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Ocelot II

(120,835 posts)
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 11:06 AM Sunday

Trump's GOP isn't a monolith; will the coalition will come unglued?

Right now among the general public it's just a personality cult, with its non-politician members blindly adoring and worshipping Dear Leader, uninterested in any policy issues except getting rid of immigrants and trans people. But the politicians and power brokers aren't all on the same page ideologically. First, there are the Christian nationalists, allied with the white supremacists. These are the most totalitarian-inclined. They want to regulate everything about everybody, in particular where religion and reproduction are concerned. But there are also the libertarian types who don't want any regulation of anything, especially business or anything affecting business. The libertarians are aligned with the tech bros who want the government to support any technology that makes them rich without restraining them in any way. And Trump himself isn't interested in anything but the grift, fluffing his ego and revenge. He'll go along with the Christofascists or the libertarians, no matter how inconsistent their ideologies and their goals if doing so helps satisfy his need for those three things.

So: Will the tech bros and Wall Street restrain the Christofascists and white supremacists, or vice-versa? The investment banker types must know that deporting huge numbers of immigrants to satisfy Stephen Miller's Third Reich wet dream will cause inflation and recession, and they don't want to lose money. Trump won't care because he gets his big bucks from blatant grifting and probably by laundering Russian money through dodgy real estate deals. The white supremacists care more about getting rid of the brown people than they do about the stock market. Which of these factions will most effectively buy off or intimidate enough GOP congresspeople to prevail?

It could get interesting, in a really sucky way.

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Trump's GOP isn't a monolith; will the coalition will come unglued? (Original Post) Ocelot II Sunday OP
Except, we have been there before when he had less of a support even among the Rs question everything Sunday #1
maybe. they'll start turning on each other. mopinko Sunday #2
What coalition? littlemissmartypants Sunday #3
Behind the Potemkin village of the MSM... Hugin Sunday #4

question everything

(48,799 posts)
1. Except, we have been there before when he had less of a support even among the Rs
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 11:30 AM
Sunday

Will the ones who disagree with him dare do this publicly?

littlemissmartypants

(25,483 posts)
3. What coalition?
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 01:33 PM
Sunday

There isn't any coalition.

There was a loosely bound, extremely varied group of people who, as individuals, voted selfishly for individual needs after being lied to repeatedly.

Already, some of them are expressing buyer's remorse.

It's just a matter of time before the factions that overlap discover that the psychopath that they voted for couldn't care less about their vote and what faction defines them.

Coalitions build trust and consensus and work together for common goals. None of these things matter to King MAGA.

Every person who voted for him is going to suffer in one way or another, and all people, plants, animals, the planet, and even parts of outer space will join in that suffering.

It doesn't matter whether we voted against King MAGA, couldn't be bothered to care to vote at all, or aren't eligible to vote because of age or status.

He's got his 'get out of jail free' card for the time being. Now, he's going through the motions of picking partners in crime and giving lip service to those around him who have fallen under his spell.

He'll be doing the same thing a psychopath always does, which is destroyed every single thing and person in his path. Eventually, more and more people who are not entirely delusional and not complete idiots will start to jump ship.

Because everyone wants something. As soon as the realization sets in that no one's really going to get what they want, that coalition illusion will self-destruct. Unfortunately, there's going to be a lot of collateral damage.

President Psychopath may be interested in "the grift," but that's just a side hustle. What he's really all about is complete and pervasive chaotic destruction.

There is no coalition.

There's only a bag of brainwashed toys. President Psychopaths playthings soon to get nothing but smashed and trashed while he moves on to destroy the next shiny object in his path.

Hugin

(34,577 posts)
4. Behind the Potemkin village of the MSM...
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 01:42 PM
Sunday

The real support and enthusiasm for what Trump is bringing is a mile wide and less than an inch deep. In spite of the blaring and pompous posturing, I am sure of it. In fact, the grandiosity of the pageantry confirms it in my eyes. They doth posture too much.

It will collapse.

What emerges from the chaos it brings is what concerns me the most.

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