,960 posts)Please feel free to be as vindictive as you like. Im sure it will serve the Greater Good.
littlemissmartypants
(25,483 posts)Ilikepurple
(100 posts)Or that their thoughts were devoid of common sense. You could have responded in the space of reasons, but instead said no Im didnt and impugned my motive. There was nothing vindictive in my response nor was there any hint that I agree with vindictive behavior. Why call me vindictive and add the sarcasm? We discuss things here and unreasoned attempts to stop discussion draw my attention. If you seek unity and empathy for the sake of the Party or have some other ideal the OP runs against, maybe say what it is. We're 2 weeks past the election now and people need to get back to their goddamn senses. Its really not how people generally speak to perceived equals. You are a productive and informative member of this group I look forward to seeing more of your posts. I just didnt like this ones tone and chose to say something.
Bettie
(17,062 posts)won't make us safe from it. We know that nothing is likely to save us.
They chose this for us, thinking that somehow, they would not be impacted.
They want us harmed. They actively wish us harm. They want minorities rounded up and sent...somewhere.
Why should we have sympathy for them? I see no reason.
Mountain Mule
(1,031 posts)They knew exactly what they voted for. They voted to kill me and millions of other Americans by repealing the ACA and Medicaid. They voted to render the Federal government completely ineffective thanks to the tactics of shitstain and his co-president Elon. Why should I feel sympathetic toward murderers and those who prefer chaos over democracy. I hope the price of eggs raises so far that a scrambled egg becomes equivalent to the price of prime rib and lobster. I'll happily eat gruel just to watch them suffer.
Callie1979
(15 posts)Crunchy Frog
(26,973 posts)Leopards eating the faces of people who voted for the Leopards Eating People's Faces party.
Marigold
(193 posts)Just sayin.........
GB_RN
(3,154 posts)A long, long time ago.
I have to bite my tongue when I go to a patients room and theyve got goddamned Rupert Murdochs Fox Propaganda on. I wish the hospital would block that shit.
Skittles
(159,240 posts)they have UTTERLY DISGRACED AMERICA
WE ARE A FUCKING JOKE NOW
DeeDeeNY
(3,491 posts)I doubt they thought it through any further than that.
Skittles
(159,240 posts)a LOT of things are too expensive
problem is, repukes DO NOT FUCKING CARE and will not do ANYTHING to help them
wryter2000
(47,431 posts)A disease killed a lot of chickens.
yardwork
(64,318 posts)They don't believe in pandemics or climate change or women dying in childbirth. They don't believe in disabilities. They don't believe that brave people get killed or injured in war. They make fun of all these things and call it "woke."
Republicans live in a world of magical thinking, where Democrats make up problems. Without Democrats, Republicans believe all these problems will magically disappear.
They're toddlers.
La Coliniere
(848 posts)their health care and their insurance companies kick them off their policies for preexisting conditions I will not care at all. Its so unfortunate and cruel that we will be suffering along with them when the ax falls. With health care in this country its always one step forward, but now its 3 steps backwards and off the friggin cliff!
Demobrat
(9,789 posts)Granted, I dont have a lot of contact with MAGAts. All I know is what little I see online.
But all I do see is anticipatory glee over deportations and insistence that foreign countries pay tariffs.
Theyre not scared yet.
paleotn
(19,177 posts)Americans are such idiots.
Mariana
(15,093 posts)I've seen some stories where they quote a few people. I don't see any indication that a significant number of Trump voters regret their votes.
prodigitalson
(2,884 posts)Maru Kitteh
(29,085 posts)might not have their best interests at heart after all.
*MALE leaders
Mariana
(15,093 posts)Or are the stories about just a few outliers?
Solomon
(12,470 posts)Nothing has happened to them yet.
Mariana
(15,093 posts)about how the white Evangelical Christians were turning away from Trump. That didn't happen, either.
prodigitalson
(2,884 posts)paleotn
(19,177 posts)It's the mushy middle that did. The people who don't pay attention much to politics. People in NC who thought Robinson was too crazy, voted for Stein, but also voted for Trump for amorphous reasons they can't rationally express. AOC voters in her district that also voted for Trump. Low info voters not in the cult. Seems they're about 1/3 of the electorate and they just didn't like what we had to sell. Same as people buying Chevys back in the day we they know damn well that Honda Accords are vastly superior. People are weird.
Mariana
(15,093 posts)Maybe they will, eventually. Maybe not. To have voted for him at all means they must have been in some kind of echo chamber, whether it was cable TV "news" or RW radio or their churches or their friend groups or whatever. Are they likely to get out of those echo chambers?
paleotn
(19,177 posts)To be honest, we can also be accused of living in an echo chamber of sorts. We also, sometimes, think the world thinks exactly like us or what we perceive. Same for the cult. It doesn't. Human nature to do so and grossly inaccurate. Why did the middle vote like they did? That will be the subject of volumes for years to come. But it's not because they're all racist and fascist. Dumb and uninformed, maybe. Amurkins are well known for that.
One of my personal culprits is Merrick Garland. Perhaps the most inept AG in American history. He let this shit stew. He let the propaganda machine run and run when he had more than enough reason to investigate, charge and prosecute starting from the time he took office. He did nothing until it was too late. We should have been talking about Jack Smith in 2021.
paleotn
(19,177 posts)Sorry, character flaw I suppose, but I cannot let shit like this slide. Fuck 'em. They deserve all the pain they get.
markodochartaigh
(2,056 posts)I feel sorry for people who have lung cancer, whether they got it from smoking or from radon in the ground around their home.
I feel sorry for people with half of their face shot off, whether they botched their suicide attempt or whether they were assaulted.
I feel sorry for people paralyzed from the neck down, whether it is because they were driving drunk and had a car wreck, or whether they fell off a scaffold at work.
And when I see someone whose significant other is being deported, or who is homeless because they lost their Social Security, or jobless because the economy was sucked dry by hedge funds and vulture capitalists, I will feel compassion for them.
But there are people whom you can help and people upon whom help is wasted. I can feel empathy for someone's situation even while knowing that there is nothing that I can do for them,except thoughts and prayers, of course.
Maru Kitteh
(29,085 posts)Are you still in bedside? How have you survived?
markodochartaigh
(2,056 posts)I always did bedside, or staff nurse level, nursing. I have Asperger's so management was definitely not an option.
It was mentally, physically, and emotionally exhausting. I worked in a very large (more than 1,000 beds) public hospital. Much of the time I would change units every year or two. I did about five years in the float pool (which really hurt my pension, because the float pool weren't covered by the pension). Also the hospital took over the care of the inmates in the county jail (6,000 inmates) and I did triage for people being booked into the jail for about seven years.
I think that moving between areas was a big help in maintaining my sanity. Also, being gay and with Asperger's and being raised in Amarillo Texas a half century ago, I was used to being bullied absolutely every day with absolutely no support from the school staff. I think the fact that I expected no support from management and expected to always be considered in the wrong helped me a great deal in nursing. I realized that conflicts were not about right or wrong, but were about the people involved, and that as a staff nurse, I was automatically in the wrong. Knowing that I was always in the wrong freed me to do the best that I could and not care what others were going to say. It may seem perverse, but I think that most bedside nurses will understand.
I would also offer a bit of advice. When you finally get to retirement, work at least a couple of days a month. It is extremely difficult to get a nursing job when you are old and have no recent clinical experience and a bit of extra income would come in handy.
I wish you the best.
Hassler
(3,676 posts)Pas-de-Calais
(9,993 posts)Meowmee
(5,467 posts)To feel for them? Im worried about myself and my family and those who didnt vote for that murderer. Those who voted for this caused this and need to have their heads examined. Theres no doubt about that. Maybe some of them should have their voting rights taken away for good as they obviously dont have the ability for thinking logically about what would happen.
I do hope that the worst things that could happen will not happen and the first concern of mine is a collapse of the economy. There are so many other concerns I cant list them all here, but that is number one.
JoeBydun
(33 posts)This is what they voted for. They were warned but still voted in the orange menace. I unironically hopes he passes all his policies so they can see the full scale of the demon they voted in. It seems they need to learn the hard way!
Bird Lady
(1,913 posts)because they don't know how to think. They are going to think about it once the camps open and they are hauled in by the truck load. He is going to make them hurt and hurt bad. Then they will cry and blame it all on the democrats and Joe Biden.
I will gather their tears in a fancy glass and drink them with glee. Schadenfreude
Dem4life1970
(426 posts)...we should stop trying to rescue people from their consequences (votes). They want to burn the country down, go for it. Let's see how you govern.
Give Trump no credit for anything. Think about it. He won by lying about everything. He lied about the economy and the right wing propaganda machine echoed his lies. He lied about everything, so let's give him zero credit for anything. Highlight the wrong, and if you can't do what he did, just don't say anything about anything good that he does.
SkylineChili
(35 posts)Zero Fucks to Give. I know we will all suffer with Trump and his minions in power, but I will not waste a single breath feeling sorry for anyone who voted for him who is deported, marginalized, financially compromised, dies, etc. Zero fucks to give for them. Abuela is deported? so sorry. Arab family rounded up? too bad, so sad. Maga daughter bleeding out from an incomplete miscarriage? Oooo, that's tragic. My sympathy will be with those who voted blue and got caught up in the madness despite their best efforts.
Henry203
(53 posts)and abortion rights see them disappear when they enact a nationwide ban. I bet most dont know federal law eliminates the state law.
Rebl2
(14,676 posts)They should have known if they had studied how he has acted in the past.
getagrip_already
(17,430 posts)I have more important things to put my energy into.
I have sympathy for lots of people. I have sympathy for the poor rusdian bastatds who are pushed onto meat wave attacks against ukraine - they dont stand a chance. I just dont have any fuchs left to give.
I have sympathy for immigrants who work hard, live lawfully, and just want to raise their families in peace. I have far less when they turn around and vote to take rights they enjoy away from those that would follow behind them. People just like them in every way imaginable, except they arent yet citizens.
So i will put my energy where it can do some good. Others can fend any way they can.
GoCubsGo
(33,005 posts)Bed. Made. Lie.
Bread and Circuses
(165 posts)I do intentions of loving kindness and send these vibrations to all
.and ask that those who are fearful or angry open their hearts to receive love and compassion.
Its what I do. Its who I am and its why I am.
Years ago, I learned that I am one who carried the oil for the lamp.
It is difficult, the road hard and my body is weary and sustenance does not always sustain me through the light-less times. But here I am, I keep gathering myself. Touching my sacredness and breathe into my humanity.
I do not surrender.
In Beauty I Walk, All Day Long!
Cha
(305,385 posts)Our Democracy
🕯️🕊️💙🇺🇸
prodigitalson
(2,884 posts)they're all downright giddy around here.
one did say she didn't want flouride taken out of the water, but otherwise she's giddy as the rest...'god answered our prayers' they say
Boomerproud
(8,406 posts)But it's going to change, and fast.
prodigitalson
(2,884 posts)Mariana
(15,093 posts)Everything bad that happens is always someone else's fault, or it's fake news, or whatever. They have never blamed him for anything. Why do you think they're suddenly going to start now? It's a freaking cult.
Abolishinist
(1,961 posts)but my guess it's just like you stated. They're too ignorant/uninformed to have any fears, especially this early on.
Cha
(305,385 posts)Their best interests and then sorry after handing over our Country to fucking DICTATORS Get NOTHING
sakabatou
(43,041 posts)Demsrule86
(71,021 posts)liberal N proud
(60,944 posts)nycbos
(6,345 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(10,513 posts)to fuck everything up.
Horse with no Name
(34,051 posts)I intend to rub their noses in it every chance I get
ChazInAz
(2,778 posts)They were bad "winners" in 2016.
Terrible lovers in 2020.
Gloating, vicious shitheads in 2024.
So no...no sympathy.
Faygo Kid
(21,484 posts)They own this.
quaker bill
(8,233 posts)people make stupid decisions all the time and suffer consequences. The suffering is not less because they stupidly chose a wrong path. One can resent having to share in it, but that will not make it better for anyone.
BTW, prices are already going up in anticipation of the coming tariffs. In short, businesses charge to recover the price of replacing inventory. When they know the cost to replace inventory is going up or expect it to go up, they charge whatever they need to replace it. So prices are already going up.
Martin Eden
(13,457 posts)The sooner they feel pain they recognize is a consequence of their vote, the more likely Democrats can retake the House and/or Senate in 2024.
Assuming a legitimate election will still be possible.
Diamond_Dog
(34,612 posts)HereForTheParty
(109 posts)and with good reason.
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kimbutgar
(23,254 posts)Because some of those crazies in the repuke party want to do away with no fault divorces.
SpankMe
(3,242 posts)I know of none, so far, who are fearful or who regret their vote based on newly emerging information. Most are doubling down on what's going on and making excuses for the cabinet picks. We are in a new era of Nazism.
wryter2000
(47,431 posts)They will blame Democrats.
wryter2000
(47,431 posts)Once or twice they might have been fooled by Trump's lies. Not three times
Abolishinist
(1,961 posts)Martin68
(24,597 posts)They got what they wanted, and Fox News et al will blame any setbacks on Democrats, gays, women, minorities, immigrants, etc.
CrispyQ
(38,238 posts)There was a 90s bumper sticker that came out after the Reagan years, IF YOU THINK EDUCATION IS EXPENSIVE, TRY IGNORANCE. The right has been focused on boards of education across the country since the 80s. ALL POLITICS IS LOCAL. That's a bumper sticker our side should have paid more attention to.
slightlv
(4,325 posts)as their pocketbooks are robbed, as well as their healthcare, etc., I'm STILL not going to feel sorry for them. They did it simply to "own the libs"... what a stupid foundation upon which to cast your damned vote! Except that everyone else who *didn't* vote for him is going to be feeling the same pain, I'd be laughing hysterically at them. Period.
NoSheep
(8,274 posts)agingdem
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and to be honest I am tired of carrying the burden of the idiots too stupid to set aside their personal biases and vote for the greater good... as Democrats we tend to think because the demographic is multicultural/multi-ethnic/inclusive we are without hate...but that's not true...within our collective "kumbaya" there is racism/antisemitism,/misogyny/anti-gay bigotry....and after almost seven decades of marching/donating/knocking on doors I'm done...
I'm now a lawn chair observer of the coming Trump train wreck...when Latino Trump voters are begging someone to stop the round up and deportation of family members don't look to me for help...when middle class Trump voting women and their young daughters have to carry and give birth to their rapists babies don't look at me for help...when polio/diphtheria/mumps/measles/small pox stampede thru classrooms don't look to me for help...buyers remorse is a bitch...
sarge43
(29,155 posts)Initech
(101,900 posts)soldierant
(7,892 posts)Your mistake there is the assumption that they think.
DENVERPOPS
(9,949 posts)they need a brain to think.......I wonder what they will "THINK" when they realize that by voting THIS time around, they have outgrown their usefulness an will be thrown under the bus like they have done to all us in opposition years ago....
Hey........They grew it, they can chew it.......
liberalla
(10,015 posts)non-thinking turnips. Amidst my own anxiety and stress I will admit to experiencing a bit of pleasure at their current fear, just because they ignored so much to vote for him... and brought it on themselves.
... and of course, US too!
Charmin One
(182 posts)That might be an all time high. Most Trump voters are unaware of the damage he will do
NameAlreadyTaken
(1,511 posts)but I have absolutely ZERO sympathy for Trump voters who will be hurt by Trump. Either they knew exactly what they were voting for and still voted for it, or else they didn't know what they were voting for - and that's their own fault. Zero sympathy whatsoever for those poor fools.
Montauk6
(8,614 posts)Aussie105
(6,254 posts)Those who voted for it and thought it would bring them happiness and joy, and the untold riches of the land, will face it and be burnt by it.
Those who fear its harm will seek shelter and be saved.
In short, let them carry on in their delusional state. But protect yourself!
How to protect yourself?
Stock up of non perishables, look closer to home for safety and security, get off the propaganda machines like most social media, all mainstream media, and give Republicans a metaphorical middle finger when you come across them.
Do not engage with them, whoever they are, do not try reason and logic, they are beyond that.
Look not at the past, have no regrets, what is done is done, only the future has hope.
And that hope is something you have to build for yourself, inside you, so not look for it in the world around you. It cannot be found there.
My hopeful thought for today:
Trump is old, has a long history of unhealthy eating and supposed drug taking.
Soon he will cease to be a viable living entity.
And then his followers will be in disarray, left without their cult leader.
They have no one with the inclination or skills to take over the Presidency. Only followers.
(Imagine if Hitler had died years before his own personal Final Solution.)
dawn5651
(653 posts)what is going to be in place in washington. my heart goes out to those who didn't vote for this they are going to
feel the pain of what the orange asshole is doing and is going to do.