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tritsofme

(18,609 posts)
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 02:38 PM Nov 18

In 2014, Scalia with Roberts, Thomas, and Alito argued that Trump's desired recess appointments are unconstitutional

The decision in NLRB v. Noel Canning, was unanimous in striking down certain recess appointments made by President Obama as unconstitutional.

Scalia wrote a concurrence, joined by the other conservatives (minus Kennedy), that argued the decision did not go far enough:

"that recess appointments will remain a powerful weapon in the President's arsenal. ... That is unfortunate, because the recess appointment power is an anachronism." Scalia argues that the recess appointment power only applies to vacancies that arise while the Senate is in recess.

Under this reasoning, even if Trump succeeded in forcing both chambers into recess, if the vacancies did not occur during that recess, any appointments would be unconstitutional.

It will be interesting to see if they can twist themselves out of this argument for Trump. But such a case would definitely be barreling toward the Supreme Court.

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In 2014, Scalia with Roberts, Thomas, and Alito argued that Trump's desired recess appointments are unconstitutional (Original Post) tritsofme Nov 18 OP
That was then. Whatever lame54 Nov 18 #1
Different court now. We shall find out soon. riversedge Nov 18 #4
More-importantly MurrayDelph Nov 18 #9
Most likely they will do what Trump and their billionaire minders tell them to do. Irish_Dem Nov 18 #2
very interesting. NJCher Nov 18 #3
The plaintiffs would definitely be singing this tune to the conservative justices. tritsofme Nov 18 #10
you mean NJCher Nov 18 #11
Yes. tritsofme Nov 19 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author tritsofme Nov 19 #14
So the senate recesses before Jan 20. al_liberal Nov 18 #5
Not really. Noel Canning stipulates a recess must last at least 10 days. tritsofme Nov 18 #6
Sorry, but you make it sound like precedent is a thing. Not with this Court. surfered Nov 18 #7
Thank you for the timely and important history. Kid Berwyn Nov 18 #8
Simple solution, pro forma sessions Dumpy Nov 19 #12

Response to tritsofme (Reply #13)

al_liberal

(431 posts)
5. So the senate recesses before Jan 20.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 03:54 PM
Nov 18

And instantly all of those vacancies happen during a recess. Problem solved.

tritsofme

(18,609 posts)
6. Not really. Noel Canning stipulates a recess must last at least 10 days.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 04:01 PM
Nov 18

Also, Cabinet officials don’t automatically lose their jobs on 1/20, they must resign or be fired.

Kid Berwyn

(18,085 posts)
8. Thank you for the timely and important history.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 05:36 PM
Nov 18

I, for one, have the utmost faith in Justice John Roberts and his five co-conspirators in treason on SCROTUS will do whatever is necessary to undo precedent in order to advance the cause of concentrated wealth in service of White power.

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