Does anyone know when the N.C. audit results will be posted?

[Think. Again.]

We know that we only have until December 11 to complete any recount prompted by the post-election audits, but the NC State Board of Election website has still not published any audit results for this election.

Does anyone have any idea if the audits are complete yet and when they will be available to be reviewed and acted upon?

https://www.ncsbe.gov/about-elections/election-security/post-election-procedures-and-audits#audits

[dweller]

1. Next week

https://www.ncsbe.gov/news/press-releases/2024/11/15/several-counties-certify-election-early-next-week



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[Think. Again.]

2. They're cutting it close...

The audit result will have to be reviewed quickly once they're published...

Possible recounts

The delay in some counties’ canvasses does not affect the timing for any recount requests.

For statewide contests, the vote difference must be 10,000 votes or fewer for a second-place candidate to demand a recount. For non-statewide contests, the difference between the candidates must be 1 percent or less of the total votes cast in the contest after county canvass. In contests under the jurisdiction of the State Board of Elections (including General Assembly seats in which the district lies in more than one county), the recount demand must be in writing and received by the State Board of Elections no later than noon on Tuesday, November 19.

For contests under the jurisdiction of county boards of elections, a demand for recount must be made in writing to the county board of elections by 5 p.m. Monday, November 18.

Under state law, if results change after the recount request deadline and a candidate becomes eligible to demand a recount, they would have 48 hours to request one.

Source: https://www.ncsbe.gov/news/press-releases/2024/11/15/several-counties-certify-election-early-next-week

And there is no mention of deadlines for recount requests made on the basis of issues other than close races.

[dweller]

3. 24 votes separate

Riggs D and Griffen R for NC SUPREME COURT ASSOCIATE JUSTICE SEAT 06

Pretty sure it’s a recount


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[Think. Again.]

4. Good, but close races aren't the only allowable cause for recount requests.

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Edit to add:

I stand corrected (and a little shocked)

In North Carolina, candidates are not allowed to request a recount for any reason other than "close margins".

https://verifiedvoting.org/recountlaw/north-carolina/

So if there was any physical interefence with machines, or ballots, or anything that might be done to "ruin" the integrity of the results, we're out of luck in N.C.

[onenote]

9. Where in North Carolina law is there a provision allowing recounts for other than specified vote differentials.

I've looked and if its there, I can't find it.
Can you direct me to a cite that supports your statement that there are other allowable causes for a recount request?

[Think. Again.]

12. You're right!

North Carolina only allows candidates to request a recount based on close margins!

Any other reason, such as machine or ballot manipulation is not allowed!

Candidate-Initiated Options
Close vote margin required

“In a ballot item within the jurisdiction of the State Board of Elections, a candidate shall have the right to demand a recount of the votes if the difference between the votes for that candidate and the votes for a prevailing candidate are not more than the following: (1) For a nonstatewide ballot item, one percent (1%) of the total votes cast in the ballot item, or in the case of a multiseat ballot item, one percent (1%) of the votes cast for those two candidates. (2) For a statewide ballot item, one-half of one percent (0.5%) of the votes cast in the ballot item, or 10,000 votes, whichever is less.” N.C. Gen. Stat. § 163-182.7(c).
“In a ballot item within the jurisdiction of the county board of elections, a candidate shall have the right to demand a recount of the votes if the difference between the votes for that candidate and the votes for a prevailing candidate is not more than one percent (1%) of the total votes cast in the ballot item, or in the case of a multiseat ballot item not more than one percent (1%) of the votes cast for those two candidates.” N.C. Gen. Stat. § 163-182.7(b).

Timing: For recounts under the jurisdiction of a county board, requests must be received by 5 P.M. on the first business day after the canvass. For recounts under the jurisdiction of the state board, requests must be received by noon the second business day after the canvass. N.C. Gen. Stat. § 163-182.7(b) & (c).

Source: https://verifiedvoting.org/recountlaw/north-carolina/

[MineralMan]

5. When they are completed, NC will publish its findings.

Until then, there are no findings. I'm not sure what it is you're looking for.

[Think. Again.]

6. Yes, they will actually be publishing the audits results after the recount request deadline...

But....

The audit result will have to be reviewed quickly once they're published...

Possible recounts

The delay in some counties’ canvasses does not affect the timing for any recount requests.

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For contests under the jurisdiction of county boards of elections, a demand for recount must be made in writing to the county board of elections by 5 p.m. Monday, November 18.

Under state law, if results change after the recount request deadline and a candidate becomes eligible to demand a recount, they would have 48 hours to request one.

Source: https://www.ncsbe.gov/news/press-releases/2024/11/15/several-counties-certify-election-early-next-week

And there is no mention of deadlines for recount requests made on the basis of issues other than close races.

[MineralMan]

8. Yes, but they cannot be acted on until the results exist.

As for details about deadlines, I do not live in North Carolina, and I don't know its election laws. You are interested in them, so why don't you go look them up and inform us about that. Personally, I doubt that there will be any significant changes in election results in North Carolina, a state that can easily go either way in any election.

I cannot make any assumptions, because I do not follow NC elections closely. I don't have time to do that.

[Think. Again.]

11. I have looked them up and posted them in a post above if you're interested.

[onenote]

7. All but nine counties have completed their canvass. Those counties will finish on Monday.

Assuming the threshold for a recount in the presidential election is a difference of 10,000 votes or fewer between Trump and Harris, there will be no basis for a recount. Even if recounts could be called on a county by county basis, there appear to be only two the counties in the state, based on the final, canvassed results, where the vote differential between Harris and Trump was less than the recount threshold of 1% -- and both were counties where Harris won.
https://er.ncsbe.gov/result_map.html?election_dt=11/05/2024&county_id=0

[Think. Again.]

10. Yes, since the results will come in AFTER the deadline to request a recount...

...candidates will be given 24 hours after the results are finalized to make their recount request, but there is no guidance on what the candidates can do to request a recount after the deadline based on something other than the audit results of a close election.

Hopefully that missing piece of info will also allow for the 24 hour extension.