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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAre there compelling arguments that Gabbard is a Russian plant?
I had heard this rumor and now saw a video on CNN that, to me, sees to claim that even some Russians thought she might be a Russian agent due to her stance on Ukraine.
But I feel like there are deeper levels of suspicion. Is there any site that puts forward this accusation in a rational way?
Jit423
(296 posts)Shes a spy, Gaetz is a pedophile, Bobby is a lunatic and Seth is a white supremacist. Just Say it. In this case say the truth.
BOSSHOG
(39,854 posts)I think there is compelling evidence that Gaetz is taking the spotlight off Gabbard just as trump wants. Throw a bunch of trash out on the highway and chances are not all of it will be picked up.
Walleye
(35,672 posts)Seeking Serenity
(2,977 posts)Seriously, people. (smh)
Walleye
(35,672 posts)We seem to be getting some sharp elbows DU
Seeking Serenity
(2,977 posts)(That is, I'm not going to try to justify it by the backdoor by saying, "But you should see what others have said." )
Forgive me?
CentralMass
(15,539 posts)MaryMagdaline
(7,880 posts)Hillary called her out years ago
Seeking Serenity
(2,977 posts)cadoman
(891 posts)It's beyond dispute that she has been suckered by the Russian narratives about the referenda (which were election fraud) and NATO expansion (which has never happened). So in the sense that she believes and can be relied on to re-state the pro-Russia side of an argument, she is a plant for them.
Now if she's a plant in terms of taking money or sharing intelligence with Russia, we have some very big issues because IIRC she is--or very recently was--active duty military. However, I do NOT believe this was the case because Biden is CiC and would not allow that on his watch.
Now, perhaps you could craft a spy vs. spy scenario around that, but if we just look at the direct facts she's more of a "Russian stooge" than a "Russian plant" IMO.
W_HAMILTON
(8,493 posts)...and Gabbard took serious offense.
Gabbard outed herself.
Wiz Imp
(1,821 posts)Much has been made of Hillary Clinton's implication that Tulsi Gabbard is someone Russia has "their eye on." While Gabbard has responded with claims that she is the subject of a coordinated smear campaign by Clinton, she has steadfastly refused to renounce any Russian support she may be receiving. As somebody who worked against Russian intelligence, I agree with Clinton's assessmentGabbard's campaign and messaging are at risk of being weaponized to interfere with and manipulate our election.
The allegation that Gabbard may be benefiting from Russian support is disturbing for many reasons. Democracy demands inclusion and debate of all ideas, whether or not they fall within the mainstream of a political partyand this extends to Gabbard as well. Her claims of a smear or McCarthy-style campaign to silence her have a level of legitimacy. However, while we must ensure that all the presidential candidates are free to speak and present their ideas, whether or not they are considered controversial, these messages must be free from foreign amplification and manipulation. Therein lies my chief concern: that Moscow will use its skillful propaganda machine to prop up Gabbard and use her as a tool to delegitimize the democratic process.
In order to understand the Russians' goal, we must understand how they think. My understanding of Russian logic comes from the three years I worked undercover for the FBI, as well as from interactions I had with both the Russians and with FBI counterintelligence in the 20-year relationship that began after a Soviet intelligence officer walked into my parents' NYC office. That cumulative experience watching and dealing with Russia for decades brings me to this conclusion: Russian ideology seeks to harm the United States, and they will support anyone who can help them achieve that goal. This is not about pushing ideas that are pro-Russia that is too small for them. They want to see a retreat of American influence. What better way to accomplish that than to attack our democracy by casting doubt on the legitimacy of our elections.
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https://www.newsweek.com/tulsi-gabbard-being-used-russians-former-us-double-agent-evidence-clear-opinion-1466750
DJ Synikus Makisimus
(678 posts)Just saying.
Skittles
(159,374 posts)do you not get it? TRUMP is a fucking stooge for Russia too and HE WAS VOTED TO BE PRESIDENT AGAIN
NOTHING WILL BE DONE ABOUT IT
Takket
(22,521 posts)there is no DOJ anymore. no one is going to investigate this. this "oh look! here it is! something incriminating!" Means NOTHING........ NOTHING. I was naive enough to believe that it mattered for 8 years but drumpf has now beaten that out of me.
Gabbard could be caught handing a nuke to Putin in broad daylight and this DOJ will prosecute the journalists that report it