Uggh. I tried 30 seconds of Morning Joe BS, 12 minutes in and Joe was all kumbaya with "our opponents"

[hlthe2b]

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talking to Rev. Al Sharpton. After yesterday's Joe & Mika total capitulation after their MLA trip, I'm done.

I likewise saw 30 seconds or so of Ari Melber yesterday sane-washing/normalizing everything talking about Gaetz and that moron Fox host up for DOD as though these were expected kinds of nominations. In that annoyingly, cloying voice while talking about their sexual assault "accusations" while all but chastising those who believed them. Same truly annoying voice and affect he used to interview Joseph Goebbels (er, Stephen Miller).

I know NBC is under assault--especially given who TSF has named for head of the FCC, but OMG. The "talent" are going to single-handedly take down this part of both parts of the network. They are acting like Chuck Todd during his worst period when he just could not get enough of MAGAs on his show and reacted as though they defecated gold.

As if I was not fighting depression and demoralization enough--with everything I and my fellow compatriots in my circle have left...

Well, I just can't assist in the sell-out. My $$ will go to The Guardian and a handful of print and online sites. My access to MSNBC/CNN will be by occasional podcasts or TuneIN radio for programs I know have not totally capitulated to the incoming Fascists.

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[Emile]

1. I refuse to watch their show.

If you're gonna watch it, you might as well change the channel to FOX if that's the kind of news you're looking for.

[no_hypocrisy]

2. Did The Rev push back on Joe, or is he too concerned about

future appearances on Morning Joe?

[hlthe2b]

3. I only heard enough to recognize they were both going to default to "religious response" to justify the capitulation.

[no_hypocrisy]

7. Really disappointed in The Rev.

Joe, not so much. Joe's consistent in his quisling pursuit.

[Native]

4. Nicole & Lawrence are it for me. Did anyone see Rachel last night?

is she worth recording with only one night a week?

[ariadne0614]

8. She's worth it. n/t

[Native]

11. thanks, ill start recording her again.

[hlthe2b]

9. I only saw about 20 min last night of her show. She was defaulting to the 'historical' approach to tangentially

address the issue of Gaetz and his unreleased ethics report. The comparison was John Ensign (former Senator Nevada, R) whose affair with a staff member led him to buy off those who tried to hold him accountable. He eventually resigned and confessed, and the ethics report WAS RELEASED regardless of his resignation sometime later.

Where she went with her show after that, I can't say. Like many, I'm not sleeping well so I needed to try for some catch-up sleep.

[Native]

12. thanks, and i know what you mean about sleep!

[Susan Calvin]

31. Yes.

I have been basically severely depressed since the election, when depression is considered not the opposite of happiness but the opposite of vitality. Really feeling there was no point in anything, although I hoped to get over that reasonably soon.

All this by way of introduction to the fact that the bit that I watched of last night's Rachel happened to give me a modicum of hope and cause me to actually take a couple of actions. This was progress for me.

[Scrivener7]

5. Vote with your eyes. These are the quislings. Don't support them. Turn it off.

And shame on Sharpton for participating.

[Intractable]

6. You know it will be a big news day when they start with sports.

The biggest problem with Morning Joe, is that morning CNN manages to be worse.

[Emile]

10. I switched the channel to C-SPAN. Washington Journal starts

at 7 eastern.

[Intractable]

15. Thanks. I'm checking it out now.

Oh my! It's a call-in show. I can't listen to callers.

[La Coliniere]

34. It seems their call-in shows always

attract an over abundance of opinionated idiots. I haven’t listened in many years. Guess things haven’t changed over there.

[Intractable]

37. I think it's all call-in shows, at least those where calls are not prescreened.

I occasionally tune in to Thom Hartmann, Randi Rhodes, and some others. After two or three callers, I just can't take it anymore.

[Native]

13. lol, so true

[dem4decades]

16. Record something else and watch that, the only news I watch now is John Oliver or Jon Stewart.

I've watched all the old Columbo episodes, Murder She Wrote (Columbo is better), now rewatching Perry Mason and recording Leave it to Beaver to watch later. I'm MTGA, making television great again, F CNN, MSNBC, Fox and the rest of the bullshit.

[Intractable]

17. Sometimes, I want live news in the morning. I'll manage.

[dem4decades]

25. I'll watch the local news, mostly for the weather. But they're part of the problem too.

All the news pieces they ran on inflation, blaming Biden and never going deeper on why inflation was a global problem. They helped elect Trump too.

[Intractable]

27. Most local news is run by big media conglomerates. And they clearly prefer to have Republicans in office.

Even MSNBC, with the exception of the evening shows, aims center-right.

I think it's a vague but true statement to say, "Big media gave us Trump."

[livetohike]

20. We're watching Rockford Files, Matlock and

King Fu.

[dem4decades]

26. Awesome, I love Rockford, that's on my list too. Big fan of Rocky, Angel gets a little tough sometimes.

[BumRushDaShow]

30. Thanks to you

I'll have this theme song running in my head the rest of the day!!!

[livetohike]

43. My husband skips through the intro. But I still

have an ear worm. Sorry

[BumRushDaShow]

44. There is a DUer

who has an account name of "rockfordfile" and I chuckle every time I seem them and think about the show.

[BigMin28]

36. You're probably

better informed than some. I quit watching all corporate media a few years ago. As for Joe and Mika, you just knew they would go sniveling back to Mar-lardo.

[eShirl]

14. maybe try Free Speech TV

https://freespeech.org/

Watch Live

The Rick Smith Show
7:00 AM - 8:00 AM EST

Democracy Now!
8:00 AM - 9:00 AM EST

The Stephanie Miller Show
9:00 AM - 12:00 PM EST

The Thom Hartmann Program
12:00 PM - 3:00 PM EST

The Randi Rhodes Show
3:00 PM - 4:00 PM EST

[kwijybo]

28. Randi Rhodes is still around?

I thought she retired with Air America

[La Coliniere]

42. She's on freespeechtv 3-4pm M-F.

I used to listen to her show live on YouTube but I haven’t in awhile. You can also listen to her show the next day without commercials on her podcast. Randi is truly one on the best.

[Dumpy]

18. Kiss the ring of Hitler

These guys are sick.

[Pepsidog]

19. Nothing but Netflix, DU, and occasionally Bluesky for me for the foreseeable future.

[djacq]

21. Stopped watching Morning Joe a few days before the election.

Jon Stewart was 100 percent on-point on election night about pundits,

“I do want to very quickly send a quick message to all the pollsters, the election pollsters: blow me,” Stewart said. “I don’t ever want to hear from you again. Ever. You don’t know shit about shit. I don’t want to hear, ‘We’ll figure it out next year, oh we were within the margin of—’ blow me.”
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/jon-stewart-election-2024-reaction-1236054595/

MSNBC is corporate media and most of the hosts had normalized or have started normalizing Trump. That network's viewership will drop like a meteorite. I partially unplugged from MSNBC but still watch The Reidout, Velshi, and The Weekend. I'm still thinking about returning to Maddow and/or O'Donnell but haven't decided yet. Listen to more of SiriusXM's Progress Channel and Brian Tyler Cohen's podcast.

[SheilaAnn]

22. I've switched over to Chicago PD, have a huge crush on "Hank." n/t

[GreatAuntK]

23. I quit MSNBC and cable

A couple years ago, I went totally streaming, so I have no cable or network news. I watch podcasts, such as The Bulwark, Meidas Network, those naughty ladies of IHIP. I usually stream only one service, for economic reasons, when there is a new Outlander or Avengers or Resident Aliens series etc. Youtube has lots of other content besides politics, such as art, history - lately I've been following Rocky Kanaka's doggie rescue. Best of all, Music - oldies or current, releases, concerts, interviews, docs. I love the choices available and flexibility of this new way of viewing TV.

Some MSNBC clips show up on Youtube, and I will check it out, usually Lawrence, Nicole or Rachel. Dismayed but not surprised that Joe and Mika visited Trump. I don't care to hear about compromise and kumbaya. I turned them off after 5 minutes.

[lark]

24. Lawrence, Rachel and Nicole are still watchable, in small doses for me.

I watched 20 min. of Lawrence last night, most of any host I've seen since slasher day, in which all our hopes and dreams were slashed to install a distopian fascist leader.

[PatSeg]

33. I'd cut back on cable news

after the ageism attacks on Joe and quit entirely after the election. Last night I finally clicked on Rachel and watch for fifteen minutes. That was enough. Too much business as usual for me.

Meanwhile, I can't imagine ever watching Morning Joe again under any circumstances. What on earth were they thinking?

[lark]

35. Morning Schmoe is certainly dead to me.

I didn't watch them at all until they turned on tsf and now I can go back to not watching news in the am. I still read it here, don't have such a visceral reaction to reading as I do hearing and seeing it on tv. Even here though, I'm not reading everything the way I used to. I pick and choose and skip a lot because I just can't take it.

[PatSeg]

38. Same here

I skim through headlines here and in my email, but I can only read so much and still remain somewhat sane.

Meanwhile, I really couldn't handle Joe Scarborough's paternalistic bullying on the Joe even when he was talking reason. I can't imagine ever watching that show again under any circumstances.

[chia]

29. Cut the cord in 2019, and don't miss cable news or local news. In fact, now newscaster voices are grating

to my ears. I don't know if their voices are actually more harsh or if my ears are more sensitive, but I don't have that same reaction when streaming movies and series.

I'd rather read the news without the inane chatter and the commercials anyway, but of course that's just my random opinion.

[Beck23]

32. These folks should learn a lesson from

Martin Niemoller.

He thought he was safe, but he ended up in a concentration camp. He later wrote:

When they came for the Communists
I said nothing because I wasn't a Communist.
When they came for the trade-umionists
I said nothing because I wasn't a trade-unionist.
When they came for the Jews
I said nothing because I wasn't a Jew
When they came for me there was no one left to speak up for me.

[leftyladyfrommo]

39. I can't believe they did this. What were they

thinking?

[Marigold]

40. Bluesky, I'm loving it

I canceled all MSM. MSNBC was hard for me. I was never on Twitter, so a little confused on the whole deal. People were flocking to Bluesky so I decided to check it out. Everyone is on there from the Guardian, Marc Elias, Maya Wiley, Ruth Ben-Giat, Heather Cox Richardson, Mother Jones, the Atlantic, Meidas Touch, the Nation, I could go on and on. I am following 121 accounts so far. I've got news coming out of the wazoo. Other than having the tv on with my morning coffee, I am not missing anything. Just have to shift my habits and change to the new paradigm.

[hlthe2b]

41. I intend to register when I have a few minutes away from work to give it a little bit of thought.

I know the process isn't long, but I'd like to "do it right."

[moondust]

45. Last night Stephanie Ruhle

did a rather extended explanation of her show's coverage of TSF, basically saying they have to cover him and it doesn't mean they like him. Apparently word of the Morning Joe backlash has been circulating.