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Scubamatt

(81 posts)
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 10:20 AM Tuesday

Whereabouts of Democratic Leadership?

Can anyone share any details as to what Biden, Harris and other Democratic leaders - who still hold the reigns of power - are doing in the wake of the disaster? I feel like they've all gone radio silent and are doing nothing to try to insulate the institutions of our government from the coming storm. I understand - and am not advocating - the same type of Jan 6 mentality that drove the brown shirts back in 2020 - but given what Trump plans, I can't believe our leaders are treating this like a normal transition of power. What the $%$#$ is going on?

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Whereabouts of Democratic Leadership? (Original Post) Scubamatt Tuesday OP
Senate Majority Leader Schumer just yesterday Sympthsical Tuesday #1
I believe there are 28 judges to confirm gab13by13 Tuesday #5
That's what Schumer says they will be doing Sympthsical Tuesday #6
Well at least that's something. BlueKota Tuesday #9
The media are hyper-fixated on Trump crazy at the moment Sympthsical Tuesday #15
THX! Scubamatt Tuesday #10
Strategizing should be done in 'secret' Blappy Tuesday #2
I agree generally Scubamatt Tuesday #11
Just posted literally one minute ago awesomerwb1 Tuesday #3
Yep - the premature surrender and the failure of the doj under Biden are the worst parts. polichick Tuesday #4
People who have a lot to lose and who are "too far up to fall" in our society - there isn't much anyone wouldn't do John Shaft Tuesday #7
It seems it's this way everytime after losing elections. Intractable Tuesday #8
Let me be clear Scubamatt Tuesday #13
You are clear! Intractable Tuesday #19
'throwing out the norms' stopdiggin Tuesday #20
"Being gracious" in the face of tyranny is impossible. intheflow Tuesday #25
Well, Biden is busy giving Ukraine the ability MineralMan Tuesday #12
Post removed Post removed Tuesday #16
Just go ahead and blame Democrats for the loss of the election. MineralMan Tuesday #18
Those missiles can't do much good, if they keep being shot down. Omnipresent Tuesday #29
I want to believe that... S/V Loner Tuesday #14
I've been wondering the same thing Genevra Tuesday #17
They seem to have gone extinct dalton99a Tuesday #21
I got a million emails from Democrats asking for donations... SnoopDog Tuesday #22
Don't necessarily agree Scubamatt Tuesday #23
Our leadership should be working on plans to solve that problem oldmanlynn Tuesday #27
President Clinton signed the Telecommunications Act... SnoopDog Tuesday #28
Thats the only message you will get from Dems oldmanlynn Tuesday #26
According to my text messages, they are all begging for money still. beaglelover Tuesday #24
Same. BlueKota Tuesday #30

Sympthsical

(10,221 posts)
1. Senate Majority Leader Schumer just yesterday
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 10:23 AM
Tuesday

"The Senate is going to keep prioritizing judicial and administrative confirmations this week, this month, and for the rest of the year."

BlueKota

(3,643 posts)
9. Well at least that's something.
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 10:39 AM
Tuesday

I am not very impressed with the lack of communication from the majority of our side's elected officials in D.C. We need some form of reassurance that those of us who are not invested in the orange savior, will still have leaders working to protect us from at least some of the fallout, even if they cannot prevent all of it.

In my view it's still their job. I am proud of the Democratic Governors who promise to strengthen blue state protections, but they can't do it alone.

Sympthsical

(10,221 posts)
15. The media are hyper-fixated on Trump crazy at the moment
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 10:57 AM
Tuesday

So something like a Senate floor speech laying out policy plans isn't really going to get a lot of oxygen right now.

Just the media world we live in, unfortunately.

Blappy

(109 posts)
2. Strategizing should be done in 'secret'
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 10:23 AM
Tuesday

because you know the fascists would use any 'intelligence' about the Dem's plans in a truly ratfucking way

Scubamatt

(81 posts)
11. I agree generally
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 10:43 AM
Tuesday

But our leaders just do seem to understand how to get the rank and file engaged. They could/should be sending out talking points around which we can rally and energize. We could learn a lot from the 'Cons in this specific regard . . . .

awesomerwb1

(4,563 posts)
3. Just posted literally one minute ago
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 10:24 AM
Tuesday

on another thread that it was time for leaders to lead (and new ones to emerge) and so far *crickets*

For me personally, it's very disappointing.

John Shaft

(750 posts)
7. People who have a lot to lose and who are "too far up to fall" in our society - there isn't much anyone wouldn't do
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 10:31 AM
Tuesday

to protect their wealth and privilege (and privileges).

People who have money will never give the Great Vulgar (us plebes) the means to usurp the power of the wealthy.

Some of us have known this all along.

Intractable

(541 posts)
8. It seems it's this way everytime after losing elections.
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 10:38 AM
Tuesday

It does seem kind of quiet from command central. But I expected it -- being gracious, not loud when defeated.

Scubamatt

(81 posts)
13. Let me be clear
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 10:49 AM
Tuesday

I am not advocating anything like what happened on 1/6. But the fact that are leaders appear to be meekly accepting what happened significantly undercuts/undermines what they were saying before the election about Trump's threat to Democracy. To that "majority" of America, it looks like it was just a campaign tactic, rather than a real warning. Yeah, we "lost", but isn't the message even more important now? Trump has never once been penalized for throwing out the norms - this Country appears to love that. How about we throw out the norm of meekly accepting the election and going silent and start telegraphing how we are going to fight to preserve our Republic?

Intractable

(541 posts)
19. You are clear!
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 11:20 AM
Tuesday

I think our leaders are relying on us, the so-called grass roots (grunts, pawns, worker bees) to do that work.

Leaders who speak up now will get a leg-up on the next elections! C'mon, who wants to be the next president?

stopdiggin

(12,817 posts)
20. 'throwing out the norms'
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 11:30 AM
Tuesday

What does that mean - to your own mind? Specifics please. Otherwise you're just mouthing tired mantras and waving more pom-poms. (and we have plenty of that, thanks!)

intheflow

(28,925 posts)
25. "Being gracious" in the face of tyranny is impossible.
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 12:44 PM
Tuesday

And should not be pushed as viable or normal. To put it another way, would you tell a beaten wife that she needs to just quietly accept her abuse, don't be loud, and don't question why her husband beats her? Same thing on a national scale.

MineralMan

(147,569 posts)
12. Well, Biden is busy giving Ukraine the ability
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 10:48 AM
Tuesday

to fire missiles into Russia. There are new Federal judge appointees being confirmed over at the Senate. Leadership is focused on getting as much good stuff done before January 20 as they can.

It's in the news, but you do have to read past the first page to find it.

Response to MineralMan (Reply #12)

MineralMan

(147,569 posts)
18. Just go ahead and blame Democrats for the loss of the election.
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 11:17 AM
Tuesday

That'll help a lot.

Meanwhile, all of my posts calling for a massive GOTV effort sank like rocks on DU. Go figure...

I can't help you understand.

S/V Loner

(9,110 posts)
14. I want to believe that...
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 10:49 AM
Tuesday

they are silent for a reason and investigative work is being done in the background.
Like I said... I want to believe. Do I? Not really.

Genevra

(19 posts)
17. I've been wondering the same thing
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 11:02 AM
Tuesday

Show those of us who fought this battle with you some freakin' leadership!

Great to work on legislative stuff, but there are 17 Dem governors and about 160 elected Democrats. Surely a few of them could show up for us with rally calls and statements on their plans to fight Trump's administration.

Use the major networks (money talks), liberal podcasts, any medium they can buy and talk to us, FFS!

Frankly I think Harris should be the first to show her determination.

Edit: whoa, Way off the number of Dems in Congress. About 260 Dems. Thanks Wiz Imp for the numbers.

SnoopDog

(2,467 posts)
22. I got a million emails from Democrats asking for donations...
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 11:57 AM
Tuesday

But, absolutely no communications from Biden, Harris, Jefferey's, Pelosi, or any Democrat.

Nothing from them on how we proceed or what they are doing to ensure the integrity of the election.

Considering it is the Democratic Party leadership that lost the election for us, they could at least give their plan moving forward.

Scubamatt

(81 posts)
23. Don't necessarily agree
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 12:15 PM
Tuesday

that our leadership lost the race - the disinformation echo chamber was huge. Regardless, I agree 150% that our leadership needs to step up now, more than ever, and start messaging and shaping the debate. That's a key aspect of learning from the Republicans without compromising our principles.

SnoopDog

(2,467 posts)
28. President Clinton signed the Telecommunications Act...
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 12:55 PM
Tuesday

This act allowed monopoly ownership of as many media outlets as an entity wants.

Republicans immediately and continually moved to obtained as many media stations as they could.

The Democratic Party Leadership did nothing. And continue to do nothing.

So yes misinformation runs rampant because Democratic Party Leadership does nothing to fight it.

oldmanlynn

(388 posts)
26. Thats the only message you will get from Dems
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 12:51 PM
Tuesday

I guess there is no bother to communicate to the base about the future and what we should do.

I get the secret strategy and not letting that out but at minimum let us know your meeting and discussing strategies. Get out there and talk and lead.

Sometimes if feels like they are capitulating and not pushing back.

If we are afraid of retribution then we are Done.

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