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BlueWaveNeverEnd

(10,273 posts)
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 03:46 AM Nov 19

65 year old American tourist carves last name into 100 year old Japanese shrine.. perp walk



https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/15/travel/american-tourist-arrested-tokyo-shrine-gate-intl-hnk/index.html

The suspect, Steve Lee Hayes, was arrested Wednesday on suspicion of property damage, a Tokyo Metropolitan Police spokesperson told CNN.

According to public broadcaster NHK, five letters – believed to be the tourist’s family name – were allegedly etched into a gate pillar at Tokyo’s Meiji Shrine.

Police reportedly identified the suspect by reviewing security camera footage and have launched an investigation.

Located adjacent to the city’s sprawling Yoyogi Park, Meiji Shrine first opened in 1920 and was dedicated to Emperor Meiji and Empress Shoken. The complex was destroyed during World War II but rebuilt in the 1950s.


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Japan's Tokyo Metropolitan Police arrested a 65-year-old American man on suspicion of property damage. Security footage at the Meiji Jingu Shrine led authorities to this tourist's hotel room to apprehend him. Police say the suspect admitted to using his fingernails to carve the initials of his family members into a wooden pillar at the over 100-year-old Shinto Shrine. The American suspect could face up to five years in prison or a fine of up to 1 million yen or about $6,500 US dollars.

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65 year old American tourist carves last name into 100 year old Japanese shrine.. perp walk (Original Post) BlueWaveNeverEnd Nov 19 OP
Just spitballing, LakeVermilion Nov 19 #1
agreed. probably traveled the world carving initials into things. entitled jerk!! BlueWaveNeverEnd Nov 19 #2
The Meiji Shrine? Straw Man Nov 19 #3
Dracula exboyfil Nov 19 #4
"most beautiful?" Blue_Tires Nov 19 #19
I vote for the five years in prison Auggie Nov 19 #5
Same here... 2naSalit Nov 19 #14
Why not both? Chellee Nov 19 #15
There is no question in my mind who he voted for. Scrivener7 Nov 19 #6
Too bad they can't extradite him back to Alabama or Louisiana to serve his prison sentence. John Shaft Nov 19 #7
Japanese prisons are strict structure of rehabilitation and punishment Dumpy Nov 19 #12
Just a guess DiverDave Nov 19 #16
Yup. Straw Man Nov 19 #34
No he won't, Japanses prisons are way worse than here obamanut2012 Nov 19 #26
This is why the world can't have anything nice. Hugin Nov 19 #8
In the Navy they taught us we were representing the United States Emile Nov 19 #9
Our company told us gab13by13 Nov 19 #28
"Here's what I think of your precious culture" oasis Nov 19 #10
No prison sentence..... AltairIV Nov 19 #11
Japanese justice is brutal. Swede Nov 19 #13
Yup, they don't even have what rights we do here obamanut2012 Nov 19 #25
Some people should never travel. MineralMan Nov 19 #17
I had never heard of this until recently. yardwork Nov 19 #20
Leaving your mark wherever you go seems to be part of human nature. MineralMan Nov 19 #21
I've seen historical sites and items marked by idiots putting their name on it Elessar Zappa Nov 19 #32
Christ, what an asshole... Blue_Tires Nov 19 #18
My favorite part is when he naturally assumed Blue_Tires Nov 19 #22
Jesus, dude, just do what l do when l visit a new place. Xavier Breath Nov 19 #23
Japanese jails and prisons are very much not great obamanut2012 Nov 19 #24
Problematic American (and other non-Japanese) tourists are getting out of control ChicagoRonin Nov 19 #27
Usually this kind of thing involves teenagers CanonRay Nov 19 #29
Holey Moley dumber than a bag of rocks Beringia Nov 19 #30
Ironic RobinA Nov 19 #31
If he just used his fingernails they SHOULD be able to just steam that out jmowreader Nov 19 #33
Nothing like adding another name in the list of "ugly American," tourists. 🙄 Learn respect, jerk! electric_blue68 Nov 19 #35
Putting the "ugly" in "ugly American." nt City Lights Nov 19 #36

Straw Man

(6,778 posts)
3. The Meiji Shrine?
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 04:15 AM
Nov 19

That's like tagging the Vatican. What an asshole.

But with his fingernails? Who can carve wood with their fingernails?

John Shaft

(802 posts)
7. Too bad they can't extradite him back to Alabama or Louisiana to serve his prison sentence.
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 06:51 AM
Nov 19

if he gets one.

He'll be treated with way too much dignity in a Japanese prison, even for gaijin.

DiverDave

(5,007 posts)
16. Just a guess
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 09:40 AM
Nov 19

He doesn't speak Japanese. As ALL communication inside is in Japanese..
Turns out, you are allowed to watch T.V., read and speak Japanese, only. Even to fellow inmates.
Immersion language training. Lol.
It doesn't sound like a country club prison.
I imagine he only speaks very loud English when in a foreign country.
Poor guy.
Expect a go fund me and stories of how he is a great guy.
No sympathy from me.

Straw Man

(6,778 posts)
34. Yup.
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 03:03 PM
Nov 19
He doesn't speak Japanese. As ALL communication inside is in Japanese.

I lived in Japan for most of the 90s. I had an American friend whose former girlfriend, also American, was incarcerated there for a drug offense which would have been relatively minor here. When he visited her, he had to provide an interpreter, at his own expense, who would translate their conversation into Japanese so they could be transcribed for the prison records.

Hugin

(34,652 posts)
8. This is why the world can't have anything nice.
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 06:57 AM
Nov 19

Perhaps the new Trumpiban Embassy will get him clemency.

Some say the going rate will be $1 M or the DJT crypto equivalent. Whichever is more.

Emile

(30,076 posts)
9. In the Navy they taught us we were representing the United States
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 07:04 AM
Nov 19

overseas and we are expected to be on our best behavior. Apparently this guy never got that message.

gab13by13

(25,290 posts)
28. Our company told us
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 10:23 AM
Nov 19

when we went out of the country we were representing our company.

I was working in Santiago Chile during the Iraq war and the Chileans were extremely opposed to that war.

I made sure I told everyone that I did not vote for Bush.

oasis

(51,721 posts)
10. "Here's what I think of your precious culture"
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 07:09 AM
Nov 19

Read Hayes’ thought bubble as he defiled the artifact.
Enjoy prison Trumpbot.

MineralMan

(147,660 posts)
17. Some people should never travel.
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 09:47 AM
Nov 19

That guy, probably a Trump supporter, is one such person. I have seen people's names scratched into just about anything wherever I've traveled. "I" was here, is all they really say. The whole point of traveling, to me, is to see what "They" are doing and how "They" live. "I" learn from that. There is no need to mark the fact that "I" was there. It's irrelevant.

My grandmother said to me, when I was about five years old, "Fools' names and fools' faces always appear in public places." When I asked her what she meant, she carefully explained it to me, teaching me a nice language lesson along with something to consider as I went along my way.

Elessar Zappa

(15,992 posts)
32. I've seen historical sites and items marked by idiots putting their name on it
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 12:07 PM
Nov 19

since I’ve been alive. It’s nothing new.

jmowreader

(51,511 posts)
33. If he just used his fingernails they SHOULD be able to just steam that out
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 01:02 PM
Nov 19

Steam swells wood, so a little bit of it will raise the grain enough to get rid of his vandalism.

I think a year or two in a Japanese prison - one of the most vicious prison systems out there - will do this guy a whole lot of good.

electric_blue68

(18,245 posts)
35. Nothing like adding another name in the list of "ugly American," tourists. 🙄 Learn respect, jerk!
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 04:10 PM
Nov 19

Luckily some, if not most American tourists know how to behave in other countries.

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