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Septua

(2,562 posts)
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 12:23 AM Saturday

Dems took a butter knife to a gunfight, time after time after time.

I prefer civility to barbarism but when you deal with the ruthlessness of Donald Trump and MAGA, you can't be civil and win. You got to get a bigger gun and more guns than they got or else you lose the fight. Trump and MAGA don't respect civility and exploit it as a weakness.

I've listened to the civil discussions all day long and every day since the election but at the end of each day, we're still at square one. Trump won, Harris lost and what are we going to do about it.

I would suggest finding some people with the credentials, expertise and willingness to devise a plan that will work...implement it and wreck Trump's plans before he completes the first 100 days.

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elleng

(136,043 posts)
1. Something like that, in particular, President BIden does not like, maybe even HATES 'bragging,'
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 12:36 AM
Saturday

so it's studiously avoided.

'wreck Trump's plans before he completes the first 100 days' PLEASE! I am SO with you!!!

Septua

(2,562 posts)
2. Biden is a decent man and successful President
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 12:48 AM
Saturday

But I'm guessing he never had to deal with a sociopath before Trump and couldn't bring himself to get in the mud with Trump.

Harris was willing to get in the mud but Trump avoided her and she was also tiptoeing around issues beyond her control.

And of course, she is a 'she' with the wrong skin color to boot.

My wiser-than-me Son summed it up simply as "No decent Dem candidate could have beat Trump."

elleng

(136,043 posts)
3. Your son may be right, I'm not certain.
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 12:54 AM
Saturday

I did suspect, from early on, however, that Kamala could or would not be able to win, due to race and gender combo. HORRIBLE to feel that way.

Septua

(2,562 posts)
4. I had the same gender/race concern but...
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 01:19 AM
Saturday

..the enthusiasm that followed her day to day gave me optimism she could win. I also thought more people would vote for democracy than deportation.

SoFlaBro

(3,348 posts)
5. Biden reminds me of TLJ in 'No Country for Old Men'. Good cop, but hasn't fucking seen this level of evil shit before.
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 01:59 AM
Saturday

Skittles

(159,247 posts)
6. it's not that simple
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 02:11 AM
Saturday

Dems are treated like women and POC, they essentially CANNOT GET ANGRY - they'd be described as AGGRESSIVE and ARROGANT...UPPITY even..........repukes are treated like white men, there simply are NO STANDARDS set for them.

Ponietz

(3,299 posts)
7. Schlump should have been toast in 2021
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 02:22 AM
Saturday

Leaving Wray as FBI Director was a monumental mistake. Wray was Schlump’s hand-picked successor to Comey.
Appointing Garland as AG was a monumental mistake.
They both played patty cakes when Lady Liberty screamed for justice.
Biden believed a message of unity would win MAGA over.
He was wrong and bowed out too late for a meaningful Democratic primary.
God bless Joe Biden but he miscalculated.

GreenWave

(9,167 posts)
8. IQ 45-47 -2 was allowed to be the biggest crybaby for 4 years.
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 04:56 AM
Saturday

(On edit: it should say IQ 45-47 = -2 in title)

Gore was laughed at for challenging the results.

I suspect that Harris didn't really improve over Biden who was told to quit for he was losing the swing states. And yet?

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