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Nevilledog

(53,240 posts)
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 01:22 PM Sunday

Biden approves Ukraine's use of long-range U.S. weapons inside Russia, reversing policy

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/11/17/ukraine-russia-north-korea-atacms/

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President Joe Biden has authorized Ukraine to use a powerful American long-range weapon for limited strikes inside Russia in response to North Korea’s deployment of thousands of troops to aid Moscow’s war effort, according to two senior U.S. officials.
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The easing of restrictions on allowing Kyiv to use the Army Tactical Missile System, or ATACMS, to hit targets inside Russia is a significant reversal in U.S. policy and comes as some 10,000 elite North Korean troops have been sent to Kursk, a region of Russia along Ukraine’s northern border, to help Moscow’s forces retake territory gained by Ukraine.

The Biden administration fears that more North Korean special forces units could follow in support of this effort.

The move precedes by two months the return to the White House of President-elect Donald Trump, who has signaled he intends to end the war between Russia and Ukraine, though without offering details of how he will do so.

One U.S. official said the move is in part aimed at deterring Pyongyang from sending more troops. North Korean leader Kim Jong Un must understand that the initial deployment has been a “costly” mistake, said the official, who like others interviewed for this story spoke on condition of anonymity because of the matter’s sensitivity.

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Biden approves Ukraine's use of long-range U.S. weapons inside Russia, reversing policy (Original Post) Nevilledog Sunday OP
wayyyyyyyy past time. bs resstrictions should never have been there.. niyad Sunday #1
Thank God. About damn time. Irish_Dem Sunday #2
I can see ruzzian military stockpiles going "POOF!!...nt mitch96 Sunday #5
Good trump can try to handle the blowback from that Fullduplexxx Sunday #3
So does that stop the JackAss from stopping our munitions and money for Ukraine Maraya1969 Sunday #4
He can try, but DOD is busting ass to get another $17 billion authorized out the door ASAP hatrack Sunday #7
Good!! Time to FUCK SHIT UP!! hatrack Sunday #6
Zelensky is being very defiant and brave. Irish_Dem Sunday #8
he's got immunity. he shd take putin out. mopinko Sunday #9
Hmm... bdamomma Sunday #15
Whoa - wouldn't that be something! liberalla Sunday #17
About damn time rollin74 Sunday #10
Also time The Madcap Sunday #22
Good news MacDo Sunday #11
Also time to The Madcap Sunday #12
Especially his summer palace.... Evolve Dammit Sunday #13
* So, is the equipment in Ukraine right now? Is the Ukrainian army trained to use them? liberalla Sunday #14
OK, the ATACMS are already in Ukraine since earlier this year (only for use within Ukraine / Crimea) liberalla Sunday #16
I wish he had done this two years ago. Crunchy Frog Sunday #18
Good... Moscow needs some payback for election meddling Blue_Tires Sunday #19
Hit Moscow! roamer65 Sunday #20
Was just thinking that. The Madcap Sunday #21
ATACMS won't reach that far Emrys Sunday #24
good news. (so long as eloon can't turn them off like apparently he can do to his cars) nt orleans Sunday #23

Irish_Dem

(57,435 posts)
2. Thank God. About damn time.
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 01:26 PM
Sunday

Time for the US to mean business and help Ukraine actually win the war.
Not just drag it out.

Maraya1969

(22,997 posts)
4. So does that stop the JackAss from stopping our munitions and money for Ukraine
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 01:54 PM
Sunday

Or can he go in and just reverse everything Biden has done?

hatrack

(60,921 posts)
7. He can try, but DOD is busting ass to get another $17 billion authorized out the door ASAP
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 01:57 PM
Sunday

And they've got about two months in which to do it.

Irish_Dem

(57,435 posts)
8. Zelensky is being very defiant and brave.
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 02:05 PM
Sunday

He does all this knowing Trump will hand him and his country over to Putin.

mopinko

(71,802 posts)
9. he's got immunity. he shd take putin out.
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 02:06 PM
Sunday

lotta ppl wishing joe wd use those powers in lots of ways. but it seems to me sending the cia to take out putin might actually help.

The Madcap

(374 posts)
12. Also time to
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 02:10 PM
Sunday

Start flying drones very low and fast. Would make them harder to shoot down without causing collateral damage. And missiles to all Putin properties.

liberalla

(10,018 posts)
14. * So, is the equipment in Ukraine right now? Is the Ukrainian army trained to use them?
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 03:50 PM
Sunday

*** So, is the equipment in Ukraine right now? Is the Ukrainian army trained to use them?

God I hope so! No more delays!

Thank you for the no paywall link! I have to read the rest of the article... Hopefully the answers are in there.

liberalla

(10,018 posts)
16. OK, the ATACMS are already in Ukraine since earlier this year (only for use within Ukraine / Crimea)
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 04:11 PM
Sunday

(for use against russian forces on the Crimean peninsula)

This is now approval to point them into Russia.

The Madcap

(374 posts)
21. Was just thinking that.
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 05:25 PM
Sunday

So if T**** lets it continue, Putie gets mad at him and maybe lets some secrets out about him, but if he stops it, then he's on Putie's side, which I would bet many in his base (especially the vets) might not appreciate. It's going to be interesting. Maybe it's Joe's "poison pill" for T****.

Emrys

(7,941 posts)
24. ATACMS won't reach that far
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 06:13 PM
Sunday

Nor will the British and French SCALP/Storm Shadow. But Ukraine has drones of it own that regularly attack Moscow and other targets deep in Russian territory - over 1,000 miles in some cases.

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