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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(115,270 posts)
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 08:53 PM Friday

Vivek Ramaswamy wants to start DOGE cuts by eliminating funding for unauthorized programs - including veteran healthcare

Vivek Ramaswamy, who was picked to lead the newly-created Department of Government Efficiency, proposed defunding federal programs that no longer have congressional authorization - which includes money for veterans’ health care, NASA and early education.

The new office, nicknamed DOGE after co-leader Elon Musk’s favorite meme, will operate “outside of government” and will aim to “cut wasteful expenditures and restructure Federal Agencies.” Two days after being nominated, Ramaswamy suggested deep cuts to federal funding, starting with a list of expired authorizations of appropriations.

Some congressional funding was approved with a set time before authorization expired. However, they continue to receive funding. A recent report by the Congressional Budget Office found more than 1,200 programs at more than $516 billion a year. When an authorization expires, Congress can extend the program through new legislation or by providing new appropriations, according to CBO.

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Social media users were quick to point out some of the programs that received funding despite lacking current Congressional authorization. One is the Veterans’ Health Care Eligibility Reform Act of 1996, which helps provide funding for veterans’ medical care. The authorization expired in 1998, but still receives about $120 billion in funding.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/vivek-ramaswamy-wants-start-doge-223626905.html

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Vivek Ramaswamy wants to start DOGE cuts by eliminating funding for unauthorized programs - including veteran healthcare (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Friday OP
That'll Go Over Well At the VFW Deep State Witch Friday #1
Oh well oasis Friday #4
They're actually discouraging people from serving. onecaliberal Friday #22
How can an entity claiming to be a "department" but that was created out of whole cloth Ocelot II Friday #2
It is how a fascist govt works. Family, friends, pals of the dictator run the govt. Irish_Dem Friday #6
It cant angrychair Friday #8
Thank you for saying this. Texasgal Friday #14
But probably won't change the view of my MAGA vet son in law chicoescuela Friday #3
Even if Trump tries to kill them, they will still defend him. Irish_Dem Friday #7
We might find out chicoescuela Friday #9
Yes sadly we will have an opportunity for field research right in front of our eyes. Irish_Dem Friday #10
His wife, our daughter, works as a counselor at a public middle school and chicoescuela Friday #11
Soon she will be given instructions on what she can say or not say to students. Irish_Dem Friday #12
And their oldest child is gay chicoescuela Friday #15
For the love of God. Irish_Dem Friday #16
If you listen to Maddow's Podcast: "Ultra," Season Two, LakeVermilion Saturday #30
How does an entity outside of government cut government spending? Does the House have any role in this? Jit423 Friday #5
This "department" is going to be a gold mine of layup questions for the lazy RockRaven Friday #13
Some Vet will take him and muskox out ....... Trueblue1968 Friday #17
Merrick Garland has spent vast amounts of DoD time and money defending "him" from Iran's Revolutionary Guard usonian Friday #18
The world should be so lucky misanthrope Saturday #31
Hey, GOP. Take your new, unaccountable Department of Unwanted, Unnecessary Austerity and shove it up your fascist ass. Karasu Friday #19
Please see Steve Spoonamore's letter to warn today Beck23 Friday #20
Got a link to what you're talking about? nt SunSeeker Friday #23
Links usonian Friday #24
Yeah, go ahead LA Blue Bengal Friday #21
Many people are asking: Does this Vivek Ganapathy Ramaswamy have a family and a fixed abode with a street address? dalton99a Friday #25
What are you suggesting? at140 Friday #28
Message auto-removed Name removed Saturday #33
Not surprising but still infuriating Docreed2003 Friday #26
Musk wants to cut some funding for NASA? No conflict of interest there. Yeah, Ramaswamy was the one quoted but Solly Mack Friday #27
Trump will tell the tale of the senior generals and admirals, with tears in their eyes, saying "Sir, ... keithbvadu2 Saturday #29
Why in the hell isn't congress doing it's job soandso Saturday #32

Deep State Witch

(11,251 posts)
1. That'll Go Over Well At the VFW
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 08:55 PM
Friday

And American Legion. Especially for those old dudes who wouldn't vote for a woman for President.

Ocelot II

(120,830 posts)
2. How can an entity claiming to be a "department" but that was created out of whole cloth
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 08:56 PM
Friday

and without government authorization operate outside of government to do fuck-all?

angrychair

(9,734 posts)
8. It cant
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 09:08 PM
Friday

They are only listed as "advisors". Even then the Executive has no control over the purse. They can't cut funding because they don't control it.
This advisory committee will be drowning in lawsuits from the moment it's officially formed.

Plus it appears that Musk is already starting to wear out his welcome. Even money it either never actually happens or it's just some hollow effort to keep those two busy and out of the way.

Texasgal

(17,154 posts)
14. Thank you for saying this.
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 09:30 PM
Friday

The VA runs on a completely different budget in an entirely different area of government funding. It would be extremely difficult to dismantle.

chicoescuela

(1,568 posts)
11. His wife, our daughter, works as a counselor at a public middle school and
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 09:17 PM
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is a breast cancer survivor. But tsf is their guy. I still don’t understand

Irish_Dem

(57,411 posts)
12. Soon she will be given instructions on what she can say or not say to students.
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 09:21 PM
Friday

And her job will be about "Christian values and patriotism."
Or counselors will be fired altogether.

She may lose her insurance.

She may still hang on to Dear Leader.

So sad, I am sorry.

LakeVermilion

(1,194 posts)
30. If you listen to Maddow's Podcast: "Ultra," Season Two,
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 01:08 AM
Saturday

you’ll begin to understand.

Odds are, they are Nazi’s. And it’s not going away.

Jit423

(276 posts)
5. How does an entity outside of government cut government spending? Does the House have any role in this?
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 09:00 PM
Friday

Is there any other agency outside of government that can cut government spending. They are making it sound like this new outside organization will have real authority to actually cut either authorized or appropriated government funding. WTF?

RockRaven

(16,269 posts)
13. This "department" is going to be a gold mine of layup questions for the lazy
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 09:29 PM
Friday

DC media to ask Congressional GrOPers every day to fill their air time. "Do you support this? Do you support that? Blah, blah, blah."

usonian

(13,785 posts)
18. Merrick Garland has spent vast amounts of DoD time and money defending "him" from Iran's Revolutionary Guard
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 10:48 PM
Friday

and protecting billionaires from bitcoin theft, but that's another matter.

Karasu

(93 posts)
19. Hey, GOP. Take your new, unaccountable Department of Unwanted, Unnecessary Austerity and shove it up your fascist ass.
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 10:51 PM
Friday

"Small government." Right.

Beck23

(195 posts)
20. Please see Steve Spoonamore's letter to warn today
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 10:56 PM
Friday

Spoonamore goes way back when it comes to analyzing election results. He is a professional cyber security expert. He is seeing anomalies in the election results in several swing states and is recommending a recount in these states.

LA Blue Bengal

(24 posts)
21. Yeah, go ahead
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 10:57 PM
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and cut veterans’ health care funding and see how that goes. I have a feeling tar and feathers would make a big comeback

dalton99a

(84,257 posts)
25. Many people are asking: Does this Vivek Ganapathy Ramaswamy have a family and a fixed abode with a street address?
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 11:35 PM
Friday

or does he move around like Elon Musk

Response to dalton99a (Reply #25)

Docreed2003

(17,802 posts)
26. Not surprising but still infuriating
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 11:39 PM
Friday

A big fuck you to Vivek and his friends. Their types rah rah the troops when it's convenient but gleefully shit on us when it comes time to pay benefits for our service.

Solly Mack

(92,777 posts)
27. Musk wants to cut some funding for NASA? No conflict of interest there. Yeah, Ramaswamy was the one quoted but
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 11:53 PM
Friday

let's get real.

I'll be spreading this info around the army post here.

keithbvadu2

(40,100 posts)
29. Trump will tell the tale of the senior generals and admirals, with tears in their eyes, saying "Sir, ...
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 12:11 AM
Saturday

Trump will tell the tale of the senior generals and admirals, with tears in their eyes, saying "Sir, we appreciate you eliminating the weaklings and the woke in our ranks." (Can't forget the "Sir".)

And reducing the wasteful spending on those suckers and losers who sacrificed for our country.

Senior generals and admirals who don't have names.

soandso

(1,167 posts)
32. Why in the hell isn't congress doing it's job
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 02:06 AM
Saturday

and appropriating funding for so many programs? This is their constitutionally mandated job! That's not acceptable and needs to be fixed. It reminds me going to war without declaring it which is also a huge violation.

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